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I think we've talked about this a bit. It's not that they are overpriced, adjusted for inflation. They are still a historically good value, on paper. It's just that they are priced significantly more than all other editions of the same (in some cases years old) game. I I have no problem with Nintendo double-dipping on proprietary Wii U titles that few actually played, because the console didn't sell so well. But games that have been released on every other platform, repeatedly, sometimes as an inferior port (Doom, which I'm sure still looks great on the switch), it takes some cojones to charge full price for that.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

Which is why I think it is cool that the Dark Souls people recognize this and are only charging $40.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

I still don’t think the Doom thing is a big deal. I can see it being 40 bucks in a year anyway. It’s weird to dock it points for being an inferior port because it’s running on hardware that nobody thought was even capable of handling it. It’s unique and maybe even a system seller for some people (“hey it can run PS4, XB1 level games”).

circa1916, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

My Switch was delivered today.

Zelda is amaaaaaazing.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 14 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

otm

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 14 January 2018 10:02 (six years ago) link

xbox/PS4 era has conditioned me to paying at most £30 for a game. the £50 standard for switch games stings (particularly first party nintendo games, which tend to hold their value)

||||||||, Sunday, 14 January 2018 10:42 (six years ago) link

I played too much Skyrim since Christmas and my eyes feel permanently crossed and my body feels permanently angry at me

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

was up too late playing VS. Super Mario Bros.

it's a really good port. so after they made Super Mario Bros. they made this version for the arcade and they switched it up to make it harder. there are only 4 1-UPs in the entire game (there are 10 in the NES one). the staircase in 3-1 with the turtles that you can use to do infinite lives? it's been nerfed, one of the turtles is a goomba, it no longer works.

the warp zone in level 4-2 that takes you to 8-1 in the NES version? it goes to 6-1! plus not only that but some levels are entirely new and were made specifically for this version. 6-3, 6-4, 7-2, 7-3 are all new levels that would end up re-used in the famously difficult Japanese "Super Mario Bros. 2". it's insane.

i made it to 6-3 but i kept dying and getting kicked back to 6-1. it requires really accurate jumping. highly recommended and actually kind of cool in a historical sense! it's almost Super Mario Bros. 1.5

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

mario and rabbids is fantastic and the difficulty goes up a fair bit towards the end.

jamiesummerz, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

I need to polish that off, beat the midboss of world 3 in my last session.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

yes mario rabbids is excellent and as jamiesummerz says it gets hard towards the end (but not unfairly). the opera boss is one of my fav bosses ever!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 14 January 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link

how do we feel about ARMS

||||||||, Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link

i wish i had someone nearby irl who wanted to play with me for it

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 14 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

what is the gameplay like? i imagine it is something like Punch Out with motion controls.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

it’s more of its own thing than that but it’s a good way to get a sense of whether you might enjoy it for yrself imo

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

I like ARMS a lot.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

ha! i totally slept on ARMS but I still kinda want to play it

Nhex, Monday, 15 January 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link

ARMS, like Splatoon and Rabbids, is totally a title I would try for maybe $40, but not $60.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 January 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

if only there was some kind of way to acquire second-hand goods shipped from locations near and far

some type of 'electronic bay' if u will

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link

Ok I have a boring question

What is a good case

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 15 January 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

Not this one, which I bought
https://store.nintendo.co.uk/nintendo-switch-accessory/nintendo-switch-accessory-set/11396100.html

It never quite feels like its in right, seems like it will be putting a lot of pressure on the analogue sticks, or that something will be pressing against the screen. I have no idea how they expect you to fit the joycon straps in, too - I generally just have the Switch + games. Also, I underestimated how many physical games I would buy (I have 9 so far, and it only comfortably fits 5 - I've had to double-up in the slots).

tl;dr - I, too, would like to know what is a good case!

