you're engaging with both a record and with a fellow ilxor's writing in a totally disingenuous, obnoxious, shitty way just to tell your "truths" or whatever so like, fuck you, still
matt otm though
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:30 (six years ago) link
there are ways to slag off and vent without being a total shithead imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
i love music, the board for people who love music
― you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link
as requested: sacred paws is just insipid tropical good-vibesy nothingcore imo, but it's no big deal really. if absolutely everyone loved it then I'd be more vituperative but they're a minor concern just doing what they're doing and that can remain someone else's business
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
imago otm
LOL @ hurt butts itt
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999
what if you wanted to hear CDs skipping with heavy 808 bass beneath? oval has non 808 bass
also: king krule rools, u all drool
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
I know this is going to make me unpopular but I'm just gonna say it, I don't think Yes needed to release another live album in 2017
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
oh no u
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad
― brimstead, Friday, December 15, 2017 3:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i feel this way too? idk. there is little that i feel excited about or drawn to when i go through most 2017 lists
― marcos, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort
but i think that's down to the age of the listener (toll of 24 years of active music hipsterism) rather than the quality of the music
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
I don't really feel that way late at night for whatever reason
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link
Jlin - one track limit with her stuff, just is way too maddening and jarring - def of acquired taste
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
that was just a tautology, most music from every year is bad
but
yeah same here
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link
vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs
― brimstead, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
i like literally dozens of records that came out this year but somehow i still wind up listening to nothing but '70s music all the time
at some point i'll stop pretending but not until i run out of disk space
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
Wow @ people shitting on Jlin. I thought Black Origami was way more interesting/fun than Dark Energy
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link
my assumption is that they are new to footwork in general and don't really *get it* yet
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
Loved the final ;_; DJ Rashad album but this has been a bit arid for my tastes. Might return to it
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
"arid" is a good way to put it
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
i definitely didn't get it till i saw her live at Day For Night, experiencing it in a physical space really made me engage with the album on physical terms instead of approaching it conceptually like i had been. it's tougher to crack than Rashad for sure, mostly because Rashad consciously aimed to create a "pop"-ish version of footwork and Jlin has absolutely no interest in that from what i can tell.
― austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
I think my only problem with Jlin is how people write about it, "futuristic sound design" comes up a lot. To my ears her tracks are these very dense, pointillistic arrangements of one-shot samples that haven't been altered much, they sound like sample packs. And that's very 'footwork', it's fine. Her main innovation imo is doubling down on the 12/8 feel that has been creeping into footwork, and turning it into this West African polyrhythmic thing.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I try not to post too much about music I don't like, cos this is I Love Music after all, and tbh I haven't heard that much 2017 music that I don't like apart from some generic hardcore/punk records that nobody here (save maybe DJ Mencap) listens to anyway. BUT! I can say I heard a King Krule single and thought it was shit! Participation!
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
Jordan, i definitely get that and i think it's mostly people mistaking density for innovation. i'm more interested in the cultural implications of, like you said, her blend of footwork with west african polyrhythmic stuff than i am in the ~experimentalness~ of it all.
― austinb, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
xp i agree w the big main point of what you're saying jordan but 1) iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami and 2) it isn't just about the individual samples but also the mixing, mastering, etc. on a big-ass system jlin's tracks sound heavy and massive in a way that old footwork tracks don't
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
I buy that, even seeing a live clip from awhile back gave that sense.
iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami
I still don't buy this, although I guess it depends on the definition of what makes a sample your own. And I'm mostly talking about the percussion anyway. It's ok, not everyone has to record their own samples. I am curious to hear that dance score that she did, it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Late great , that assumption is wrong in my case
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link
duly noted
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
fwiw ppl in chicago dont really see her stuff as 'footwork' any more, its def more of a hybridization thing
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
(i quite like it)
I adore Jlin and the album will be very very high on my list (fuck, it might even win it), but I kind of agree with people that it's not that "futuristic" or "experimental". The techniques and stylisation aren't super new, they just sound fucking awesome.
I probably should stay away from this thread, though, b/c it'll just bum me out.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
xp deej is footwork still a going concern in chicago? or are the kids onto some new trend?
― the late great, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
its fallen off as a super popular thing basically as rap music started to rise, but there are def people who still hold onto it & do events at schools and shit like that
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
seem to remember that 'experimental' was suggested by jlin herself as an alternative to 'footwork', but if neither of those are any good then what the heck do you call this music? two things i'd say to the haterz tho: spotify + earbuds or whatever don't really do justice to this record, and also it's the last songs on the album that are the real bangers imo, especially 1%: "you're all going to die here"
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
oh fuck i screwed up the quote already
1% is def placing well on my tracks ballot
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link
it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.
she has several tracks that are around 120bpm.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
all the stuff i really hate is so niche it feels too mean to shit on it. but there's some real stinkers out there getting undeserved praise
― ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
nah, you should go all friedrich niche and denounce these recondite idols
― faust apes (NickB), Friday, 12 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
they don't deserve the esteem of upwards of ten blogs!
― ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
srsly
bring it on
ogmor bile is amongst the more restoratively potent on ilx atm
― #TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
it's actually extremely overrated and superficial
― ogmor, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
superficiality of bile is one of its more refined characteristics. a connoisseur can really pick it out and appreciate it
― #TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
anyhow until I am more reliably informed I am going to assume ogmor is being so crass as to inwardly impugn kasabian
― #TeamHailing (imago), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:19 PM (three days ago)
Isn't that like, all gabor lazar output? ...
― sarahell, Friday, 12 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
so? vote for him, his stuff rules
― brimstead, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
i don't know anybody else besides mark fell who does that SSRI withdrawal brain zap sound that's like a deep brain massage
― brimstead, Friday, 12 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
st vincent is so, so terrible now. and i liked her before, a bit
― #TeamHailing (imago), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
Yep
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:42 (six years ago) link
Good god, the Equiknoxx album is awful. I’m not sure of the last time I was so consistently annoyed by a record. Dancehall with all the reasons people like dancehall stripped out is not a promising concept to begin with but it surely doesn’t have to sound like an Ableton Live abandoned sketches folder.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link