Super Mario Odyssey

yeah idk I like this way better than the Galaxy games. some people just don't like the collect-a-thon format as much i guess

2D mario is a better gimmick than small planets with high gravity

anybody have any luck w the talkatoo glitch? i wanted to use it to get the 100 jump ropes but i can't seem to get Mario to hover in the air.

if you throw cappy over talkatoo's head and then talk to him when it is less than a hat's distance from the bird the camera does the weird freeze thing. i believe that if you can roll away from talkatoo before the camera freeze and get him out of frame, you can control when the camera freezes.

supposedly after the camera freezes you can jump up and freeze Mario in mid-air but that part isn't working for me. anybody have any luck with this? i wonder if it's been patched out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzlqVbXU6po

finally pulled off this glitch and got 100 jump ropes via levitation! to pull this off:

1) find a talkatoo and face it w the jump rope course in the background
2) jump and throw cappy (y)
3) talk to him while the cap is in the air and it will freeze. if it is close enough to talkatoo the glitch will register
4) go through the talk dialog and immediately roll away, hitting R to reset the camera. there is a second or so of grace time to do this. (from this point on if talkatoo is comes back into view with the camera, the camera will freeze and Mario's Y position will also freeze. the action of talkatoo coming back into frame is what triggers the freeze.)
6) walk around the jump ropers, careful to keep talkatoo out of frame. get ready to jump into the jump rope from the left. when i pulled this off i started near the fire hydrant.
7) jump into the jump rope and hit ground pound (ZR) and camera center (R) at the same time. im not sure the ground pound is 100% necessary but doing other jumps (ie dive jump) may cause Mario to slide across the X axis after freezing. also be careful of motion controls, you might get the gitch and then accidentally shake the controller during jump rope, causing Mario to jump off in a crazy direction and ruin the trick.
8) Mario is frozen in mid-air, the jump ropers continue to go through the numbers beneath him, and you can use this trick to get both 30 and 100 jump power moons easily.

the funny thing, i got that one legit. it's the dang volleyball one i cant do

yeah idk I like this way better than the Galaxy games. some people just don't like the collect-a-thon format as much i guess

it's the pace of Odyssey that makes it less satisfying for me to play - the moons are more like pellets in a maze - you get one, it doesn't really feel like it matters much, keep right on moving, some of them are just hanging around in the trees. the gameplay itself is a wonder, I'm not saying the game sucks, but the pacing/rhythm of it makes the story & characters feel pretty incidental - like, I can't imagine other Mario games reskinned as Banjo-Kazooie or w/e. this one feels like a mechanic that was big & fluid enough to say "we'll give it to the Mario franchise, it's impressive enough to get the gold ring"

the 2D integration would only fully work with mario or another game that existed long ago in 2D anyway. also can't imagine browsing banjo pants and stuffed jinjos at the shop and caring.

the new donk city festival was also the best part of the game, had to be mario, and felt like the peak of what can be done with the game's underlying design.

a lost memory type story may have helped tie artifacts, moons, and characters together, but they already did it with the other blockbuster open world feeling game

the 2d gimmick was cute the first time but they did pretty much nothing with it

there's maybe two sections where the 2d-to-3d passage is allowed to be interesting, the level design within those segments is not interesting enough on its own, and you end up -- as with most of the other interruptions to the central mechanic -- putting down your fun to pick up hm-maybe-fun-but-like-not-as-much-fun

this is the perfect mario game for anyone who got bored of mario 64 after a half hour and decided to play goat simulator

possessing bullet bill vs finding a power star. it is a mario game.

will grant that food land and first-crash-landing island levels felt a bit mario-kazooie

I think the main thing I enjoy in 3d Mario is verticality, my favorite levels in 64 were the mountain ones and my favorites in this are the city and the wooded kingdom. The Galaxy games have a few vertical levels but not on the scale I want, they tend to be content to shuttle you between lots of miniatures rather than one big thing to climb

Yeah, I really hate neon pukey soup land. I hate being a slidey lava monster so bad.

this game owns. I'm up to about 390 moons now, I think.

