CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL: THE RESULTS

in the wild: the james gang's "the bomber" on jonesy's jukebox on klos. gave me all sorts of thread nostalgia. and damn that's a well recorded and well mixed bass.

Holy shit, I didn't know this song was called "Long Train Running"! I totally thought it was "Without Love"! I am a false classic rock fan!

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:55 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Easy mistake, since the chorus is "without looooooove" and not "long train runnin'".

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:59 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yep. Like the chorus of "What a Fool Believes" is "meharderhardefarfar"

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:01 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i still laugh thinking about this

i was rereading upthread & found this hilarious tweet that Carl Agatha linked

Out on the road today/I saw a Papa Roach sticker on a Kia Sport/Little voice inside my head said/Come along Bort, my son is also named Bort.

— chris hauselt (@movingsideways) April 9, 2014

also i love rereading this thread

some dude & gr8080’s dj intros are so choice

<3 AORTA

for years I heard the lyric "I found the simple life ain't so simple" as "I found the simple life -- it's so simple!"

I like my version better...feels very authentically DLR.

― some dude, Monday, July 28, 2014 1:16 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this cracks me up every time I think about it and has made the song about 10x better

in 5 easy steps leaps

One of my favourite polls. I wrote about how the local CR station here has been undergoing a horrifying transition for the past couple of years; 10 years from now, this poll may not make sense to anyone under 30.

local Sacramento station still keeping it kiiinda real but they are adding late 80’s and 90’s stuff whuch is such a bummer

Putting aside my own biases, I just don't think you can move the idea of "classic-rock" forward in time--it makes about as much sense as taking an all doo-wop station and trying to move it into the mid-'60s and beyond. Anyone who listened to Simple Minds, or Smashing Pumpkins, or whoever in high school isn't going to start listening to a classic-rock station, and anybody who listened to a traditional CR station in high school probably isn't going to start loving Simple Minds. You're better to just take the concept right to the grave with your original audience--if nothing else, it's less embarrassing.

i agree 1000%

(Something I noticed last week: the DJ played one of those desperately wrong records in a set and he didn't ID it along with the other songs. I'm guessing some of the DJs show their own contempt that way.)

and that was HEY LOOK AT THE TIME

"Classic Alternative" is a failed terrestrial radio format, but has down well on streaming and satellite.

is "Jack" radio still a thing?

in la, we lost one of our two classic rock stations last year, but 100.3 the sound gave itself a good going-away party. after it was bought by a christian rock network, but before the format flipped, it had about two months to basically play whatever the hell it wanted 24/7 and it used the time well, playing some crazy deep classic rock cuts in between improvised station promos along the lines of "100.3 the sound - we're rocking until jesus comes."

and maybe this is a coastal thing, or just a left coast thing, but at least in la, a classic-rock format that includes boston, ac/dc, van halen, led zeppelin, nirvana, smashing pumpkins and the pixies does, and will, make sense. the last station standing here, klos, isn't all that far from that right now.

XP I think the Jack format died off, but its spirit lives on various and sundry Muzak stations, as chronicled over in CVS thread.

pumpkins/pearl jam make a certain amount of sense to me cuz me and my other alt-rock friends were discovering those bands at the same time as we was discovering classic rock. and the sonics/sentiments aren't always so different. really it's only because CR had SO walled itself off from new music for so long that it seemed wrong when they suddenly tried to update themselves.

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Tickets are $5, you can pickem up from the AORTA station or your cousin that sells w33d behind the Stop N Go.

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some pretty brutal snubs in type size there

is "Jack" radio still a thing?

Alive and well in Canada

xpost the template is a bitch to edit! so there is nothing personal intended except Billy Squier & Jethro Tull were deliberately smallifirx

"We're rocking until jesus comes"--that's great.

I'm sure the parameters do vary from station to station and region to region. Toronto's Q-107 probably "came to terms" with Nirvana 5-10 years after the fact--they would never have played them in 1991, but they quickly realized that they were a band their audience was okay with. (If anything, I think they jumped on Pearl Jam slightly earlier.) Smashing Pumpkins, that's part of the new makeover, and I guess they kind-of sort-of fit too. Simple Minds are simply egregiously wrong--they didn't play them in 1985, and they most definitely should not be playing them in 2018.

What is the difference between Jack FM and Bob FM?

"The Fox" is alive and well in my area.

Ahhh good times good times this thread

What is the difference between Jack FM and Bob FM?

― billstevejim, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:53 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"The Fox" is alive and well in my area.

― billstevejim, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 7:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In Canada, at least, generally, stations named after large carnivorous mammals tend to be closer to the 'active rock' format while stations named after common Anglo-Saxon male first names are closer to the 'adult hits' format.

100.3 the sound gave itself a good going-away party. after it was bought by a christian rock network, but before the format flipped, it had about two months to basically play whatever the hell it wanted 24/7 and it used the time well

I remember this phenomenon really well from when WQDR, the rock station in Raleigh, switched to country in the mid-80s. I was working as a lab tech & got to listen to the radio all day. Heard tons of deep cuts mixed with some of that newfangled college rock stuff. They closed out the old format with "Bitch."

