Mr. Biagini, Mr. Joe Biagini: The 2017 Toronto Blue Jays

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i think they ought to trade him now. he's a great player but he's also 32, and whoever signs him as a free agent is going to be paying for age 33-whatever. he also happens to play vlad jr's position.

zips projects the jays winning 83 games and being the first team out of the playoffs (albeit five games behind the second-wildcard angels). that's pretty good and certainly within the margin of error, so it would be hard to just punt on 2018. but if they could get a decent return on donaldson i think it still would be worth it.

on a completely different note: http://toronto.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2018/01/11/doug-ault-and-the-triumph-of-joy

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

wow at all the snow on the field in that video!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

sometimes I'm astonished at what teams will part with at the deadline for a rental, partial-season player. tho the market for a 3b would be more limited than OF or P, i still like their odds of getting a good return, should they move him in August.

that, and knowing what i know about Jays (non-hardcore) fans – dealing him in the offseason would cause a minor revolt. would be a much easier sell if they're having a repeat of 2017.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:29 (six years ago) link

Will have to read that Doug Ault piece. I was sitting in Mr. Lightfoot's grade 11 history class, with three or four of us listening to a transistor radio (with his okay).

clemenza, Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link

All of last year's great teams had, and still have, a lot of depth. The Jays don't have much depth, especially on offense. They might luck into a WC spot if everything goes right, but that doesn't happen most years.

If there was ever a year for throwing in the towel, it's this year. Trade Donaldson, get Sanchez healthy again, commit to Stroman, get in on next year's historically great batch of free agents, and get Vlad and Dante Jrs ready. We could have a kick ass team in 2019-2020. Instead they'll hedge their bets and fall behind teams that stuck to their plan all along.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 14 January 2018 09:01 (six years ago) link

I don’t think they’ll be able to spend much until Martin and Tulo are gone in 20/21

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

As I see it there is three teams that will fight for the wild card spot: Twins, Angels and Jays. That's a low amount of odds to get in a one play-off game against either the Red Sox and the Yankees. It does not seem really worth it.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

IT IS WORTH IT WE HAVE SO LITTLE HERE!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

Also maybe I should do a new thread...

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

I wonder if we could have gotten McCutchen. The two guys San Francisco gave up look pretty good. Obviously, I wouldn't want the Jays to give up Jesus or Godot.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

They did... signed Granderson.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 02:55 (six years ago) link

They've plugged the 25 HR/.220 hole left by Bautista.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link

Sooner or later the Jays front office is going to learn that every cheap player they sign on a flier doesn't always pan out.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link

But it might take another ten years of mediocrity for that to happen.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 08:55 (six years ago) link


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