US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

Yeah, I mean if we're honestly discussing the prospect (and god knows, we might as well prepare ourselves for the day that it's more than a wild hypothetical), Oprah has shown very poor judgment wrt the people whose careers she's launched.

With the way things are shaping up it seems quite likely that there will be Dem majorities in every branch in 2020, and that things should therefore be able to function quite well. It seems like a good year for a competent candidate with big ideas, compared to 2016, where the job of any Dem president would just have been to stave off the GOP lunatics and hope the chaos died down / stuff the courts. Which is again why no-idea Hillary would have been perfect, sigh. Oprah would probably have been a better choice then, though.

cultural shadow cabinet taking shape

Nice phrase, and it'll piss off white people

watched Kendrick last night, he didn't veer off script did he? played the hits, etc.

I hate to take the bait by taking any of this seriously uhh didn't oprah give poisonous hucksters like Dr. Phil and Oz careers?

― Simon H.

oh yes, she's grossly incompetent when it comes to evidence-based medicine. considering a good chunk of my job involves combating medical quackery, which is hard enough as it is, oprah as president would almost certainly make my professional life way, way more difficult.

but if she can go on tv and convince america that anybody who thinks poor children with cancer deserve to die is a bad and wrong person, it's worth it.

there are no good billionaires is basically how i break it down to an extent

― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara)

there are no good people. the sooner we collectively accept that the better a chance we have.

rusho if you really believe that why do you care about anything

because my values are not based around dividing the world into "good people" and "bad people"

yes i know i directly used the phrase "bad and wrong person" two posts ago, oh fuck it i can't express moral nuance on the internet, i'll see y'all next month

delusional donald divides us

p sure nuance is illegal on the internet

but if she can go on tv and convince america that anybody who thinks poor children with cancer deserve to die is a bad and wrong person, it's worth it.

yeah she should go on tv and convince people that poor children with cancer should be treated with homeopathy instead

no-idea Hillary

Oh god can we please not keep saying this? You don't have to like her or her politics, but it is utterly false to say she had no policies on offer other than being non-Trump. There were, and are, hundreds and hundreds of pages of stuff.

yeah she should go on tv and convince people that poor children with cancer should be treated with homeopathy instead

― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara)

baby steps, bizarro. baby steps.

look i know we all like to have fun here on ilx but srsly there is no reality where a genuine answer to our current political problems is putting more billionaires in charge

the fact that billionaires can exist at all is one of the most serious problems at the heart of the system

Oh god can we please not keep saying this? You don't have to like her or her politics, but it is utterly false to say she had no policies on offer other than being non-Trump. There were, and are, hundreds and hundreds of pages of stuff.

― and she could see an earmuff factory (Ye Mad Puffin), 9. januar 2018 16:09 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In her own description of the campaign, she admits that she didn't run on big ideas because they would have been impossible to enact, and that this probably was a mistake. I agree, she had a lot of good policies, that speech in Harlem is still inspiring, but it's not wrong that she ran on being a caretaker. Which of course is all that any Dem candidate could have hoped for, so it continues to be a plus in my book.

bizarro otm as per usual. We need to just hold off on presidential elections altogether until Bezos crosses the next threshold and we can elect the trillionaire president we so desperately need.

FOR ME TO POOP ON.

I'm just under zero illusions that this is a genie we can easily put back into the bottle at this point. I think the sad fact is that the Dems either back someone with real name recognition in 2020 or they hand Trump the opportunity of an easy win against like Tim Kaine (look for his book, What Happened Now!! sometime in late 2021).

DACA meeting at the White House today with a wacky cast of characters--from Dems ready to shutdown to force a DACA deal in Dec to, uh, Stephen "World's Oldest High School Senior" Miller

trying not to get my hopes up

when stephen was in egypt land, 'let my stephen go'

they hand Trump the opportunity of an easy win against like Tim Kaine

who?

our players:

President Trump
chief of staff John Kelly
DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen
policy adviser Stephen Miller
legislative affairs director Marc Short
Senate Republicans: Sens. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), James Lankford (R-Okla.), David Perdue (R-Ga.), Thom Tillis (R-N.C.)
Senate Democrats: Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), Jon Tester (D-Mont.)
House Republicans: House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), Michael McCaul (R-Texas)
House Democrats: Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), and Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.)

real row of murderers there...

regulators just rejected Trump/Perry's coal plant bailout. it ain't gonna save the world, but i'll take it.

nice

I am running for the U.S. Senate from the Great State of Arizona, for one unwavering reason: to support the agenda and policies of President Donald Trump in his mission to Make America Great Again. https://t.co/ANppBdDOtp

— Joe Arpaio (@RealSheriffJoe) January 9, 2018

hoo boy

Possible he splits the #MAGA vote and takes more votes from Ward than McSally. Still, things are generally going badly for Republicans in Arizona, which should probably rate as "leans Democratic" rather than "tossup" in this sort of political environment. https://t.co/6oekudu6V3

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 9, 2018

oh fuck off joe

Please let Trump openly support Arpaio's election, please let Trump openly support Arpaio's election...

I was crossing my fingers behind my back the whole time I gave my 'support' Losin' Joe during his campaign. Sad!

luv2run for senate at 85 years old

yeah i mean i should just resign myself to Always The Worst Outcome but i really dont think arpaio is gonna manage it and yes, trump supporting him would be a good thing

Arpaio will come out in favor of slavery surely

the final page of that letter from the wolff's lawyers is great

after seeing Wolff on Colbert I kinda doubt he's actually got tapes, but one can hope. why not just release them?

He pretty much completely dodged the question about releasing the tapes during his Today Show interview.

He pretty much directly answered it on Colbert

well tommy did write the room right after seeing the talented mr. ripley

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/why-do-republicans-keep-defending-donald-trump.html

how? "why release tapes when I'm a writer?" - because the Trump administration denies everything and attacks your character, a little bit of proof would go a long way

It's that quaint belief that faithful reportage will be accepted as fact rather than that thing where the person who bellows the loudest and uses the most expletives gets to dictate the shape objective reality.

where's the tax returns?

stfu

yes sir!

lol sleeve wtf ? i got used to him saying that everyday now xp

Hi sleeve very root in these threads what can you do?

(No beefs with sleeve but he's been p vocal about his distaste for my own Trump-related posts. It's a touchy subject, I geddit.)

‘beef sleeve’ is def a euphemism for something utterly vile on urbandictionary but i’m not checkin

lol