The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Best implemented in Bastion, a game with a start to precipice interval (a key game design metric ) or less than a second, where the narrators first sentence about our hero awakening has just enough time to finish that it runs smoothly into ,"and then he fell off a cliff and died "

xp but then it repeatedly put me back on a ledge i couldn't leave without jumping off. the only way i could break this loop was to quit and reload.

pretty much the only thing well implemented in bastion. as far as i remember at this point that's the game's actual story. there was a guy he woke up he fell off a cliff and died

it sux that you're having a frustrating experience and I agree that on the whole the button layout is badly thought out (though not as much as fucking mario, wherein doing the fullest jump requires the player to play a kind of solo cats-cradle)

i do think this is the unfortunate side effect of choosing to put a game down right before the first point it asks the player to demonstrate mastery tho. (for me and i think others this was a memorable high point of the whole thing)

'xp but then it repeatedly put me back on a ledge i couldn't leave without jumping off. the only way i could break this loop was to quit and reload'

can't you fast travel back to the opening of the elephant? or do i misremember

yeah, i would have persisted just a few minutes longer if i'd known the zora kingdom was about to go crazy.

I agree that on the whole the button layout is badly thought out (though not as much as fucking mario, wherein doing the fullest jump requires the player to play a kind of solo cats-cradle)

my biggest gripe with switch zelda/mario (apart from camera ai apparently going backwards 15 years) is the inconsistency in controls. with zelda you dash while running with b, but dash while swimming with x. with mario you press the right stick to exit look-around mode, but you press zl to exit binoculars look-around mode. there's a load of these inconsistencies and it only gets in the way.

can't you fast travel back to the opening of the elephant? or do i misremember

when i was stood in a dead-end alcove on top of the elephant and i fell off, it took me back to the dead-end alcove.

alcoves. towers. Zelda In Bruges.

Wow I did NOT have an issue with controls (apart from never getting a hang of the slo-mo parry/dodge trick). I'm tempted to boot the game up just to try to understand exactly what you could possibly mean. "Menuing" was indeed annoying every time you're reminded your inventory was full though.

i swapped the jump and run buttons right away and never had any control issues after that

my main issue with the control is that it sometimes recommends that I press a button by letter, and my brain always wants to sort the button letters alphabetically left-to-right. so I am constantly mixing up X with Y and A with B.

also funny that they stuck to the original B/A confirm/cancel assignments which is the opposite of Playstation and Xbox

It’s not the opposite of Japanese PlayStations, which use O to confirm and X to cancel, I hasten to pedantically observe.

Anyway Nintendo has been using the same button layout this whole time, why would they change

oh man, it is definitely the xbox which has ruined me for switch controls.

i def struggled with the aiming controls at first. for the first week i had my switch i thought i had a defective right joycon. every time i tried to aim an arrow the camera would be jittery and shakey. eventually i realized it is setup to use not just motion control instead of analog stick controls but both at the same time.

ive somehow found a way to make it work. really think that having both options at once is an optimal setup even if its weird at default. you can aim by pointing at the screen and you can also swing the camera around w the stick if that isn't doing it for you.

yeah, I had no complaints with the combo mode after I realized what was happening

i swapped the jump and run buttons right away and never had any control issues after that

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fantastic! cheers, i will definitely do that.

i had a crack at water ganon and walked away because (a) i still only have five hearts (b) trying to aim an arrow while monitoring for various attacks is a nightmare (c) the. fucking. camera. pretty bloody hard to attack an enemy who appears behind you and pulls off a one-hit kill before you can even find the bastard.

one of the beautiful things about oot was the camera never ever getting in the way. not once. maybe i'm doing it wrong but the whole elephant dungeon feels like the buggiest part of morrowind.

You can switch that motion control off, you know.

oh i did that

i kinda love the motion control for precise aiming, but it feels natural on the handhold and weird on the big screen -- but yeah i've been playing the last of us this week and i keep trying to aim by tilting the ps4 pad

the first thing I played on my switch was 50 hours of Splatoon so now the motion controls are totally natural and I can't deal with any game that doesn't use them for aiming

I cant use it, my hands arent steady enough. Tho obviously its neccesary for the tilt puzzles in some of the shrines.

the first time i had one of those i was so annoyed that you can't really just glide over there and do it manually. i mean you can but it's even futzier than it is to just do the tilt puzzle.

just did the korok trials. they were extremely annoying, and I loved it. think I might try dragging out the main quest for a full year. don't want to disappoint the weapons connoisseur.

low note swell when you're swallowed by the lost woods fog is very twin peaksy

would welcome major briggs head shield dlc

I can read a thousand more of these "why Breath of the Wild is so great" gushing articles.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/10/16868292/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-best-games-2017-year-in-review

One of my hands doesn't work that great anymore - I can play Ocarina on the GameCube fine - but would you say Breath is stupidly difficult? I've always kinda hated complex-control games, right back to when Elite made me cry out of boredom.

i didn't find the controls complex so much as i found that they require lots of menuing, which to me is the opposite of complex because it doesn't require me to master complicated real-time fluid hand gestures - the fact that i can't quite remember how to shoot arrows a lot of the time and wound up trial-and-erroring it didn't really keep me from beating the game. i can see how having to spend 30 seconds scrolling through your inventory to find a healing item can break immersion, though.

it's more difficult than the other 3d zeldas - you can't just mash your way through fights like you can in much of Ocarina. you need to either use your tools and the environment in clever ways or get good at dodge/parry timing.

Love it, had it delivered today, accidentally played for six hours. It turns out the wee controls are perfect for somebody with slightly incapacitated movement.

awesome!

I am dying a lot. Don't save your game on top of a broken temple roof. Still amazing though!

the game autosaves pretty much any time you're about to encounter anything, i only ever manually save when i'm done playing

finally saved up 13 hearts and made it to the master sword. 2 divine beasts down but i think i will wander aimlessly, im in no hurry to finish this game ever.

yeah thats about as far as i ever got as well

been doing all side/shrine quests. Amazing how much you miss following the main quest.

I've been saving before I cook so I can experiment with different recipes

Not a sentence I was expecting to type after I bought Zelda, but part of the fun is knowing nothing in advance

yeah I have one beast to go (the desert one's internal puzzles are actually really confusing, so I'm not sure I can do it!) and Ive wandered a lot. Actually havent touched zelda in a few weeks tho - I got caught up playing civ V during my hols.

Tip also for anyone who didnt know: when you see the very start of a blood moon happen (you'll see a red moon rise, then eventually notice the misty smoke in the air), cook if you're near a cookfire! All recipes will get the bonus.

there's a blood moon cooking bonus??

yep! its a pretty small window but time seems to stop when you throw food in the pot so if you do that over and over in quick succession Ive found I can fit in at least 4 or 5 recipes if I time it right.

That said I never seem to be near a bloody pot when it happens.

The bonus appears to stop after the moon peak/cut scene, its worth noting.

that is really cool, first i've heard of this bonus!

im unlocking the various shrines in the lost woods. this game is magic

blood moon cooking bonus is news to me as well. finished up goron beast yesterday. felt like a stroll through tarry town square after gerudo beast. I can see by what you carry (about 40 loads of wood) that you come from tarry town.

this game

wow

I wasn’t sure at first. the world seemed so empty for stretches. but you really need that emptiness to make all the little discoveries so magical

<3

the dev presentation about the world design someone posted is fantastic if you can find the link

it was great, but got screwed up because the guy took down the pictures by request since they were from a private presentation