Actors Are Cattle ... Voting open for the next ILX film poll of the Greatest Movie Directors of All Time! (DUE: Jan. 5, 2018)

No Hollis Frampton - I suggest we stop this now.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:00 (yesterday)

voted HF on a right in

but yeah, weird omission, nostalgia is a key film at the very least. also so many mediocre filmmakers nominated.

Think the results thread will be a lot of arguments about poptimistic votes

I wrote in one director whose omission seems p egregious to me and, looking upthread, see at least one other I prob would have voted for if they'd been on the list

(Which is kinda the argument for nominating all those mediocre filmmakers, it is useful to work from a list of all the filmmakers that are at all notable - I know I nominated ppl I had no intention of voting for but others might, & it's easy to forget even fave faves when throwing a list together)

I realised yesterday that I had forgotten to vote for Joe Dante in favour of putting in "important" & "arty" directors. But then I couldn't decide who to replace so figured I should just stick with what I sent in. But Gremlins tho.

again, I voted for one a/g director cuz c'mon, unless i've just seen something by one of em i can't remember who did what. Cinematic spinach, gimme The Iron Horse.

I agree insofar as spinach is good and full of iron

I kind of feel a bit lousy for not putting Spielberg on my ballot but I haven't liked a movie of his since "Catch Me If You Can" tbh

I regret nothing

...and i still hate eating it xxp

never considered a David Lynch vote bcz i know this crowd (also TV doesn't count)

so who's the equiv of roasted Brussels sprouts -- Sembène?

Entirely possible we mean different things when we say "a/g" of course but the stuff I'd be voting for is about bathing in texture like my aunts pozole

TV counts obv

the hell is "a/g"?

I guessed avantgarde?

TV counts obv

check the thread title, mate

and i will slap down anyone who points to DL's "18-hour movie" quote

bcz what is the Mary Tyler Moore Show besides a 90-hour expansion of Jeanne Dielman?

think I regretfully left the Lynch out because 50 I loved more

"Movie" means moving picture and applies to duel, reget, fanny & alexander, dekalog, berlin alexanderplatz, twin peaks and my ongoing youtube series where I give wedgies to people who are absurdly tightassed about whether things are filed correctly

when do we shoot? :)

TV that shows in cinemas in other countries, that's different.

Lynch didn't need TPTR to still be included in my 50. No Spielberg tho.

no Jerry Lewis OR Frank Tashlin for me tho :(

Voted for Lynch on the basis of the films, didn't actually factor in his TV work.

Everyone is entitled to their arbitrary criteria obv 🙂

as far as tetched, sui generis visionaries go, I came a lot closer to including Guy Maddin (who I'd say, like Lynch, has made two great films).

(and a bunch more that could have been made by no one else)

Yeah, I try not to buy into auteur theory too much, but distinctiveness was definitely a factor for me.

Certain of my nominations were for the lulz and/or putting enough names on the spreadsheet to get this poll underway. I never did take auteur theory seriously...until I saw the silent Hitchcocks.

I was considering voting some people who had done internet video clips.

Recently been watching some iterations of Movie-Movie: The Movie and Movie-Movie: The TV Show and I'm kind of amazed that for all the passionate detailed dissection of these things by intelligent people, how sloppy, constantly irritating and poorly directed they are.

Voted for Lynch on the basis of the films, didn't actually factor in his TV work.

I'm with the Dr, Maddin was higher on my list I think

Love your determined idiosyncrasy Robert Adam Gilmour

i look fwd to the DW Griffith fights we'll have

Noodle Vague- for the internet videos?

For all of it!

Griffith lumped in with Leni R in my "technically great but fuck you" filr

Love your determined idiosyncrasy Robert Adam Gilmour

Eric, did you get my ballot? Haven't received a confirmation yet, but also i know the voting period just ended

NV, how many Griffith films have you seen besides YOU KNOW? Equating him with Riefenstahl doesn't really make historical sense.

Sorry I was being deliberately silly. I did leave them both off on the grounds of not loving their work enough tho

Intolerance is kinda wrecked for me by the weight of its support tho

Intolerance is amazing but DWG didn't make my ballot. Nor Leni

xp was Intolerance supported by the KKK et al? Genuinely curious, I don't know the history behind that movie, or much about DWG other than what I learned in high school.

(i.e. The Birth of a Nation and its intentions/support)

sorry, i didn't mean in terms of bad people loving it, i just meant i can see it's importance but not feel personally moved

ah ok, I thought maybe DWG had the funding of the KKK or something.

save this argument for the results thread but there is nobody working in silent Hollywood who i don't respect less than the Germans from the same era

always loved this poster- i have a copy hung up in my hallway

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Intolerance_%28film%29.jpg/1200px-Intolerance_%28film%29.jpg

Way down east

OK, 35 ballots were submitted and have been counted. If you didn't get a reply, shoot me your ballot again.

Also, I'm not unveiling the results next week because I'm out of town, so if you didn't send me a ballot already, um, send me a ballot, because there's still time.

Just submitted it again, as I've had no reply...do acknowledge.

I didn't get a bounce back either.

Ah, first one went to my spam folder for some reason. Will count!