Star Wars 8 shit talk

Star Wars 7 shit talk

also detailed here

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/04/04/fall-of-the-empire-how-inner-turmoil-brought-down-a-legendary-studio.aspx

But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’

dying

TS: BJ Dart vs. Jet Brody

Meantime, more on roast Porgs and how to get green milk (that creature wasn't CGI, it turns out)

http://collider.com/the-last-jedi-neal-scanlan-interview/#porgs-caretakers-fathiers-vulptex-crystal-foxes

might go see this again today, expecting to have a contented, enjoyable DC-like second viewing experience

better than cgi recreation of carrie fisher in a film not yet made how abt cgi removal of ewan macgregor from three films that have been

Movie would have been way better if Rose had been played by Awkwafina. Or if she'd played any part, really.

i remember the shiver of naive optimism i felt when told that macgregor was to play obi-wan. 'wow, nothing is sacred - and that's a good thing!' is what i thought, or something along those lines. everything was yet to play for. it could have all turned out so differently.

there is no film he isn't the worst thing in

(i am watching attack of the clones for the first time to test this thesis)

You may find your thesis tested.

"Rose" as a name bothered me a little too. It's not that it's ordinary sounding, it's that it's specifically earthly. Though millennium "falcon" has always had some inexplicable pass on the same issue, so I guess I'll get over it.

they can cgi out c3po while they're at it

Falcon, an earthy word, highly unlike the never once used or heard millennium.

lol

they should cgi out every character and just have a bunch of sets, it'll be like garfield minus garfield

that would actually be pretty easy since at least in 2 and 3 everybody was cgi'ed into the environments in the first place. would be kind of amazing. with the swipes swapped for dissolves it'd look like you were watching someone playing Myst.

one BILLLLLLLLLLLLLION dollars

Anyway, I liked both of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8-6whswEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFfMN6lPnlA

they are both probably better than the film

finally saw this, and didn't hate it. Still deciding if I liked it... I had some gripes, as far as too many obvious references to lines or actions in the original trilogy, and too many out-of-nowhere rescues or close calls, but I also thought that the tone of it, and "feel", were pretty good. It felt very much a "Star wars story", if not yet something that totally connects it to the originals for me. But I could see that happening if IX is good. I kind of wish Rian Johnson was doing that too, because it seemed like he got the SW style better than JJ Abrams.

In the ext installment, Bea Arthur returns as CGI only , reprising her role as cantina master, but reveling she is the chosen one

If this shit is canon then so is the wookie special dammit!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzXKySxPFCI

sick burn

The studious are throwing so much money at stupid ideas with untested directors it's insane.

I think the motivativation for this is deliberate. The only other film class I took was one on the Bond series, and the TA made the point that the Broccolis kept changing directors and picking ones without much of a directoral style(Guy Hamilton was the closest to a Bond auteur) to maintain the series as producer-driven, not director.

Similarly, the producers & the studio grab indie directors with maybe one or two breakout films to their credit and saddle them with a massive blockbuster franchise as to retain all the power. You put a person not used to dealing with a $250m budget and endless studio notes and producer fuckery and maybe they can’t call the shots as much. Hell, this sort of happened on Return of the Jedi, didn’t it, since Scorcese & Lynch passed up the directing chair.

Sometimes you get directors who can handle the weight with aplomb(James Gunn, Taika Waititi), and plenty times not(Trevorrow, the dude from Chronicle). The untested choices are a feature, not a bug.

I think it’s a different scale from what happened with 70-80s directors as the industry has changed. Lucas/Spielberg/DePalma/Carpenter/Raimi/Cameron/Bigelow had the more traditional ramp-up.

I think the examples of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi are instructive - both directors brought on by Lucas so he could concentrate on running the effects sequences which were naturally going to be a huge portion of the movie. So basically there to do the "actor stuff." One has a much stronger visual sensibility and a knack for working with actors and that film, apart from having a much better script and more interesting story, is regarded as a classic; its actory scenes are all among its most iconic shots. The other has taken a lot of hits over the years and with a couple exceptions the actory scenes are at best serviceable-looking.

Feel like something similar might be apparent in the contemporary blockbuster world, where most of what you see onscreen is the work of those pages and pages of computer-effects people in the end credits, and the movies sort of stand or fall on whether what's in between the effects shots is at all memorable or just kind of flat and lifeless to look at.

It's honestly baffling to me to see Facebook threads from friends-of-friends who like TFA, but HATE this movie. I definitely prefer TLJ (felt more alive, more surprising choices, etc) but they weren't wildly dissimilar experiences. Can't decide if they're basic, or if I am.

i'm increasingly worried that audiences who grew up imprinted by the prequels are going to start demanding kylo slaughter the force-sensitive cleaning crew kids while soliloquizing about sand because to them, that's what star wars is really about.

"That's what Star Wars is all about, Charlie Brown."

*cue Vince Guaraldi arrangement of the main theme*

xxpost They're basic.

