my friend defended the move by mentioning how 5 other US Presidents had no political experience.
Let's see, two of them are on most "worst Presidents" lists, one of them will make that list when his term is over, and a fourth on that list died less than halfway into his first term. Real inspiring company there.
She has a ton of positive qualities, yes, just not sure any of them qualify her for office. Just because she'd be a zillion times better than the walking abortion we have now, and because I actually like her as a person, well....that doesn't mean I want her to be President.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:49 (six years ago) link
she'd be a good chief of staff
― maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:58 (six years ago) link
as long as drs. phil and oz are banned from the white house
― maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:59 (six years ago) link
Dr Oz should be banned from living above-ground
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:59 (six years ago) link
It’s fine if Oprah’s president because nothing matters but the next nominee should be Elizabeth Warren.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:34 (six years ago) link
There needs to be a broad economic program. A rich celebrity is not the right messenger for that.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link
That matters more to me than experience. I would chamge my mind if Oprah made free public college, single payer healthcare, and a $15 minimum wage at the center of her message. But I don’t think she would.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link
I dont think anyone would :(
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link
sanders m/l already did
― Clay, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link
Right. If there was a candidate who had a program like that but could also speak to minority constituencies in a way Hillary couldn’t — part of the reason for her suppressed turnout compared to Obama — that’d be the person. Maybe it’s Oprah. I don’t think so though.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link
Political experience doesn’t matter though if the person otherwise has good judgment. They would have advisors to execute their program. The problem with Trump is not his lack of experience, it’s that he is a malevolent person who can’t think coherently.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link
He felt women understood him. Or, the kind of women he liked — positive-outlook, can-do, loyal women, who also looked good — understood him. Everybody who successfully worked for him understood that there was always a subtext of his needs and personal tics that had to be scrupulously attended to; in this, he was not all that different from other highly successful figures, just more so. It would be hard to imagine someone who expected a greater awareness of and more catering to his peculiar whims, rhythms, prejudices, and often inchoate desires. He needed special — extra special — handling. Women, he explained to one friend with something like self-awareness, generally got this more precisely than men. In particular, women who self-selected themselves as tolerant of or oblivious to or amused by or steeled against his casual misogyny and constant sexual subtext — which was somehow, incongruously and often jarringly, matched with paternal regard — got this.
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
I had three exchanges today w/ people reflexively positing Oprah v. Trump as inevitable binary, "yeah but she'd be way better than Trump"
America fuck you
― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
I mean, maybe we’re just going to have celebrity presidents from now on. Hope not.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link
The Rock 2028
Let's go
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link
can you smell what the rock is nominating
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link
i'd vote for oprah but i already have a car
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link
seriously though i hate to be contrarian of the day but i would vote for oprah a thousand times over another craggy-faced, personality-free old white man with impeccable credentials and well-thought-out policy positions. that's not america anymore.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:21 (six years ago) link
you might just get your chance to vote
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:25 (six years ago) link
for a craggy faced man
against a craggy faced man
sorry.
seriously though i hate to be contrarian of the day
you're not, you're dope of the day
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:20 (six years ago) link
you're not, you're dope
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:24 (six years ago) link
aw
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link
catching up for the day.
1: karl qft:
i have no idea what oprah's politics are (which you'd think would affect her chances of becoming president, but no, it doesn't actually matter much)
2: hoos qft:
"you are so lucky that i gave you that privilege" is making me boggle in a way that i thought i'd become immune to in the last year
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:32 (six years ago) link
like oprah being president sounds okay if the extent of your politics is "woke facebook" but where does she stand on, say, Israel?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
"you get a capital and you get a capital and you..."
― Evan, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 05:38 (six years ago) link
can't wait to see which youtube celebrity runs in 2024 and which claymation adult swim character runs against him in 2028
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:10 (six years ago) link
lol like there's gonna be a 2024
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:14 (six years ago) link
Overly Attached Girlfriend in 2024!
