Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

http://www.france24.com/en/20180109-france-star-catherine-deneuve-defends-mens-right-chat-women-metoo-weinstein

― Ludo, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 3:23 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So disgusted by this, and so very not surprised.

Gawker tended to punch up, if only slightly at times

Gawker had a fucked-up idea of 'up' (and as we don't know who the originator is, they may well have been genuinely 'up') and it would have brought a ton of clicks - they would certainly have done it if it wouldn't lose them Jezebel.

Also punching up isn't a real thing it's just your mates agreeing that it's OK when you do it

your mates agreeing that it's OK when you do it isn't a real thing

xp then why isn't ridiculing a head of state as bad as ridiculing a homeless person who asks for money? whats the logic if its not relative power

Beg a q much?

remember the lmao would like to suggest that perhaps ridiculing a head of state is not good and perhaps ridiculing a homeless person is good

I considered throwing an if in there but thought that would be insulting

XP he would not but keep trying and crying

are you going to say what you think or should we just be ignoring all these interjections entirely

new thread?

Recommend the latter XP

Non xp yes

I'm interrupting my break for one tweet only, so take a screenshot: I created the shitty men in media list. You don't need to doxx me, just head to my Instagram account, it's easy to find out where I hang out if you want to say hi.

— Lexi Alexander ‎ (@Lexialex) January 10, 2018

yeah other people have been i am spartacusing this all day

WaPo reporter Joel Achenbach once wrote that Hillary Clinton "needs a radio-controlled shock collar so that aides can zap her when she starts to get screechy."

He was just suspended for 'inappropriate workplace conduct.'

Noticing a pattern yet...?https://t.co/cLtJu3upUZ

— Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) January 10, 2018

Rep. Courtney Rogers, R-Goodlettsville, said women have a "responsibility" to maintain their own decorum.
"I've had female lobbyists walk into my office dressed in such a manner that I had to fight the urge to laugh," Rogers said, adding that's been the case for "some of our younger interns."

hey, question: the #metoo #timesup nthwave feminist movement has certainly outgrown fuckin' weinstein; can/could we start a new thread that isn't predicated on that guy to discuss this stuff moving forward?

good idea!! go ahead if you feel the power move you

by gosh i think i do

Fourth Wave Feminism - General Discussion Thread

Heard about James Rosen of Fox on the way home today.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/10/577093288/top-fox-news-d-c-reporter-james-rosen-left-network-after-harassment-claims

ok so is this thread now just the dumping ground for accused rapists

not to split hairs but "fourth wave feminism" feels like a different topic than "rich and powerful men accused sexual assault discuss them here"

Bit of a headline fail TBH.

Great piece from the person who actually started the shitty media men list:

https://www.thecut.com/2018/01/moira-donegan-i-started-the-media-men-list.html

This escalated when I learned Katie Roiphe would be publishing my name in a forthcoming piece in Harper’s magazine. In early December, Roiphe had emailed me to ask if I wanted to comment for a Harper’s story she was writing on the “feminist moment.”

Nice

Probably last TV appearance:

http://deadline.com/2018/01/james-franco-seth-meyers-take-knocks-ally-sheedy-sexual-misconduct-1202240604/

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialElizaDushku/posts/1769957739689557

When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.

ugh god that is gutwrenching
fuck

the part where she talks about suffering an injury on set shortly thereafter...fucking hell

yeah

and there’s no way he hasn’t done the same with other girls throughout his career. it’s so awful & sickening. and it’s true that he has worked consistently - he was stunt coordinator on Blade Runner 2049 ffs

fYI the 'shitty media men' list is on youtube, though you have to listen to some choad walk you through it person by person and misprounce places like "the Baffler" as "the baffier". a couple of surprising and familiar names on there to anyone on ilx.

I heard about one of them

Male Models Say Mario Testino and Bruce Weber Sexually Exploited Them

yeah ugh i read that this morning
modelling is such a cesspool for that kind of behaviour, and male modelling even more so. it’s great that they are starting to speak out, especially against such heavy hitters like Weber & Testino

Also, some good/provocative thoughts from Margaret Atwood:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/am-i-a-bad-feminist/article37591823/

margaret atwood's thing is a fucking travesty and a direct insult to the survivors of a toxic culture in Canada's in writing programs

Is that the thing she’s describing, or her article just posted?

“I went on a date with Aziz Ansari. It turned into the worst night of my life” https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

I thought the Atwood piece was fine, she’s not wrong about extremism and vigilante justice. I don’t know about the UBC situation but she didn’t attack the victim, she criticized the administration and many others’ “guilty until proven innocent” attitude.

But Aziz Ansari isn’t an 18-year-old. He’s a 34-year-old actor and comedian of global renown

I guess that's why comics' stage persona is called AN ACT?

aziz also fashions himself as a “relatable” expert on love and dating.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23453112

the elevation of comedians into experts on humanity has been pretty bad for society

golden globes really dropping the... uh... globes

maura otm. Reminds me of something Norm Macdonald said: “Calling comedians modern day philosophers must be really insulting to... modern day philosophers.”

tbf lots of modern day philosophers are also sex criminals

Comedians are good at observations but not necessarily advice

UBC did handle their inquiry poorly, but Atwood's article is misrepresenting the open letter she signed, which had zero sympathy for victims.

The following statement is from Signatory Margaret Atwood and was drafted with input and guidance from UBC Student Elaine Corden.
We’re sorry we hurt any survivor people out there by seeming lacking in empathy for your experiences. Our letter was not intended to wound you, but it seems to have done, and for that we apologize. We do not intend to discourage anyone from speaking up in future, and hope the University will put in place a workable support system. To survivors of abuse, we were, are, and will be your allies.

Sincerely,

Margaret Atwood

I really do not see an attack on the victim whatsoever.