I get why you'd try and find the next Gunn / Watiti debut, but once you're down to hiring the director of A Royal Affair there's too many wannabe franchises and not enough directors suited for them. And not enough other possibilities for a director who should be out there making tasteful mid budget pap. He used to be quite good at that.

Basic as hell

As far as not being wildly dissimilar experiences, the gripes I don't get:

*People who liked TFA and hated TLJ for "how it ruined Luke's character". Like, his self-imposed exile was part of The Force Awakens. It's pretty obvious he didn't leave to gain secret mega-Jedi knowledge so he could fly back and kick ass later. The only bait and switch with this movie is we were meant to think he'd eventually train Rey and rejoin the fight, and he technically does both, just not in the way that we expected.

*People who say "the force doesn't work like that" as if there's ever been a manual that consistently explains what it can be used for. for all we know Jedis use the force to take quicker shits too.

*People who focused excessively on plot holes but loved the OG trilogy. I rewatched the original trilogy this weekend and while the impact of these films haven't dimmed in the least, I did find myself wondering a) why nobody ever seems to be required to use a keycard on Imperial bases, thus meaning all it takes to get into any access point is beating a soldier up and stealing his uniform, b) why it's so easy to dupe Imperial guards by merely hiding in the ship and beating them up when they walk by, c) why Vader goes through the rigmarole of freezing Han purely "to test the cryofreeze process" so they can freeze Luke for his visit to the Emperor, when he really doesn't seem to have any intention of freezing Luke since he is simultaneously trying to kill him or convert him to overthrow the emperor with him, and d) why Vader's team merely deactivated the hyperdrive rather than just making the ship outright inoperable or rigging it w/ a bomb or something. why? cos who cares, that's why!

People who disliked TFA and disliked this one, at least that's internally consistent.

The one thing I expected to maybe happen was based on Rey looking down into the water below the island and seeing the submerged X-wing, then later mentioning Luke having abandoned the force. Thought he'd get it together and raise his X-wing out of the water via the force and fly to battle. In ESB Yoda raised it up, so it might have been a nice way to call back to that scene.

Instead he did yoga on a rock. That's ok though bc I'm sure that fighter was waterlogged and fully non-operational.

My co-worker got the impression that Luke was dead / projecting himself during *the entire movie* and not just during the Kylo Ren showdown. Did others get this impression?

Only the porgs are alive. Everyone else is dead.

in that Luke was sitting somewhere else and projecting himself to Rey during the whole island stuff? No.

Amazing that a hologram picked up a real staff to parry with as well as grabbing and throwing Rey's, speared a huge fish, milked a...thing,

focusing on plot holes in SW, at least any of the ones that have to do with the inconsistent use of technology, is like I said, wondering why they don’t have a smoke detector in the stress test episode of The IT Crowd

can't wait for RPGs to add "force milk" to the roster of abilities.

There was a MAD Magazine gag that showed Vader using his Force abilities to fondle someone's ass

Lightspeeding into another ship seems like something they would do all the time, though (with unmanned ships).

hyperspace jumps can't melt mandalorian steel beams

hyperspace tracking seems like something they would do all the time
force ghosts throwing thunderbolts seems like something they would do all the time
shooting up the hangar bay before the fighters can launch seems like something they would do all the time

xpost that'd be pretty expensive building a bunch of Raddus-sized ships for the sheer purpose of destroying them as opposed to finding less expensive ways to inflict destruction

I mean this ain't WWII

the shooting up the hangar bay was dope

I thought it was pretty sexist tbf

The only other film class I took was one on the Bond series, and the TA made the point that the Broccolis kept changing directors and picking ones without much of a directoral style(Guy Hamilton was the closest to a Bond auteur) to maintain the series as producer-driven, not director.

damn i don't really agree with this ta at all. i mean maybe that was the broccolis' objective but 1. there are a lot of bond films directed by terence young (prob most responsible for how bond movies *feel*), lewis gilbert, and john glen, which gives me the sense that they tended to revolve between a few reliable directors including hamilton 2. hamilton's movies aren't even the most visually distinctive bond movies!

sorry if i have turned yet another thread into a bond discussion

xp all the women fighter pilots who have to work twice as hard to get anywhere show up on time and get killed, fuckin' Poe is 15 minutes late as usual because he's a rock god or whatever so he just gets tossed down the hall by the shockwave

The one thing I expected to maybe happen was based on Rey looking down into the water below the island and seeing the submerged X-wing, then later mentioning Luke having abandoned the force. Thought he'd get it together and raise his X-wing out of the water via the force and fly to battle. In ESB Yoda raised it up, so it might have been a nice way to call back to that scene.

Instead he did yoga on a rock. That's ok though bc I'm sure that fighter was waterlogged and fully non-operational.

― omar little, Tuesday, January 2, 2018 7:16 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark

yeah i think the submerged x-wing shot was a red herring included precisely to keep people believing that luke had shown up to krait until the plot twist