CraigG, Monday, 15 January 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

That is great to know as I was just about to buy that!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 15 January 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

some type of 'electronic bay' if u will

Honestly, the prices aren't too awesome on eBay, either - if a game starts overpriced at $60 then $45+ for something used doesn't scan so much as a "deal," especially since a game like, for example, Splatoon 2 or ARMS I can buy new at Costco for $50. I have also read at least a couple accounts of people switching (har) cartridge stickers to scam suckers and stores.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 January 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

imo you will experience diminishing returns from buying more games. it is better to complete the games you already own to 100% and stop worrying about things you can't control, such as the price of gasoline.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

imo you will experience diminishing returns in fun trying to 100% games, usually that last 10-20% is the last 10-20% because its the stuff you dont actually want to do

ciderpress, Monday, 15 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

I think you are both right and that is generally the strategy I am pursuing. in terms of purchasing games, there are a few factors at work in my case. There are games I want to play, games that kids might like to play, games the kids are even able to play, and games we could all play. maybe they got it from me, but there is no way my kids have the patience or diligence to play something like Zelda. but at this point I do, which is why I bought it. But I'm not going to play it until I make more progress with other games. the flip side is I got stardew Valley not just because some of you recommended it, and not just because it got a lot of really positive reviews, because at least one of my kids likes Animal Crossing. But Animal Crossing is more their speed, and they got bored and or frustrated with stardew Valley, because there's so much to keep track of. Even Snipper clips, a game I bought for everyone to enjoy, they weren't so hot on it. Though it is a lot of fun. I should i guess get in the habit of taking games out from the library and trying them out.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 January 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

nintendo labo looks like it'd be amazing if you have kids

||||||||, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

super cool, like a lofi Gakken for young kids

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link

u crazy for this one nintendo
(i will buy this)

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

That's dope

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

ok holy shit that looks amazing

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

wow that looks rad

nintendo’s current purple patch brings me immense joy tbh

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link

labo's kind of a crazy idea. papercraft is always fun though

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

That looks super cool, even though I think my kids are too old for it. So how does it/will it work? They're going to sell ready to go cardboard kits?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

yeah they have two packs to start with

http://labo.nintendo.com

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

like the robot suit looks nuts, how the heck does that work

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

1. do a bunch of research online, order parts, and build a functioning robot suit
2. tape cardboard to it

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

this looks cool! I just signed up to participate in the local workshop with my littlest, hopefully we'll get picked!

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

very pumped about this

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link

Looks gimmicky, but it does make me think I that I should get a switch.

calstars, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

wonder how well it holds up.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

this.... this is pretty crazy. i love how crazy Nintendo is.

apparently the cardboard kits themselves will be optional and the patterns can be printed on other material. no doubt folks will be 3d printing robots and pianos for this

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

so yeah the patterns will be free. so if you end up ruining a piece of cardboard then just buy a new cardboard box for $1.99 and spend 15 minutes or so to cut out new patterns. sounds like there is some foam board and string involved too but again, nothing you can't find in the craft section for under $5

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link

The Toy-Con all make use of the main Switch console and Joy-Con in unique ways. The most basic creation is the Toy-Con RC Car (which is actually a remote-controlled bug-like creature not entirely dissimilar in concept to the Hexbug Nano range of toys) and this takes around 10 minutes to make and uses the HD Rumble of two Joy-Con to move around the room; you control the action with the Switch touchscreen and you can even view the world through the right-hand Joy-Con's IR camera, sending the bug on secret missions inside unexplored nooks and crannies. Outside of that the potential for competitive play is obvious; one of the demonstrations we took part in was a sumo battle where the last bug inside the circle wins.

At the other end of the scale there's the aforementioned piano, which is utterly, utterly ingenious. Everything is made from cardboard, right down to the keys which use folded flaps to spring back into place when pressed. The Joy-Con slots into the back, with its IR camera pointed at a small slot just above the rear of the keys. When one is pressed, it pops into view through the slot and reveals small strip of reflective tape - the camera picks this up and plays the relevant note. The same visual trick is used to change the tone of the keyboard, adjust the pinch, record patterns and much more besides; you can even use the slot on the top of the piano to insert a cut-out (created by yourself) which changes the sound of a keypress based on the shape of cardboard.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/hands_on_the_future_of_gaming_is_cardboard_thanks_to_nintendo_labo

you mean you can make your waveforms by using scissors and cardboard? insane

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

The piano looks fun to play with for ...10 minutes? A one or one and a half octave range, ehh... does it support polyphony?

calstars, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link

ha, that's more or less what my girl said and i think it misses the point. you're not buying a cardboard piano, you're buying an experience! A NINTENDO EXPERIENCE!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link

i dont think polyphony is possible. it sounds like it supports sequencing though so id imagine you can probably layer multiple patterns to that effect. seems more like a diy synth than a for-real keyboard

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link

It uses a camera. Polyphony is def possible.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:59 (six years ago) link

We'll have to wait until I try it to know for sure

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 18 January 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link


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