Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

http://www.france24.com/en/20180109-france-star-catherine-deneuve-defends-mens-right-chat-women-metoo-weinstein

France, a paradise for women...... (irony irony)

Ugh, Katie Roiphe.

WHAT DID I TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE SLIMY LADIES OF THE '90S COMING BACK

Can't wait for the return of the Shalit sisters.

now Stan Lee? christ

not... not Stan Lee

of all people to be accused of exploiting workers

of... of using an avuncular cover persona to take rapacious advantage of underpaid employees

who would dare suggest that Stan Lee, of all people, would abuse a position of power and privilege

that he would repeatedly belittle financial dependents with mocking language that reinforced his dominance

how could he go against a lifetime of showing care, respect and honour to people whose destiny he influenced

oh, Stan Lee. fair enough then.

lol rosemary i had the exact same thought

lol that was not a declaration of disbelief

i'm not inclined to defend stan lee about much of anything but the only source for this one so far is the daily mail, a publication so shitty that wikipedia won't even let you use it as a source

agree that it looks both vague and shifty

If you've ever looked after a 95-year-old person, they are not themselves a lot of the time. Any nursing company or home employee should understand that. And it has no relation to Lee shafting Jack Kirby (or countless others).

fuck Katie Roiphe for real

So we've got Daphne Merkin and Katie Roiphe on team "backlash." SHOCKER. We just need Caitlin Flanagan, Camille Paglia, and who am I missing here?

— Sarah Seltzer (@sarahmseltzer) January 9, 2018

Whatever you think of the list doxxing the creators would be a very, very reckless, even malicious thing to do.

would gawker have doxxed the creator? because it doesn't seem like all that different a thing from the issue that had righteous journalists resigning 30 months ago

(nb i do not support doxxing the creator)

im assuming that question is disingenuous but hell let's relitigate gawker again why don't we

I don’t think it was disingenuous. I also don’t think gawker would have doxxed them but not for principled reasons. In today’s climate they would have needed to position themselves as people who supported the list and they wouldn’t want to violate the privacy of their allies.

http://www.france24.com/en/20180109-france-star-catherine-deneuve-defends-mens-right-chat-women-metoo-weinstein

― Ludo, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 3:23 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So disgusted by this, and so very not surprised.

Gawker tended to punch up, if only slightly at times

Gawker had a fucked-up idea of 'up' (and as we don't know who the originator is, they may well have been genuinely 'up') and it would have brought a ton of clicks - they would certainly have done it if it wouldn't lose them Jezebel.

Also punching up isn't a real thing it's just your mates agreeing that it's OK when you do it

your mates agreeing that it's OK when you do it isn't a real thing

xp then why isn't ridiculing a head of state as bad as ridiculing a homeless person who asks for money? whats the logic if its not relative power

Beg a q much?

remember the lmao would like to suggest that perhaps ridiculing a head of state is not good and perhaps ridiculing a homeless person is good

I considered throwing an if in there but thought that would be insulting

XP he would not but keep trying and crying

are you going to say what you think or should we just be ignoring all these interjections entirely

new thread?

Recommend the latter XP

Non xp yes

I'm interrupting my break for one tweet only, so take a screenshot: I created the shitty men in media list. You don't need to doxx me, just head to my Instagram account, it's easy to find out where I hang out if you want to say hi.

— Lexi Alexander ‎ (@Lexialex) January 10, 2018

yeah other people have been i am spartacusing this all day

WaPo reporter Joel Achenbach once wrote that Hillary Clinton "needs a radio-controlled shock collar so that aides can zap her when she starts to get screechy."

He was just suspended for 'inappropriate workplace conduct.'

Noticing a pattern yet...?https://t.co/cLtJu3upUZ

— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) January 10, 2018

Rep. Courtney Rogers, R-Goodlettsville, said women have a "responsibility" to maintain their own decorum.
"I've had female lobbyists walk into my office dressed in such a manner that I had to fight the urge to laugh," Rogers said, adding that's been the case for "some of our younger interns."

hey, question: the #metoo #timesup nthwave feminist movement has certainly outgrown fuckin' weinstein; can/could we start a new thread that isn't predicated on that guy to discuss this stuff moving forward?

good idea!! go ahead if you feel the power move you

by gosh i think i do

Fourth Wave Feminism - General Discussion Thread

Heard about James Rosen of Fox on the way home today.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/10/577093288/top-fox-news-d-c-reporter-james-rosen-left-network-after-harassment-claims

ok so is this thread now just the dumping ground for accused rapists

not to split hairs but "fourth wave feminism" feels like a different topic than "rich and powerful men accused sexual assault discuss them here"

Bit of a headline fail TBH.

Great piece from the person who actually started the shitty media men list:

https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/moira-donegan-i-started-the-media-men-list.html

This escalated when I learned Katie Roiphe would be publishing my name in a forthcoming piece in Harper’s magazine. In early December, Roiphe had emailed me to ask if I wanted to comment for a Harper’s story she was writing on the “feminist moment.”

Nice

Probably last TV appearance:

http://deadline.com/2018/01/james-franco-seth-meyers-take-knocks-ally-sheedy-sexual-misconduct-1202240604/

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.

ugh god that is gutwrenching
fuck

the part where she talks about suffering an injury on set shortly thereafter...fucking hell

yeah

and there’s no way he hasn’t done the same with other girls throughout his career. it’s so awful & sickening. and it’s true that he has worked consistently - he was stunt coordinator on Blade Runner 2049 ffs