US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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i wonder if anyone's still editing these statements? that last one seemed to be directly from trump.

Trump cannot compose short, coherent sentences like that.

― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, January 3, 2018 2:30 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

correct use of "whom" is a real giveaway too

rob, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

i'm not listening to it to check but...

Trump’s comments about Bannon today are almost word for word what @benshapiro said about Bannon on @Jamie_Weinstein’s podcast last week.

— Matt Lewis (@mattklewis) January 3, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

I mean the practical effect is it fractures a perceived unified front where 'the GOP' as defined downplays or actively rails against claims of collusion, Mueller's work etc. Now someone who was working with Trump out and in of the White House for a year is one record as saying 'nah, something's there.' There's already a rapid closing of ranks in response but even so -- and, as I've thought about more and more this morning, it's...interesting that Bannon seems terribly unworried about this probe, which theoretically could affect him. Makes me wonder a bit -- saw a claim earlier that he's been mentioned nowhere in Mueller's team's public interview schedule. By now you'd think they would have talked to him, and maybe they have...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

It certainly will make the Nunes and Meadows types in the House to think twice about criticizing Mueller. After all, they had their eye firmly on a base besotted with Bannon/Breitbart.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

I lol'd hard at Bannon's comment (from the book I think) that he wont testify, wont get a lawyer. Yeah I dont think you have a choice in the matter my dude.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

unfortunately, none of this matters

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 3. januar 2018 20:29 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If Bannon loses his followers it could mean a lot for senate primaries.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

Trump condensed:

My senior policy advisor? I had nothing to do with him.
My campaign chairman? Only with me for a short time.
My national security advisor? A liar.
My foreign policy advisor? He was just a coffee boy.

Don Jr? Um ... fake news!

— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 3, 2018

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

Andrew Breitbart would be ashamed of the division and lies Steve Bannon is spreading!

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 3, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

unfortunately, none of this matters

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 3. januar 2018 20:29 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If Bannon loses his followers it could mean a lot for senate primaries.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, January 3, 2018 7:49 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya his PAC planning to boost little trumps & moore-likes in primaries has been one of the more frightening developments for me out of all this & if the redhats divide over this i'll breathe a sigh of relief

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

xpost Okay, that one's flat-out hilarious. And 'ashamed'! A concept about which no one involved or named has any understanding!

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link

denial ain't just a river of grievances

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

i do sometimes wonder what the cultural landscape of the us would be like if andrew beetbort hadn’t been assassinated by the deep state killed by an insatiable appetite for cocaine and fistfuls of lard

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

basically identical imo

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

yeah prolly :(

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

actually, it would be a little worse, since andrew breitbart would still be alive

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

guys come on I'm still poring over the Fusion GPS story

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

unfortunately, none of this matters

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 3. januar 2018 20:29 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If Bannon loses his followers it could mean a lot for senate primaries.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, January 3, 2018 7:49 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya his PAC planning to boost little trumps & moore-likes in primaries has been one of the more frightening developments for me out of all this & if the redhats divide over this i'll breathe a sigh of relief

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, 3. januar 2018 20:54 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, there's a reason Mitch McConnell is jubilant, and I'm guessing the DNC is slightly disappointed. The road to a blue senate probably got a bit harder. But Trumpism died a while back, and if Bannonism goes as well, the worst might be over. Time to sit down, make the plan to do single payer as quickly as possible in 21.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

andrew beetbort lives on in the artery-hardened hearts of a nation

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

Something tells me this isn't going to work out well for Manafort

Manafort sues Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein and the USDOJ in federal district court, alleging Mueller has overstepped his authority. pic.twitter.com/1A1iSrVXZj

— Byron Tau (@ByronTau) January 3, 2018

Moodles, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

i want bannon himself (via the mercers, are they still tight?) to primary trump

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

But Trumpism died a while back

interested in what takes you to this conclusion--the poll numbers dropping to just the die-hards?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

Heard on the radio that the Manafort thing is so totally stupid that his attorney should be fined. Prosecutors, let alone public servant prosecutors, are apparently immune from lawsuits like that, especially from a current defendant in a criminal trial.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

Trumpism itself is a byproduct of ever-increasing alienation and disenfranchisement. Without detectable material improvements in peoples' lives, it will be replaced (if, indeed, it's actually gone anywhere) with something similar or worse

Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

But Trumpism died a while back

interested in what takes you to this conclusion--the poll numbers dropping to just the die-hards?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, 3. januar 2018 21:09 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's something I began to think because of a book by a Danish theorist, analyzing Trump as an especially American gaudy form of fascism. But then everything that he wrote about had been dormant for a while. Remember back when Trump used to travel around and announce he saved American jobs all over? Yeah, he stopped doing that a while back. And then I think it finally ended when he endorsed Luther Strange and lost. It just seemed quite obvious that something else was going on, and Trump was following, rather than leading it. Bannon has tried explicitly to lead it, but he seems to be failing hard right now.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

There's no movement, just a bunch of competing chaos agents.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

and the white suburban parents & their sons on campus, casting around for their standard bearer

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

+ racism.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

BTW, the scariest thing about potential President Ivanka is that she's, like, 30, and rich as shit, so she could run again and again forever until eventually maybe she lucks into winning, like her dad.