I hit 500 over the weekend~

the moons are more like pellets in a maze - you get one, it doesn't really feel like it matters much, keep right on moving, some of them are just hanging around in the trees.

utterly otm. some moons are just 'oh look you found a moon!', others have a big fanfare and the red backdrop, but they're all just the same moon. multi-moons have a bigger fanfare and a longer animation, but they're just three of the same moon. they're not rewards for reaching a goal any more, they're just chucked all over the place.

the designers could have addressed this by perhaps making the simpler "congratulations for walking up this hill you were walking up anyway, here's a moon"-type moons blue coins instead, so the incidental rewards led to suits etc and only the proper achievements led to moons. as it stands the blue coins are just placed like slightly trickier gold coins.

which, by the way, don't seem to have much of a point. they're mostly to let you die heaps (they could have just done away with the 1up counter but whatever) and for buying more moons. it seems weird to have 30 gold coins on a difficult-to-access platform you can see from a distance, because by reaching it you only get the same sort of coin you could amass by warping to another flag with easier coins. it's not an incentive.

it's like they read only the very best donkey kong 64 reviews

the only sort of real incentive is the enjoyment of playing the game. they have moon bundles for the boss fights.

im fine with Power Moons. they unlock costumes. they unlock levels. to find a good number of them you have to play through dozens of new areas. what else do they need to do? coins havent had a point since Super Mario Bros. 3 when they started giving out free stuff at various mini-maps (the one room mushroom houses in SMB3 roughly analogous to the costume rooms or power moons hidden around corners of SMO).

the point of it all seems to be exploring and having fun and enjoying the way the game plays. does it need anything more?

i agree re incentives (e.g. big changes after beating bosses), it just feels like a ‘90s collectathon

well, like I say...the storyline in Galaxy 2 is so incredible that in replay it's still like...I have to open up these planets I can see on the line! I have to achieve my goal! here, all that feels...kind of like a convenience that's there to satisfy the needs of it being a Mario game.

It's still good and fun, but it doesn't hook me like one with a stronger narrative.

hopefully those galaxy games come to some kind of switch VC so i can play them

galaxy 2 is pretty much the pinnacle of 'get from point A to point B' mario i think

can’t think how they’d do wii vc games without wii controllers, unless they make a special compatible wii wand thing

the game controllers are basically wii wand things only better? I think they would translate easily

they don’t have the ir thingies though

e.g. collecting star bits would be weird

i think the accelerometer works as well as the infrared used too tbh... i'd need to see it in action but i bet it could fake it.

there’s a story?

good guy mario has to rescue a superstar from a dinosaur rapist

got to 500... might be nearing the end of my play through now

on my 2nd playthrough. just finished the lesser-loved Luncheon Kingdom. i forgot you play as a lava bubble jumping up against the flow of a giant bird's purple vomit waterfall. <3 this game.

also i do like the combo of Greek ruins with giant neon low-poly fruits and veggies. it's kind of like a weird mutant version of classical decadence.

i actually was quite the fan of lunch kingdom

yeah I thought that was the best non vertical level

testament to how good this game is that the usually sucky worlds (ice and water) absolutely own

weird, I think ice levels are normally good and this one is the weakest! where are the Mario 64 style slides?

i beat the final final world. the last gauntlet is quite tough! you have to make it through a bunch of sections all in one life. still have a handful of moons to get in the Mushroom Kingdom and i'm still missing purple coins/souvenirs/stickers in from half the others.

that "Jump Up, Super Star" song has become my number one earworm of 2018. the song just keeps popping into my head. anyone notice the fast 8-bit Woody The Woodypecker jingle in there? wonder what the deal is with that...

lunch kingdom suuuuucked. I did love the caterpillar land, tho.

i beat the final final world. the last gauntlet is quite tough! you have to make it through a bunch of sections all in one life.

far out you are formidable. that is a shitbag of a level. i got that multimoon through the cheat instead, because fuck returning to goombas every time you die.

i feel like if i have the temerity to ever try the moon challenges again i might just have to pick up a Peach amiibo, cuz i am not hardcore

i got that multimoon through the cheat instead

yeah i read about that on Kotaku. is that based on the same concept as the Talkatoo glitch? im going to have to do it, it sounds kind of fun. you turn into a frog and traverse the abyss?

yep

it’s so easy to pull off it’s sort of ridiculous

love the Battle in Bubblaine boss rematch in the Mushroom Kingdom. they really switch up an already awesome boss fight. now there is no ground and no water beneath you, only clouds, and it is constantly raining, so you have infinite water jetpack. it's pretty cool.

http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Nintendo-Super-Mario-Odyssey-Concept-Art-03-680x389.jpg

http://conceptartworld.com/news/super-mario-odyssey-concept-art/
https://nintendoeverything.com/super-mario-odyssey-bonneton-concept-art/

if we don't get a dlc kingdom or 2 for this soon I will take it as proof they are making a second game