andrew beetbort lives on in the artery-hardened hearts of a nation
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
Something tells me this isn't going to work out well for Manafort
Manafort sues Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein and the USDOJ in federal district court, alleging Mueller has overstepped his authority. pic.twitter.com/1A1iSrVXZj— Byron Tau (@ByronTau) January 3, 2018
― Moodles, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
i want bannon himself (via the mercers, are they still tight?) to primary trump
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
But Trumpism died a while back
interested in what takes you to this conclusion--the poll numbers dropping to just the die-hards?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
Heard on the radio that the Manafort thing is so totally stupid that his attorney should be fined. Prosecutors, let alone public servant prosecutors, are apparently immune from lawsuits like that, especially from a current defendant in a criminal trial.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link
Trumpism itself is a byproduct of ever-increasing alienation and disenfranchisement. Without detectable material improvements in peoples' lives, it will be replaced (if, indeed, it's actually gone anywhere) with something similar or worse
― Simon H., Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, 3. januar 2018 21:09 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's something I began to think because of a book by a Danish theorist, analyzing Trump as an especially American gaudy form of fascism. But then everything that he wrote about had been dormant for a while. Remember back when Trump used to travel around and announce he saved American jobs all over? Yeah, he stopped doing that a while back. And then I think it finally ended when he endorsed Luther Strange and lost. It just seemed quite obvious that something else was going on, and Trump was following, rather than leading it. Bannon has tried explicitly to lead it, but he seems to be failing hard right now.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
There's no movement, just a bunch of competing chaos agents.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
and the white suburban parents & their sons on campus, casting around for their standard bearer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
+ racism.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
BTW, the scariest thing about potential President Ivanka is that she's, like, 30, and rich as shit, so she could run again and again forever until eventually maybe she lucks into winning, like her dad.
I got in an argument with a devil's advocate minded friend about whether or not Trump deserves credit for winning. And I was like, no, the fucker got lucky, there is no sign any of his achievements were intentional, and that goes for his shitty business as well. Yeah, he made money, but he's no Warren Buffet or Carl Ichan style evil genius. The only people who admire Trump are people who look and act like his son. I can't imagine anyone serious takes him seriously.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link
i don't think he made money. he inherited a fortune and went bankrupt how many times? that's the kicker our "conservative" friends never seem to figure
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
The possibility of enduring President Ivanka Trump makes me more inclined to support her dad in starting WWIII.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
Was just reading this old Fortune article:
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
Basically, were he an astute businessman he would be worth a lot more, a la his ostensible billionaire peers. As it is he's mostly just lazy and lucky and good at branding, which makes him about as clever a businessman as any celebrity chump with a racket, whether Dr. Phil or Deepak Chopra or whomever.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
Most con men have to hustle widows for their pension checks and don't have the benefit of millions of dollars of startup capital.
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
he's genuine affirmative action in action. how many people have made their living apologizing for donald trump and cleaning up his messes?
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
I know there's so much more to come, but this has the feel of an endgame: two allies and their respective factions turning on each other, everybody pointing fingers, dropping their coordinated "there's nothing to see here" messaging.
There's been a slight shift in how the media have been covering the story, too, in the wake of the Fusion GPS piece and the George Papadopoulos expose. The tone is less "if there was collusion" and more "how deep was the collusion." Bannon casting key players in the administration as guilty should only further fuel that.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
Press briefing in background, a few folks seems to be openly mocking her, about it being Infrastructure Week, about the Bad Media Awards or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
Poor Goebbelina.
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
the blaze is obviously nuts, but this has a ring of truth
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/01/03/commentary-steve-bannon-understands-the-truth-about-the-mueller-probe-and-the-media-still-dont
In other words, the family and business enterprises of the president of the United States owe over half a billion dollars to a financial institution that is currently under investigation by the United States Department of Justice for, among other things, allegedly laundering money for the Russian mob. Not to belabor the obvious, but the entirety of the Department of Justice reports directly to the president.When the DOJ finishes this investigation, the result of that investigation — especially if it lets Deutsche Bank off with a slap on the wrist — will be placed under intense scrutiny.If Democrats retake the House in 2018, the scrutiny will likely take the form of official committee investigations into Trump’s ties with Deutsche Bank that might well make impeachment politically palatable in a way that “Russian collusion” has not. And if it can be proven that Trump or his family or companies were involved, however indirectly, with the money laundering that Deutsche Bank is accused of, it’s Katy bar the door.There’s growing evidence that Bannon is exactly right about what Mueller is doing with his probe. The bits about Russian collusion are excellent fodder for the media that is obsessed with the idea that the election was somehow taken away from Hillary Clinton unfairly.Substantively, though, the real concern for Trump is and always has been his entanglement with the troubled bank, which is why the one actual public threat he has made to fire Mueller centered around any potential investigation into his personal or family finances.
