US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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i have to admit i'm curious about how many people who saw the Hawaii alert actually heeded the warning to take shelter. there must not be too many opportunities to see how people respond when they're told by authorities that an incoming missile is real and not a drill.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

my question would be where the fuck do u expect me to take shelter

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

*shriek*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-x5KtE9mg

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

xpost In a volcano, obviously.

1) You know if Manning won the GOP would make a big deal and refuse to seat her.

2)

And this is how Democrats are negotiating with a historically unpopular president, in a midterm election year, on an issue on which they held an immense amount of leverage just a month ago.

Dems I suspect are kind of screwed here thanks to asshole's scuttling. He basically has backed them into a corner and forced them to compromise for something much shittier or force a shutdown. And the Dems know that is a huge gamble that can go either way, even if it's hung around their necks. And I do I keep hearing them say, oh, the GOP is the party in power, any shutdown would be their fault. But um no, if the GOP remains unified in favor of an unpalatable hardline bill and the Dems don't go for it, it's would be the Dem's fault.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link

regardless of who is perceived for causing the shutdown, i'm not as confident as i was even a couple years ago that the american public really cares that much about the entire issue. left-leaning voters surely care about it much more than right-leaning people. to the degree that my cynical last breaths are true, that's an advantage for republicans in this negotiation.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

republicans control the entire government. whatever 'bad things' happen are their fault. even johnny and brenda redneck get that

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

i mean do they tho

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link

they don't because no one is called that

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

jo and joe sixpack

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

If everyone in the GOP votes for something but they don't get the 5 or whatever Democratic votes they need, that is not the GOPs fault. Dems might be right, but how is that not obstructionism? I mean, I'm cool with a shutdown, but I don't think the Dems will win the messaging game.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link

if the republicans hold all the cards, they can compromise enough to get votes. if not, that's not the dems' fault

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link

If they have to compromise, then they clearly don't hold all the cards, though...

Frederik B, Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

"we don't have enough of a monopoly on power" / republicans shut down the government how many times under obama and they still can't take responsibility for jack shit

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

i really am not buying the "someone hit the wrong button" explanation. like I feel like if it was that simple to fuck up this would happen more often.

not that I Think there really was a missile that somehow got diverted, just...weird explanation

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

Maxine Waters, John Lewis, and Earl Blumenauer, are all boycotting the SOTU

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/democratic-lawmakers-boycotting-trump-state-of-the-union

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:05 (six years ago) link

their loss, they are going to miss the moment when he becomes presidential.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link

Our fearless media

@realDonaldTrump last week I told you on phone that I love you like a brother. In that spirit I ask you to apologize for your unfortunate remarks. I’m in hospital getting back surgery My skilled compassionate nurse is from #Kenya She told me how you’d hurt her family’s feelings.

— Geraldo Rivera (@GeraldoRivera) January 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

and so trump vowed to maintain his silence and to never, ever apologize - until geraldo rivera stepped forward and made a heroic request.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link

p4reene piece makes it clear that Clintonism is still steering the Dem ship

fuck this shithole country

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link

my fucking Cub Scout troop could've out-negotiated the congressional Dem leaders

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

Why the hell is Manning running against Cardin?

how's life, Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure. She won't win, but maybe she's just trying elevate a message.

akm, Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:20 (six years ago) link

Like, Cardin's a decent Senator. I've got no complaints. Go somewhere else and pull that shit.

how's life, Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

Utah?

'decent' senators can defend their records, then

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

Move, bitch

El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:37 (six years ago) link

Lol. Damn.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link

the enemy of the Security State IS my friend

blow everybody's cover everywhere (ie, die, bitches)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:55 (six years ago) link

hm

treeship 2, Sunday, 14 January 2018 02:55 (six years ago) link

Morbs, did you watch I, Tonya or something tonight?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 03:47 (six years ago) link

four silent comedy shorts

i've had it with El Spooko's bullshit

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link

is this about Chelsea Manning?

Her beyond awful experiences may or may not make her a good candidate.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link

She’s not a candidate, she’s a symbol. Glad I don’t live in whatever district she’s running in; that’s gonna be one seriously insufferable campaign. (Yes, I’ll recant if she turns out to be Danica Roem II.)

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link

she's filed for the senate race in MD

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:29 (six years ago) link

Then I know she’s not serious, and I’m all done caring. If she was running for the House I could be convinced she actually wanted to win. But a Senate run is just a grift. She’s no different than Joe Arpaio as far as I’m concerned, just milking a different bunch of suckers.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link

so many FPs, so little time

sleeve, Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link

She’s no different than Joe Arpaio as far as I’m concerned

http://i11.tinypic.com/53ucxtl.gif

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:39 (six years ago) link

must not be v concerned

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link

My sappy post from earlier made tweeted flesh:

1. I’ve never tweeted before but today felt like a good day to start.

— Gary Lee (@whoisgarylee) January 13, 2018

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 14 January 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link

woody... johnson?

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 14 January 2018 09:40 (six years ago) link

that Gary Lee thing was sweet

Nhex, Sunday, 14 January 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link

The one upside to Chelsea Manning running for office is that it really drives all the transphobic asshats out into the open.

“Inny or outty no inbetweeny,” said the person using the photo of a murder victim to further their political agenda as their profile pic. pic.twitter.com/KPjQKUiJdF

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) January 14, 2018

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

hmmmm, a symbol, you mean like the neoliberal cop Letterman just interviewed

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

This guy?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_cJ2yAvNHFE/movieposter.jpg

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

with that belt buckle no wonder Clooney's breathless

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

republicans control the entire government. whatever 'bad things' happen are their fault. even johnny and brenda redneck get that

― reggie (qualmsley)

wishful thinking sir

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I still don't get that. If the GOP has a bill they want passed to keep the government open, and they need a few Dem votes, and the Dems refuse to sign on to it in the necessary numbers, then that's totally on the Dems. They just need to own it and be righteous about it to win the message war, like they did with taxes (to some extent), where the GOP got a win that was also a potential loss. Some Dem needs to come right out and say the bill is a piece of shit, we were almost there until these assholes fucked it up, and until they get their shit together we refuse to play ball. They need to stress again and again (if a shutdown looms or hits) that the GOP is being derelict and irresponsible and that as soon as they step up and work together the Dems will move forward with them (whether or not they actually do).

Was thinking about Oprah this morning, and how awesome it would be if instead of focusing on president she instead launched a huge registration and GOTV effort, backed by her money, public appearances, personality push. If she can help further mobilize women and people of color - to register, to vote, to run for office - the country would be better off. And she could still run, if she wanted to.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

republicans need democratic votes because of the idiotic 2011 sequester. trump can lower his defense spending request and meet the budget cap. that's not on the democrats

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

Well, sure. And the GOP could adopt every tenet of the Dem platform and get every single Dem vote. The party in power tries to set the agenda, it's up to the minority party to decide if they want to go along or not.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link


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