I got in an argument with a devil's advocate minded friend about whether or not Trump deserves credit for winning. And I was like, no, the fucker got lucky, there is no sign any of his achievements were intentional, and that goes for his shitty business as well. Yeah, he made money, but he's no Warren Buffet or Carl Ichan style evil genius. The only people who admire Trump are people who look and act like his son. I can't imagine anyone serious takes him seriously.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

i don't think he made money. he inherited a fortune and went bankrupt how many times? that's the kicker our "conservative" friends never seem to figure

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

The possibility of enduring President Ivanka Trump makes me more inclined to support her dad in starting WWIII.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link

Was just reading this old Fortune article:

http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

Basically, were he an astute businessman he would be worth a lot more, a la his ostensible billionaire peers. As it is he's mostly just lazy and lucky and good at branding, which makes him about as clever a businessman as any celebrity chump with a racket, whether Dr. Phil or Deepak Chopra or whomever.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

Most con men have to hustle widows for their pension checks and don't have the benefit of millions of dollars of startup capital.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link

he's genuine affirmative action in action. how many people have made their living apologizing for donald trump and cleaning up his messes?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link

I know there's so much more to come, but this has the feel of an endgame: two allies and their respective factions turning on each other, everybody pointing fingers, dropping their coordinated "there's nothing to see here" messaging.

There's been a slight shift in how the media have been covering the story, too, in the wake of the Fusion GPS piece and the George Papadopoulos expose. The tone is less "if there was collusion" and more "how deep was the collusion." Bannon casting key players in the administration as guilty should only further fuel that.

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

Press briefing in background, a few folks seems to be openly mocking her, about it being Infrastructure Week, about the Bad Media Awards or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

Poor Goebbelina.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

the blaze is obviously nuts, but this has a ring of truth

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/01/03/commentary-steve-bannon-understands-the-truth-about-the-mueller-probe-and-the-media-still-dont

In other words, the family and business enterprises of the president of the United States owe over half a billion dollars to a financial institution that is currently under investigation by the United States Department of Justice for, among other things, allegedly laundering money for the Russian mob. Not to belabor the obvious, but the entirety of the Department of Justice reports directly to the president.

When the DOJ finishes this investigation, the result of that investigation — especially if it lets Deutsche Bank off with a slap on the wrist — will be placed under intense scrutiny.

If Democrats retake the House in 2018, the scrutiny will likely take the form of official committee investigations into Trump’s ties with Deutsche Bank that might well make impeachment politically palatable in a way that “Russian collusion” has not. And if it can be proven that Trump or his family or companies were involved, however indirectly, with the money laundering that Deutsche Bank is accused of, it’s Katy bar the door.

There’s growing evidence that Bannon is exactly right about what Mueller is doing with his probe. The bits about Russian collusion are excellent fodder for the media that is obsessed with the idea that the election was somehow taken away from Hillary Clinton unfairly.

Substantively, though, the real concern for Trump is and always has been his entanglement with the troubled bank, which is why the one actual public threat he has made to fire Mueller centered around any potential investigation into his personal or family finances.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

good ol' The Blaze. i wonder if glenn beck regrets his decision to try to pivot to the left just before the 2016 election?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

bears repeating: jim jordan (R-OH) is the worst

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

from fire and fury to fire at hillary's :(

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/fire-breaks-bill-hillary-clinton-westchester-home-article-1.3735597

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

how long til someone comes up w/a "they were burning pizzagate evidence" theory

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

'theory'

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

yeah the bleach wasn't working so they burned the emails

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

And I said "What about fire at Hillary's?"
You said "I think they were burning the files"

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

What color was the smoke?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

BREAKING : Are they destroying evidence?#QAnon #BREAKING#LockThemAllUp #DrainTheSwamp#MAGA #WednesdayWisdom #BreadCrumbs #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Pizzagate https://t.co/1X8M3BYjWU

— 🇺🇸MAGAChick🐥🇺🇸 (@michellechick79) January 3, 2018

omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

good luck usa

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

“Katy bar the door”?

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

"She Caught The Katy, And Left Me With A Mueller To Indict"

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link


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