Stuff I have heard on the local classic rock station in the last couple of months:
- Depeche Mode
- New Order
- Marylin Manson
- Nine Inch Nails

It was never a pure classic rock station (the popular grunge bands were played in the 90s), but this feels weird. They also do a "90s at 9" (in the 90s, they did "70s at 7"), which I'm pretty sure features a majority of songs that they never played in the 90s.

Stuff I have heard on the local classic rock station in the last couple of months:
- Depeche Mode
- New Order
- Marylin Manson
- Nine Inch Nails

Wtf?

They're definitely stretching the format. I guess it makes sense though, a lot of those bands definitely fall into the late 80s and 90s equivalent of classic rock and lots of people who are into those bands also listen to Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.

They also do a "90s at 9" (in the 90s, they did "70s at 7")

when will they play the aughts, when it comes around to that?

I guess it makes sense though, a lot of those bands definitely fall into the late 80s and 90s equivalent of classic rock and lots of people who are into those bands also listen to Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.

I could see it with Manson and NIN. Depeche Mode/New Order, though = is nothing sacred?

They also do a "90s at 9" (in the 90s, they did "70s at 7")

when will they play the aughts, when it comes around to that?

Well, I figure that starting in 2030, we're getting the "10s at 10", so it's probably going to be "00s at 9:30"

iirc radio slang for the 00s was always "Today," as in "playing your favorite songs from the 80s, 90s, and Today!" so... "Today at Today!"

Classic Rock is going through what "Oldies" radio did in the late '90s/early '00s as they phased out pre-Beatle music in favor of '70s hits up to and including Disco. I assume in many cases the situation is like it is in Houston, where the FM "Oldies" station gradually turned into a full-on Classic Rock station.

That Oldies transition wiped out a lot of huge, smash-hit artists - I've lamented before the disappearance of Three Dog Night from the airwaves. Who are the casualties of the current wave? Are they really just adding Bon Jovi and Nine Inch Nails (?!) without displacing something?

I just found out out local NPR affiliate is going to host a 1 hour classic rock throwback program dedicated to the old Sacramento station KZAP (long defunct)

starting in a couple of weeks on Sat nites :D

apparently some of their old djs are going to spin some tunes

sounds kinda cool

*our

I just checked out the Recently Played list on Q104.3 and nestled inbetween the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin there was "Blitzkreig Bop."
Have the Ramones officially become Classic Rock or is this just a NYC thing?

Who are the casualties of the current wave? Are they really just adding Bon Jovi and Nine Inch Nails (?!) without displacing something

Just spitballing here, as I haven't really listened to the local station in a while, but I think what happens is they drop the oldest stuff bar some really big songs ("Satisfaction", "Somebody to Love", "Proud Mary", stuff like that) and narrow the number of songs they play from staple artists (fewer Zep, Skynyrd, Floyd album cuts).

Ramones definitely falling into classic rock territory these days

they probably sound less out of place alongside the Nirvana songs

I still find Sex Pistols quite odd in a classic rock context. Clash much less so.

here in la, the classic rock station's afternoon dj is an actual sex pistol. he talks a lot.

Yeah in my childhood, "Oldies" was Johnny Mathis, Platters, Fats Domino, Dion, Four Seasons, Petula Clark, Beach Boys. "Classic Rock" was Zep, Who, Floyd, Hendrix, Janis, BTO, ELO, Heart, Fleetwood Mac.

Nowadays "Classic Rock" is Zep/Who/Floyd/Hendrix plus the Clash, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers. This honestly doesn't surprise me one bit, demographically speaking.

In the late 80s, my friends and I dug "Classic Rock" (Pink Floyd, Van Morrison, the Doors) PLUS what was called "College Rock" or "Alternative" or "Modern Rock" (Pixies, REM, the Cure, the Smiths, REM, OMD, Depeche Mode). Both streams of music were seen in opposition to pop and "Top 40" (which I guess was presumed to be Paula Abdul and Roxette and N'Sync or whatever).

The "best mix of the 80s, 90s, and today!" stations hadn't happened yet.

So it follows that if in 1989 you liked The Who about as much as you liked The Church, then you're a reachable demographic. You might want a radio station that plays "More than a Feeling" and then "Head Like a Hole." But you don't especially want to hear "Cold-Hearted Snake" or "Shoop."

I'm trying to think of what used to be played but isn't any more but can't think of anything specific. It definitely feels like there is less variety in the 70s music that is played these days. Still plenty of Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and (probably because this Canada) Rush though. They've probably dropped some not quite as famous stuff that would be less missed by listeners.

The other day I heard "Freebird" and felt like I hadn't heard that song in a long time.

Even though the Ramones, in 1976, were the diametrical opposite of classic-rock (and would make that clear in interviews), having them brought under the umbrella 40 years later makes some sense insofar as a) they spent the bulk of their career going on about "real" rock and roll, and how everyone had forget it except them (the one thing about them I found tiresome), and b) they revealed, in their covers album and in interviews, that their own influences included a lot of classic-rock.

Who are the casualties of the current wave? Are they really just adding Bon Jovi and Nine Inch Nails (?!) without displacing something

I also don't listen enough at the moment to say for sure, but I'm guessing a band like Cream might be an example. They seem rooted in a particular moment that's slipping (or has already slipped) away.

the doors seem like another one

As of a few years ago they were still playing Dobie Gray, but I can't speak to the status of Dobie now.

drifted away iirc