the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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The former Ukip leader told the Observer that he was becoming increasingly worried that the Leave camp had stopped fighting their corner, leaving a well-funded and organised Remain operation free to influence the political and public debate without challenge.

The former Ukip leader told the Observer that he was becoming increasingly worried that his entire raison d'etre was becoming forgotten - that is, that we pay attention to him - and has decided that we need to go back to pre-EU-referendum days in order that he can assert his relevance in public life and be on the news and appear on Question Time every other week.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

you got what you wanted nigel

now fucking do one you cunt

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:02 (six years ago) link

i don't think he did though.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

Henry Bolton has about three months left as leader of UKIP imo and i can’t see Farage staying away from the job forever.

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/bolton-girlfriend-suspended-for-racist-158472/

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 14 January 2018 09:33 (six years ago) link

Girlfriend is a racist I know I know it's serious

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link

I think Farage might decide he would be better served in his mission, not tethered to the dead-weight of a sinking corpse. But never completely write off waning far-right parties, I suppose.

It's funny how the Conservative party get so coy and defensive about their low membership, or allegedly low because counting members is apparently a very complex matter. Lol, Brandon Lewis was losing his shit, even with Marr giving him the kid gloves and frilly bonnet treatment.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:10 (six years ago) link

woke up on the settee this morning to the grizzly sight of Marr hoving into view and you should have seen me shift across the room to find the remote

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:13 (six years ago) link

you might also want to avoid Churchill: Blood, Sweat and Oil Paint then!

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

Oh and that leaked dvdscr of the fucking Churchill movie with Gary Oldman. What a fucking joke!

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

when u think abt it the church hill film is like eu negotations

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link

Oldman's makeup is so good you almost can't see Churchill's complete cuntiness

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:43 (six years ago) link

he is high-5ing a black dude on the tube. None of this "mongrel Magpie nation" type shit from this Churchill.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link

Meades on Boris

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/capital-offences-boris-johnson

a phrase for the ages: "leaving aside [...] the emergence of Joanna Lumley as an urban theorist"

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

Membership may be low calz but it's quality not quantity

actual state of young tories pic.twitter.com/vrPItG0S0h

— Grotesque Reactionary (@spacecommunism) January 12, 2018

very stabbable gaius (wins), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, check out the fucking bow mond wi' owl's nest!

"In those days, the young apprentice liar was only a rapier scar short of the full Heydrich"

love this guy so much!

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link

That Meades was some tonic

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

the last para of it is :o :o :o

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link

Absolutely. Everyone was raving over the Stewart Lee character demolition of Young, earlier. I thought it was weak as piss tbh. Now Meades on the other hand, he isn't satisfied with basic shooting fish exercises. He's operating at a much deeper level.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

Conservative Home (the home of conservatism) have published some amazing stuff this week. In addition to the newly-announced JRM podcast, there’s an old repost by James Cleverly saying the Tories need to replicate the success of Candy Crush in recruiting new members (it didn’t make much sense reading) and finally a post about how the Tories need to do more to attract BAME voters. Reaction to that btl is, “interesting”. The piece also cited a NS article where the Tories were quoted as saying they need to “maximise the white vote”. What were they doing before if not that?!

gyac, Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

Let's not lose sight of the fact that, following the last election, 'young people' in Toryland is effectively anyone under 47. Looking forward to them coming up with a social media campaign that simultaneously appeals to an 18 year old and a 45 year old.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 January 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

The Tories membership numbers are worrying because the current membership are hugely in favour of a far right, hard Brexit supporting leader and of a direction for the party that will turn off more moderate voters. The numbers also mean their ground game will never be able to approach Labour’s, even if you factor out Momentum. Going further to the right will alienate many of the moderate Tories who are or were pro-Europe, but making noises about centrism anger the stalwarts.

gyac, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link

What is preventing the One-Nation wing from attempting their own version of Momentum?

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

If the numbers are as low as they are rumoured to be, taking on the headcases wouldn't exactly be an insurmountable challenge.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link

you've forgotten Activate UK already?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

of course not, but that wasn't a concerted effort to recruit moderates was it?

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

it was, as well as being a joke, blatantly targeting the almost non-existent right of centre amongst the youth.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:19 (six years ago) link

there's no real comradely spirit in conservatism, nor any need for a support network. no sense of working together for the greater good and there's no real initiative or even desire to recruit new members. they are in it only through self-interest. it would be like binding together with the ultimate goal being "more for me" - the end defeats the means (what's the word I'm looking for?)

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

You'd think the idea of the party heading into existential crisis and electoral defeat might concentrate a few heads with an eye on the future. But yeah, that the Tories are mostly a bunch of selfish nihilistic amoral cunts matches my prejudices against them.

calzino, Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link

you've forgotten Activate UK already?

Yes.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 January 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link

So are Carillon a Tory money vehicle, a NuLab money vehicle or does it even matter at this stage

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:36 (six years ago) link

What's the difference?

I have been through 3 redundancies in the past when much smaller construction companies folded, there will be a shitload of minor creditors that will get taken down with this one. Not that I give a flying fuck tbh!

calzino, Monday, 15 January 2018 08:45 (six years ago) link

same thing isn't it?

I assume they've lost a lot of PFI money which is largely a Brownite thing but we live in a glorious consensus economy so

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

love is a lie, folks

UKIP leader Henry Bolton says he has ended his relationship with his girlfriend after she reportedly made racist comments about Meghan Markle.

He said their romance was "obviously quite incompatible" with his role as party leader but he had no intention of resigning.

Jo Marney had sent texts saying black people were ugly and Prince Harry's fiancee would "taint" the Royal Family.

Mr Bolton said it was against UKIP's constitution "to be racist in any way."

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:30 (six years ago) link

well you wouldn't want to be racist in any old way, would you

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:32 (six years ago) link

Saw him dump her live on the BBC this morning, seemed a bit harsh, sure they'll have a laugh about it later and make up with some hot monoracial sex

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:39 (six years ago) link

not like i care what happens to these twits but dumping her in favour of his political career seems like nagl

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

particularly since his political career is likely to last for, at most, eight weeks

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link

never make mind henry, there are plenty of other fash in the sea

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:51 (six years ago) link

"and make up with some hot monoracial sex"

fucking hell, need a "progressive eugenics" intervention here - before some diabolical creature is squeezed out!

calzino, Monday, 15 January 2018 09:53 (six years ago) link

make

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:53 (six years ago) link

xp obv

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link

... the best part of breakin' up is when you're makin' up

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

twp but the p doesn't stand for Pele

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:06 (six years ago) link

god I'm never gonna get to be in charge of ruining universities at this rate

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:07 (six years ago) link

not with that attitude buddy

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link

You'd think the idea of the party heading into existential crisis and electoral defeat might concentrate a few heads with an eye on the future

One or two, eg the otherwise pretty dimwitted Sajid Javid, appear to have had some kind of Damascene conversion over the last few months, but generally it looks like the Conservative Party has taken a long long at the situation and concluded that everyone under 40 in this country voted Labour because they were stupid. The Toby Young thing was just a case in point, a disastrous misreading of a changing mood that only served to further alienate the voters they'll need in the future.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:36 (six years ago) link

yeah but that one Labour guy said kill Tories so it's 1-1

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:51 (six years ago) link

everyone under 40 in this country voted Labour because they were stupid

that was my reason for voting labour tbf

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 10:53 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTlHc0YWAAA1Lr0.jpg

more like Eddie Izzn't, innit?

calzino, Monday, 15 January 2018 11:57 (six years ago) link

centrist dad of the year, now he's a wanker

coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 11:58 (six years ago) link


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