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link
Meanwhile, down at a certain big football game in Atlanta:
Welcome to Atlanta @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/5e6vnW9fey— Metro Atlanta DSA 🌹 (@MetroATLDSA) January 8, 2018
But there’s a message there for everyone and it is that people can unite, that democracy from below can challenge oligarchy, that imprisoned migrants can be freed, that fascism can be overcome, and that equality is emancipatory pic.twitter.com/AHp8QghzBk— Metro Atlanta DSA 🌹 (@MetroATLDSA) January 9, 2018
FYI they can't show the stadium on tv because someone has FUCK TRUMP projected on it. Ha.— RICHARD WADE HOW BOUT THEM DAWGS MORGAN (@studiowade) January 9, 2018
Activist from @MetroATLDSA: "We zoomed Downtown to our favorite location for a farewell beacon [as @realDonaldTrump departed]."#NationalChampionship pic.twitter.com/xo6cGLVcoT— Sean Keenan (@ThatSeanKeenan) January 9, 2018
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:35 (six years ago) link
xphttps://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Ffa3lL5tD_33uc6D7GJjhgAAAA&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Satan/Gary 2028 - In your heart you know they're the ones.
― nickn, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:39 (six years ago) link
I've been asked what I would've done with the 'Fire and Fury' cover by some folks who think the existing cover design is a disaster and a missed opportunity, so here is what I might have done with it pic.twitter.com/xV8W3L8oYu— Edel Rodriguez (@edelstudio) January 7, 2018
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:55 (six years ago) link
i hadn't seen the real cover before: YIKES
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:57 (six years ago) link
Wow.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 08:09 (six years ago) link
in other book news:
Toronto Prof's 'Fire And Fury' Book Now A Bestseller Thanks To Donald TrumpThe 2008 book about World War II is now on three bestseller lists.-01/08/2018 15:56 EST | Updated 9 hours ago-Randall Hansen logged onto Amazon after a few glasses of wine and found that his book was a bestseller.TORONTO — A Canadian professor's 10-year-old book is back on the bestseller list and he has Donald Trump to thank for it.University of Toronto professor Randall Hansen published a book in 2008 titled "Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945.''
TORONTO — A Canadian professor's 10-year-old book is back on the bestseller list and he has Donald Trump to thank for it.
University of Toronto professor Randall Hansen published a book in 2008 titled "Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany, 1942-1945.''
― Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link
does it still count as a bestseller after all the copies are returned by the idiots who ordered them
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 10:55 (six years ago) link
have we done this yet because uh wtf
Just saw @Oprah's empowering & inspiring speech at last night’s #GoldenGlobes. Let’s all come together, women & men, & say #TIMESUP! #United https://t.co/vpxUBJnCl7— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) January 9, 2018
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 11:02 (six years ago) link
"that speech she gave was fucking dire."
I don't think she should run for President either but c'mon, that was not a dire speech.
― akm, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link
Sorry IT, but you could have stayed on the sidelines with Tiffany. Wake up to the fact that after your father, contempt will follow you for the rest of your lives.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 11:51 (six years ago) link
She could redeem herself if she really wanted to by leaving the admin and becoming a critic of her father
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 11:55 (six years ago) link
nah she'll wait until he's dead before she makes that pivot
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link
just think of all those lovely 'ivanka trump's road to redemption' headlines
Lol you’re right, that’s definitely what will happen.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link
It must be hard when your loyalties are divided between the lady who introduced you to Steinbeck and the father who openly wants to have sex with you.
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link
Oprah hates paying taxes, she's said, so there'd be continuity
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link
OOBRHA WINFREDY FOR PRESIDETN
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link
"like oprah being president sounds okay if the extent of your politics is "woke facebook" but where does she stand on, say, Israel?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses)"
i mean, why would this matter? the main thing about having non-politicians for president is that they are more than ordinarily subsceptible to being manipulated by the people around them. in terms of america as a global leader this is obviously a terrible fucking idea, but a late julio-claudian presidency would be improved by not having the worst people in america fighting with each other to decide policy - and i do believe that oprah, if she runs as a democratic, would attract a better class of narcissistic manipulators.
trying to bring back in america where voters make rational decisions motivated by policy and facts is a fool's errand because that america never existed. the most important thing the democratic party needs to learn is to never run an uncharismatic candidate for president again.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
Trump was convinced to run and secretly financed by Oprah, who knew that a brief Trump presidency would be enough to get a sizable portion of the skeptical voting public to break down and desperately implore, 'help us, Oprah Winfrey, you're our only hope.'
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
lmao I sometimes mistake myself for hopeless or cynical and then I read ILX again and remind myself there are greater depths to plumb xp
― Simon H., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link