Star Wars 8 shit talk

mb the two of them will hook up, decide to pack the lightsabers away, and get into highbrow culture together

enjoy the dichotomy between Vader, hugely conflicted between devoted apprentice and father, throws the Emperor down the hole at great risk versus Kylo Ren, who never elevates Snoke above "great teacher," outwitting our Emperor surrogate via the insane level of hubris Snoke rides around on

and the lack of a turn, Ren just going "well, I'm supreme leader now" recreating Vader's offer to Luke and actually doing it

BB8 is is a great&cute looking thing but is basically just a poorer & more prequely cousin of r2d2 with worse noises

I shall meet you on the field at dawn, sirrah.

This is the first SW entry since the OT to feel like an actual movie, to me, rather than fan service. The Rashomon reference is particularly illustrative; yes, the original film was inspired as much by Ford and Kurosawa as by Buck Rogers, but the series has become far more insulated since then (in large part thanks to Lucas himself). Johnson has actually seen other movies, while Abrams has only seen Star Wars, and the film feels richer (if still overlong and occasionally jokey) as a result. No wonder the fanboys hate it.

i kind of agree w that

This definitely feels like the first SW movie since the first one to have some consciousness of film history, from Wings to Rashomon to The Lady from Shanghai and more.

ya some piece posted upthread made the point that the original was received as a pastiche of influences that it has, in time, generally surpassed in cultural influence--we saw "star wars" in TFA rather than (say) buck rogers

these sequels feel like jAWS 2 to Jaws

The prequels drew on their own influences, though. Mostly sword and sandals stuff.

these sequels feel like jAWS 2 to Jaws

― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, January 5, 2018 3:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well that's certainly a thing you just said

please let LG be at LG levels

As for what happens in the final film, I'm convinced Hux offs Kylo.

The actor who played Hux was easily the worst performance in the movie. I was surprised to learn afterwards that he's a big deal for some reason.

Hux is an anomaly. Top ranking officers of the bad guy affiliation tend to last between 30-80 minutes in this universe. He’s going to have more to do in the next one than being a punchline - or not. Flip a coin.

Domnhall Gleeson is a solid actor, he's doing the hammy shtick cos that's the role he fills in the universe.

nothing like that in his other movies at all

He is a god amongst actors fuiud

It would a braver man than me that sat down to watch a random selection of movies he’d been in though, and that’s not even counting Peter Rabbit.

We can forgive him as one of the Weasleys in Harry Potter - as I understand it, he just didn’t get the form posted in time that ginger actors needed to fill out to avoid it.

The only fanservice that made me roll my eyes was that tiny like 17 frame shot of a tubby ginger pilot getting blown up almost right away, so pointless.

Gleeson was good in Ex Machina playing someone he thinks is the protagonist but isn't, and isn't aware of that until too late. Not that anyone in the movie is genre-savvy, but that he continually misunderstands his role in the proceedings.

reading Bloodline now....p interesting so far!

Gleeson was good in Ex Machina playing someone he thinks is the protagonist but isn't, and isn't aware of that until too late. Not that anyone in the movie is genre-savvy, but that he continually misunderstands his role in the proceedings.

yeah domnhall’s v v good

just gonna brag for a second that i went out for a beer w LG and a pre-fame domnhall one time, in new york, after a play he'd been in. it was an "irish" pub in hell's kitchen iirc, deathly quiet, bad beer. nice guy! i think he came with us to watch the nets play another night but i can't remember now.

cool story bro

so it's true, the Irish really do all know each other

Wonder what Daniel Day Lewis as Hux would have been like.

i saw this film this weekend, it was pretty good

I implore Disney to put your blurb on the front of the Blu-ray case.

"dece" - rushomancy, ILX

I thought this was a great movie, but also a super bummer what with almost the entire known resistance being killed. I think that may have been a bigger unconscious factor in the backlash than disappointment in Luke's characterization or the antics of reactionary trolls. Not even the ending of ESB felt this bleak; the last scene with the orphan kid as a result just rings so false, this attempt to put a feel-good cap at the end of 2+ hours of desperation. IDK, maybe that's just me.

i think the movie came off unexpectedly bleaker than intended due to carrie fisher's death.

I implore Disney to put your blurb on the front of the Blu-ray case.

― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch)

they can if they want, but only if they don't fuck around with what i wrote by capitalizing it

Nominated for 4 Oscars including score. Did John Williams do anything original with it?

The score was the least interesting thing about it! Just rehashes of the typical Star Wars motifs, some other generic bits, and we only hear the best/most distinctive new music from TFA (Rey's theme), like, once.

he wove the classic Star Wars themes we all know and love into new pieces that evoke the gentle majesty of space

I do give them credit, one of the best parts of the score was woven into the trailers, which isn't something we get very often these days

I kind of wish the Rogue One trailer music, which was SW classic homage music, made it to a release

Music from the hearts of space? xp

i hate john williams and hope his ears and fingers fall off

well, he's 85, so you never know

I discovered while searching a minute ago that apparently he did music for The Post as well. 2018 must be his resurgence

It's his 51st Oscar nomination. (Seriously.) He gets one with every airkiss.

The New Yorker made a nice case for Williams' score in this article about leifmotifs--basically, mh otm

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/a-field-guide-to-the-musical-leitmotifs-of-star-wars

I was hoping for my long-awaited Cantina Band pt. 2 with the Canto Bight music. Not there yet, but it's growing on me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZqvkLupgk

I'm by no means a MST3K devotee but reading the title of that clip brought back memories

I did love hearing the music from the original movie's TIE fighter/Millennium Falcon dogfight scene used again when Chewie and Rey are dogfighting over Crait. That's one of my favorite cues from any of the movies, along with "The Asteroid Chase" from ESB.

This guy likes it too:

https://youtu.be/EH5oRJKTWuc?t=5

There’s a whole thread of these, ymmv

Rely & Kylo Ren fighting the Praetorian Guards to "Africa" by Toto pic.twitter.com/bTnC8aiWew

— you’re not alone in everything✨ Saw TLJ x4 (@rachlikesbands) January 23, 2018