Charlie Brooker's BLACK MIRROR

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i like black museum--the tone doesn't strike me as that different from the Hamm Christmas Special--but it def feels like a different show than Metalhead, which felt refreshingly beamed in from a different channel

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

Season was good overall. Feel like they're running out of ideas a little bit though - it's like every episode is about consciousness or being inside someone's head, a slightly different Cookie. Hang the DJ was maybe the most interesting take on that this season, but there's a lot more they could do outside of that. Yeah Metalhead was refreshing in that respect

I dunno about Black Museum... some of the ideas were cool, but the conclusion of each story is just way bleaker than it needs to be, with the shit like the keychain. There's a point at which I feel like the writer is just not a good person

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

The real reason for it, however, is I think it's there to act as an anchor to prove the Black Mirror universe exists and all the stories take place in the same setting.

I just figured the real reason for this episode (and the White Christmas one) is that they had a bunch of ideas they couldn't stretch out to episode length

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

Any trend (real or hypothetical), taken to its extreme, is the template. So in a way, Black Mirror is a Portlandia spinoff.

dunsinane in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

He's on Desert Island Discs this week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09kx840

millmeister, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link

“I lived in a field, and now I live in a tin!”

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

metalheads should have been called "strong and stable"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link

extremely happy w my decision to watch only "san junipero" from last season and "uss callister" & "metalheadz" from this season, i feel like i'm 3 for 3

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

those little tracker flechettes the robot tracker fired made me cringe! ouch

I'm not going to think too much about whether the ending, with the reveal of what they were looking for, is a definite reference to another episode. Probably.. yeah

mh, Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

I didn't enjoy Metalheads much. But it was probably the right aesthetic decision to have no backstory, no frame. Why are there robot dogs here; why are they so frickin determined, what do the robots even want, why are they so scarily good at what they do...

Every smart thing the lady does to confuse or outwit the robodog strikes me as deserving of better payoff.

mime kampf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

I'm still on the "why do stories explain too much instead of relying on a simple premise and dumping us in, in media res, like good stories should be able to" so I'm perfectly fine with how it was structured

imo the point of survival horror is undermined if we know where and how the monster comes from, the unknown is the real fear

mh, Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

I've watched about 14 episodes. I have actively enjoyed 2. The rest ended with me saying "that's it???" (even though they all seem overly long).

Yerac, Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link

awwww mia don't help your junkie boyfriend hide that body

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link

huh, in the end she is more ruthless than him.

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

well

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

we don't know yet

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

holy shit

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

ok.

wayyyyy more.

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

love this show.

treeship 2, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

'the baby...was blind!!!!'

iatee, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

Not like a baby is capable or forming coherent memories at that age but whatever, still enjoyed it.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 13 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

Um, hate to quibble or spoil but it looks like the box can get the visual feed from even the most unlikely of sources, and this becomes a crucial plot point. Presuming a sighted baby would have been no trouble.

mime kampf (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 13 January 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

not that it matters, but hamsters have notably terrible eyesight

Number None, Saturday, 13 January 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

that was not a hamster!

mh, Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

my bad

guinea pigs are pretty blind too

Number None, Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

Metalhead would have been greatly diminished by a backstory or explanation. You already know what a guard dog is.

Feel like they're running out of ideas a little bit though - it's like every episode is about consciousness or being inside someone's head [...] there's a lot more they could do outside of that.
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I just figured the real reason for this episode (and the White Christmas one) is that they had a bunch of ideas they couldn't stretch out to episode length

― Vinnie, Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:30 AM (three days ago)

the vast TVGH writing staff

Any idea why Crocodile was filmed in Iceland (by the looks of it) but everyone had an English accent?

racist

Haribo Hancock (sic), Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

had to pause and restart

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

i'm not buying mia's "crocodile tears" following her murders

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link

lol this children's recital with the 1920s mobsters

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:22 (six years ago) link

Crocodile is phenomenal.

All but the first and last are super imho.

lilcraigyboi (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

The first one was the weakest so far for sure. Going to watch metalhead tonight.

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

They really go hard on this “virtual selves” idea, and the moral chaos that would emerge from it. I find it interesting, but it’s also really outlandish and might take away from the show’s ability to respond to our actual relationship to technology and media, which it clearly intends to do.

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

watching Hang the Dj, it's reminding me of The Lobster

kinder, Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

and another current tv show

kinder, Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

uss callister ended up being my least favourite of the lot, by a long way. black museum was nicely done for what it was. ‘er indoors hated metalheads and she is wrong.

re aldo’s “what if phones but too much”: i mean yes i agree, but nearly the whole world is basically “phones” now, so it’s an ideal speculative launching pad for “but too much”. “what if consciousness but simulated by some code which is being tortured” is where it lost me.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link

"what if phones but too much" was Mallory Ortberg

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

and CB liked it so much he snuck it into last season

I only tried USS Callister but I had to bail on it, so bored of the one-dimensionally toxic dude characters

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

"what if phones but too much" was Mallory Ortberg

― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 07:09 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well bugger me

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

one-dimensionally toxic dude characters

Hrm; I thought the show was fiction

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

but you want more than one dimension in order to care about what happens to them/other people. that’s one of the reasons the whole negan thing got so stupid.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

When I was watching the first episode I was impressed at how committed Matt Damon was to the role and going full schlub -- then I saw that he was played by Landry and I was :(.

Kirk Cobain (Leee), Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

The craziest thing that happened in this season of Black Mirror is that Britishers considered Bugsy Malone well liked enough to be a school play

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

https://www.mtishows.com/bugsy-malone

a popular license for use with small children, apparently

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

Bugsy Malone is only available to license in the United States and Canada.

cannot forgive this inaccuracy in the show

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

whoops, wrong licenser

http://www.thebritishblacklist.com/tbbs-nora-denis-reviews-bugsy-malone-lyric-theatre-hammersmith/

apparently it was a popular stage attraction in 2015 in Britain?!?

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

I figured they just put in something with an uplifting end tune that they were able to easily license, but no, this musical actually had a run in recent years

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

my school did a production of Bugsy Malone in the 90s

kinder, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

I think Bugsy Malone was quite popular here. At least it seemed to be on TV a lot when I was a kid

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

It seems like it’s on at least three times over every Christmas period.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

yah Britishers love Scot Baio.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link


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