Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I was a vocal participant in the meeting, and when it was over I found myself surrounded by several Spotify executives. One said, “Blake, I just don’t think you understand, our users love our product because it’s such an amazing one.” Another added, “You have to look past just numbers, our product is so great it’s actually turning the industry around.” This went on for a while, until I finally said to one of the executives, “You keep using that word, ‘product.’ I’m not trying to be difficult, I’m really asking you: what do you think your product is?”

The executive was surprised. He stared at me blankly and said, “What do you mean? Our product is Spotify.”

There it was. It was a shocking admission to me, in earshot of everyone, and one he obviously didn’t think was an admission at all.

“No no…sorry,” I said, shaking my head in disbelief. “Your product isn’t ‘Spotify.’” He continued to stare at me. I said, “Sir, your product is music.” The emboldened musicians standing around us started laughing. The exec smiled and backed away, “Well okay, if you’re going to be like that.”

Milton Parker, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

that's not a very good article

there is a reason spotify is as successful as it is, and it's not because they sell "music" the way starbucks sells "coffee"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

obv Spotify is a product, just like the iPod was, or the record player - that it stands in a different relation to the content it provides is also obv

niels, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

it might be more like a department store. the products are produced by others, but how do you feel when you're in there? how do you discover what's available? how useful is it as a place to get stuff you knew - and stuff you didn't know you wanted? the great department stores are the best at this. there are even subsidies from the brands, who will set up their own little corners etc.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

i just kicked a spotify exec out of my meeting for calling his product an app

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

It's an awful article, written in an awful tone of voice.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

Spotify = Walmart

WilliamC, Monday, 8 January 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

“No no…sorry,” I said, shaking my giant head full of ethics knowledge in disbelief. “Your product isn’t ‘Spotify.’” He continued to stare at me in amazement. I said, “Sir, your product is music.” The emboldened musicians standing around us started laughing, high fiving, and cheering my name. The exec smiled and backed away, “Well okay, if you’re going to be like that.” He retreated, stepping on the meeting room's carpet rake so that the handle then struck his face.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

lmao

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

anyway, the last spotify complaint was about how spotify made stuff and shouldn't. in this new spotify complaint, guy is sanctimonious about spotify apparently not making stuff.

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

as if it would all be ok if they made kirkland brand trap

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 January 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

author is definitely more than a little full of himself, and the execs are rendered as cartoons. in my experience, though, these people often are walking cartoons, and allowing a rebuttal would have been a better idea than killing the original editorial.

many of you non-art zoyd & thinking plague & heldon & wadada leo smith fans will shrug, but not unrelated: http://downbeat.com/news/detail/cuneiform-records-on-hiatus-in-20181

Milton Parker, Monday, 8 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

what if... you are the product

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

(the entire internet dies of having its mind blown)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

I enjoyed the bit about the selfless starbucks executives, wondering how they can increase the market share of coffee, market penetration of coffee, push coffee into new territories...

Here comes the phantom menace (ledge), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link

i sure would like some product right about now (the funk soul brother)

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link

christ the tone of that is like those Tumblr posts that end with "and when the executive started to cry the musicians were so amazed that they all shook me by the hand and one of them gave me $100 and a new Xbox and said I could come on tour with them any time"

stet, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link

imo Spotify should follow the Netflix model and get a bunch of broken-up bands back together to record exclusive albums. The Beatles, maybe?

President Keyes, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

Or lock up some a-list podcasters / radio dudes who want to make a few bucks on a platform to augment their patreon and Merch revenue

calstars, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

Is there any way for Spotify to notify me whenever certain artists release a new track or album? I figured that following certain artists might do this somehow, but if it does, I am not seeing it.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Saturday, 13 January 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link

They used to ping you with notifications, but now it seems like the Release Radar is the best way. I follow a ton of artists and as far as I can tell, they show up in my Release Radar each Friday. I have to do the extra step of clicking on the release to find out it's a track or a full album.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

for Windows users the Toastify app may be of interest

I use it for three shortcuts:
alt+shift+enter = play/pause
alt+shift+left = previous
alt+shift+right = next

but it can do a lot more if you like

https://toastify.codeplex.com/

niels, Friday, 19 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

Why are these Spotify buttons so unresponsive? If I don't click on them from just the right position, they don't respond. If I click on the controls from a spot that would work with just about any other application or website, no luck.