When the DOJ finishes this investigation, the result of that investigation — especially if it lets Deutsche Bank off with a slap on the wrist — will be placed under intense scrutiny.
If Democrats retake the House in 2018, the scrutiny will likely take the form of official committee investigations into Trump’s ties with Deutsche Bank that might well make impeachment politically palatable in a way that “Russian collusion” has not. And if it can be proven that Trump or his family or companies were involved, however indirectly, with the money laundering that Deutsche Bank is accused of, it’s Katy bar the door.
There’s growing evidence that Bannon is exactly right about what Mueller is doing with his probe. The bits about Russian collusion are excellent fodder for the media that is obsessed with the idea that the election was somehow taken away from Hillary Clinton unfairly.
Substantively, though, the real concern for Trump is and always has been his entanglement with the troubled bank, which is why the one actual public threat he has made to fire Mueller centered around any potential investigation into his personal or family finances.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
good ol' The Blaze. i wonder if glenn beck regrets his decision to try to pivot to the left just before the 2016 election?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
bears repeating: jim jordan (R-OH) is the worst
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
from fire and fury to fire at hillary's :(
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/fire-breaks-bill-hillary-clinton-westchester-home-article-1.3735597
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link
how long til someone comes up w/a "they were burning pizzagate evidence" theory
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
'theory'
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
yeah the bleach wasn't working so they burned the emails
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
And I said "What about fire at Hillary's?"You said "I think they were burning the files"
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
What color was the smoke?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link
BREAKING : Are they destroying evidence?#QAnon #BREAKING#LockThemAllUp #DrainTheSwamp#MAGA #WednesdayWisdom #BreadCrumbs #FollowTheWhiteRabbit #Pizzagate https://t.co/1X8M3BYjWU— 🇺🇸MAGAChick🐥🇺🇸 (@michellechick79) January 3, 2018
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
good luck usa
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
“Katy bar the door”?
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
"She Caught The Katy, And Left Me With A Mueller To Indict"
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
I looked up Katy Bar the Door, and it is metal as fuck:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Douglas
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
katy hodor
― gbx, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
My comedy improv teacher (30+ years ago) used "Katy, bar the door!" when he wanted to evoke archaic, rural times.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
When I'm away for a few hours and see there are 200 new answers, I think NOW WHAT? And usually, not much.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
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― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
"Morbs, bar the door!"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
morbs, dennistheperrin
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
he actually attended some of those improv classes
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
remember how less than 24 hours ago the President of the United States threatened to start a catastrophic nuclear war on Twitter
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
If the war itself was on Twitter and the tweets were nuclear-strength then he was almost right.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile...
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/367314-rosenstein-meeting-with-paul-ryan-about-russia-investigation#.Wk1ThjR0Qi0.twitter
Key bits: Rosenstein requested the meeting, Wray was invited but not seen there. Hm.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link
Elsewhere, Chuck Grassley IS Ian McKellen, sorta:
Sen. Chuck Grassley is wearing a hat in the Senate subway on his way to votes — a new look pic.twitter.com/sWvWBYjmYT— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) January 3, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
looks like an old queen
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
what stage of capitalism is it where brands imitate threats of nuclear war to sell fried chicken pic.twitter.com/Fsu8xvi8ng— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) January 3, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
an improv sketch: trump and bannon acting out the german country bench scene from my best fiend where werner laughingly recalls making up anti-werner shit talk with kinksi to help kinski's memoir all i need is love sell
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
Also seeing reports that Wray is definitely in the Rosenstein/Ryan meeting, if it's still going on.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
thanks to C. Grisso/McCain for the Taj Mahal reference btw
― deez nuts roasting on an open fire (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
The Ryan meeting is Bad, right?
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link