Star Wars 8 shit talk

Yeah my stepmom helpfully incorrectly spoilered the movie for me by saying "the main character dies" and that b/w the divided reception ("A CONTROVERSIAL NEW DIRECTION IN STAR WARS FILMA") really had me thinking Rey was gonna die

Like 10 minutes in it occurred to me this was such an ensemble that "the main character" from her POV could be *anyone* which really raised the stakes for me in every fight/battle sequence (woah , and I really bought that Finn was gonna bite it in that run

Rose as a character is fine but she feels like a plucky Disney sidekick grafted onto a Star Wars film. Also the off-ness of calling a character Rose in the SW universe really grates - other protags have otherly names like Rey, Kylo, Poe, Maz ... even Finn gets away with being a Verizon of his serial number. And then ... Rose.

ack, version, there isn’t even a company of that name in my country you stupid autocorrect

Han, Luke, Leia

Ben, Owen, Bubba, Ray, Rex, Cody, Django

elan sleazebaganno

did we get a last name? she could be rose sleazebaganno.

well now she’ll be rose sleazebaganno to me until proven otherwise

it’s Tico

oh right

tombot with the block

she was rose sleazebaganno for less then 30 seconds ffs

tom lolzblockanno

Han? Leia? Not everyday names to me. Dunno who Bubba is. Django is Jango but I’ll take it. But Rose just sounds like lazy DGAF writing.

“Leia” seems like a variation of “Leah” which is a perfectly ordinary name.

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

some of their names may sound like some of ours but it's just coincidence

Like...really? Obi-Wan goes by Ben in ANH, there's Luke, Luke's uncle is named Owen, all kindsa common names in the uni

Yoda’s last name? Ho, obviously

http://www.tshirtbordello.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/600x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/i/d/idaho-udaho-lg.gif

Lucas got the names for the main trio of heroes while at a bar overhearing a dude defending his gf: "look if you lay a hand on her..."

Better than asking his 4 yr old or whoever for prequel names.

prequel names do include a Ric, another Ben, and an Evan iirc but yeah overall it's a syllable dartboard disaster over there

More real people should be named after verbs. Wedge, Bail, Mace.

porkins

Biggs

god dammit I'm sure I remember making some kind of actual point about "plucky sidekick Rose" back there

I can't find where I posted the original Darth Icky story :(

Star Wars 7 shit talk

also detailed here

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/04/04/fall-of-the-empire-how-inner-turmoil-brought-down-a-legendary-studio.aspx

But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’

dying

TS: BJ Dart vs. Jet Brody

Meantime, more on roast Porgs and how to get green milk (that creature wasn't CGI, it turns out)

http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-neal-scanlan-interview/#porgs-caretakers-fathiers-vulptex-crystal-foxes

might go see this again today, expecting to have a contented, enjoyable DC-like second viewing experience

better than cgi recreation of carrie fisher in a film not yet made how abt cgi removal of ewan macgregor from three films that have been

Movie would have been way better if Rose had been played by Awkwafina. Or if she'd played any part, really.

i remember the shiver of naive optimism i felt when told that macgregor was to play obi-wan. 'wow, nothing is sacred - and that's a good thing!' is what i thought, or something along those lines. everything was yet to play for. it could have all turned out so differently.

there is no film he isn't the worst thing in

(i am watching attack of the clones for the first time to test this thesis)

You may find your thesis tested.

"Rose" as a name bothered me a little too. It's not that it's ordinary sounding, it's that it's specifically earthly. Though millennium "falcon" has always had some inexplicable pass on the same issue, so I guess I'll get over it.

they can cgi out c3po while they're at it

Falcon, an earthy word, highly unlike the never once used or heard millennium.

lol

they should cgi out every character and just have a bunch of sets, it'll be like garfield minus garfield

that would actually be pretty easy since at least in 2 and 3 everybody was cgi'ed into the environments in the first place. would be kind of amazing. with the swipes swapped for dissolves it'd look like you were watching someone playing Myst.

one BILLLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars

Anyway, I liked both of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8-6whswEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFfMN6lPnlA

they are both probably better than the film

finally saw this, and didn't hate it. Still deciding if I liked it... I had some gripes, as far as too many obvious references to lines or actions in the original trilogy, and too many out-of-nowhere rescues or close calls, but I also thought that the tone of it, and "feel", were pretty good. It felt very much a "Star wars story", if not yet something that totally connects it to the originals for me. But I could see that happening if IX is good. I kind of wish Rian Johnson was doing that too, because it seemed like he got the SW style better than JJ Abrams.

In the ext installment, Bea Arthur returns as CGI only , reprising her role as cantina master, but reveling she is the chosen one

If this shit is canon then so is the wookie special dammit!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzXKySxPFCI

sick burn

The studious are throwing so much money at stupid ideas with untested directors it's insane.

I think the motivativation for this is deliberate. The only other film class I took was one on the Bond series, and the TA made the point that the Broccolis kept changing directors and picking ones without much of a directoral style(Guy Hamilton was the closest to a Bond auteur) to maintain the series as producer-driven, not director.

Similarly, the producers & the studio grab indie directors with maybe one or two breakout films to their credit and saddle them with a massive blockbuster franchise as to retain all the power. You put a person not used to dealing with a $250m budget and endless studio notes and producer fuckery and maybe they can’t call the shots as much. Hell, this sort of happened on Return of the Jedi, didn’t it, since Scorcese & Lynch passed up the directing chair.

Sometimes you get directors who can handle the weight with aplomb(James Gunn, Taika Waititi), and plenty times not(Trevorrow, the dude from Chronicle). The untested choices are a feature, not a bug.

I think it’s a different scale from what happened with 70-80s directors as the industry has changed. Lucas/Spielberg/DePalma/Carpenter/Raimi/Cameron/Bigelow had the more traditional ramp-up.

I think the examples of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are instructive - both directors brought on by Lucas so he could concentrate on running the effects sequences which were naturally going to be a huge portion of the movie. So basically there to do the "actor stuff." One has a much stronger visual sensibility and a knack for working with actors and that film, apart from having a much better script and more interesting story, is regarded as a classic; its actory scenes are all among its most iconic shots. The other has taken a lot of hits over the years and with a couple exceptions the actory scenes are at best serviceable-looking.

Feel like something similar might be apparent in the contemporary blockbuster world, where most of what you see onscreen is the work of those pages and pages of computer-effects people in the end credits, and the movies sort of stand or fall on whether what's in between the effects shots is at all memorable or just kind of flat and lifeless to look at.