Salt Lake City Motorcycle Accident Nerve Damage Lawyer (_Rudipherous_), Sunday, 21 January 2018 02:05 (six years ago) link

Some day people will be laughing their heads off at the corny Spotify playlist names and graphics (more universally than they are apparently doing now).

Salt Lake City Motorcycle Accident Nerve Damage Lawyer (_Rudipherous_), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link

more universally eh

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 21 January 2018 05:44 (six years ago) link

My account has been hacked! Received an email 1 hour ago informing me of an email address change and now I cannot access the account.

I am very afraid that whoever has hacked it will be deleting the playlists. If they are still available could a kind ilxor do a backup while I await Spotify support? My username is betamaxdk

Dammit!!!!

niels, Monday, 29 January 2018 06:31 (six years ago) link

Spotify support have responded quickly, thankfully the account is now secured

Googling the email used to hack my account led me to a very unsympathetic site that basically posts account info for hacked accounts

All I can say is fuck you willsmit372 you fucking idiot

and thank you Spotify support!

niels, Monday, 29 January 2018 07:08 (six years ago) link

and to think the idiot used my account to stream fucking ed sheeran

niels, Monday, 29 January 2018 07:11 (six years ago) link

now your spotify smells like him

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 29 January 2018 08:42 (six years ago) link

>:(

niels, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:22 (six years ago) link

I hear Sheeran junkies will do anything to get their fix

President Keyes, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

Spotify is good for listening to ILX top 77 lists!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

Will someone please buy some Doug Hream Blunt records so my Discover Weekly will stop trying to force them on me?

It's all that and limp-wristed neo-psychedelia. Which is neither new, nor remotely psychedelic.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

https://app.jqbx.fm

this can be kinda fun

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link

i just kicked a spotify exec out of my meeting for calling his product an app

― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, January 8, 2018 9:45 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

:-) glad that one reached its target

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link

I am not going to give Nelson all of the access to my account that it wants, but the link to the API documentation has me wanting to play with that a little bit more. I've been wishing for more granular searching for a long time. I don't even think you can do boolean searching combining things like label, genre, and year from within the app any more.

beard papa, Monday, 5 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

I tried label:"paper recordings" year:2017 and it seemed to work in the app.

DJI, Monday, 5 February 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know recall what I had trouble with. Glad to see it still works. This developer site is still very interesting. I don't know what I would use it for, but I definitely want to play with this.

beard papa, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

discover weekly has been really useless lately :( too much old stuff! why would i want to listen to the police

maura, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

I've been ruthlessly clicking on "I Don't Like This Artist" and my Discover has split into two versions, one that's pretty dialed in to my ambient/electronic preferences, and one that's still desperately trying to make sense of the time I played a bunch of Tom Petty songs.

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

seems like every week for the last 3 or 4 months that release radar has been giving me a new Fleetwood Mac demo. I guess that these are technically new releases, but this is not what I want from that playlist.

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

After months of training I've found Discovery to be reasonable at giving me disco-y electronica and krautrocky techno. Release Radar giving me Rolling Stones demos is egregious though.

e-woke (NotEnough), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

Thanks to Discover I now know that there is more of The "classical" music you buy from Boomkat (2010): a thread to discuss Sylvain Chauveau, Johann Johannsson, Peter Broderick, Olafur Arnalds and others than one could ever possibly hope to listen to in a lifetime.

lana del boy (ledge), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

I've been ruthlessly clicking on "I Don't Like This Artist"

never seen this, where does it come up?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

pretty sure it's a right click or a button on the individual song that gives you choices? I'll report back when I get a chance to look at home.

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link

yeah, please do; it doesn't work that way for me.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

I'm also using some older version fwiw

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link


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