Googling 'Simon Le Bon shirt off' will get you LOTS of examples of him posing topless for 1980s pop mags.
― Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Monday, 15 January 2018 12:00 (six years ago) link
Good discussion, and, yeah, I'd wondered how Years & Years fit; to my ears they do it right.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link
probably worth noting that halsey's newest single is a terrible duet with her gross boyfriend g-eazy called "him and i"
― maura, Monday, 15 January 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
they couldn't even get the grammar right!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
RIGHT???
― maura, Monday, 15 January 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
who did it better: halsey or zooey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_%26_Him
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 15 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
Troye will be on SNL!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
i guess i read troye less as like... part of the "sanitized white gay into the mainstream" conspiracy and more as part of the "let's figure out how to upstream youtubers into mainstream pop culture" conspiracy. there's some crossover b/w those two things (connor franta etc) but frankly i'm more concerned about the second one personally & as such my interest in the "my my my" video is just noting what it might look like when a vlogger really tries to assert himself as society's very traditional understanding of a pop star. i find the video pretty clumsy and hard to watch, he's trying to sell it so hard but needs more practice. but i'm sure for the intended audience it works.
the other thing is that for all the praise about queer representation yada yada whatever i find it funny that troye and the guys in this video (who fwiw are styled acutely well) don't ever touch each other. the men kind of dance in place in the shadows, hovering around troye but never interacting with him. if they were caged the scene would represent a zoo, where foreign species can gaze at each other with interest but no danger. small step for queer kind and all that but i think there you really get a sense for how calculated this all is -- we can expose this audience to shirtless slightly older men, but there can be no touching -- and so i understand where the cynicism would start to creep in.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 January 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
yeah, the ultra-cynical take on this is "Jake/Logan Paul with good production"
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
I've decided I won't ever make another video without a shot of me sucking dick in it
Frankly
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
*at the climactic moment of The Riverbed, a thought bubble appears above the protagonist's head*
― #TeamHailing (imago), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
yo this song sucks
― billstevejim, Monday, 15 January 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
Johnny Gill, about whom there are questions about his private life too, already released the superior "My, My, My."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
i love that song! (johnny gill's.) the growling and ad libs!
lol omg i didn't know that halsey and g-eazy were dating, how awful
― dyl, Monday, 15 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
A lot of girls I know are thrilled by the video clip for the Troye song. Whereas with all the hype I was surprised by how tentative it then seemed.
I wonder if maybe the way the clip presents a younger, relatively androgynous-looking Troye implicitly objectifying older, rougher-looking dudes who do not much but lurk suggestively without shirts in the background suggests a dynamic that - while incredibly familiar within gay culture, particularly gay clubbing culture, and particularly-particularly over the last five years or so - feels more novel if yr notion of male objectification is effectively split between boy-band twink and, I dunno, Daniel Craig as James Bond emerging out of the sea or something.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
Sivan appeals to the sort of woman like the one I met a decade ago who boasted about how many gay boys were her friends.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
Hmm I don't know how true that general archetype is these days, at least in my world of gay-friendly straight people - the kind of women i'm thinking of would not just have more gay male friends than straight male friends but would move in circles where that is totally unremarkable (literally - it would not occur to anyone to remark on it).
The separation really comes down to how people intersect with gay ~culture~ rather than gay guys per se - you can have brunch with a dude every Saturday morning and be pretty close to him while being effectively ignorant of his Saturday night habit of going to parties wearing a jockstrap and harness.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link
that's my life!
As for your first paragraph: it's a musty archetype for sure; the mid 2000s were the last time when a gay man would even allow himself to be subjected to this tokenism.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ay4S61byZo
i like this one more, the synths are gorgeous
― ufo, Sunday, 21 January 2018 06:19 (six years ago) link
Fucking hell, this is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrMAfMbZOmg
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
Sivan is the weakest part of this song
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
His voice is too wan.
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
man do I dig "Bloom."
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that song really grew on me.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
Also in me, etc.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
HO
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
Just for you.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
Dance To This is really excellent, would have been right at home on the last xx album
My My My is the weakest of the tracks released so far and it's still pretty good so I've got very high hopes for this album
― ufo, Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link
The video was released today -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhxhNIQBKJI
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link
I find the song to be very slight -- pleasant, but barely there -- but guess it's just not my style
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link
"bloom" almost made me feel bad about the thread title. almost.
― dyl, Friday, 20 July 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link
"Bloom" is his best single.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 July 2018 05:51 (five years ago) link
the whole album is pretty good, doesn't blow me away but a very solid and enjoyable pop album
― ufo, Thursday, 30 August 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
"animal" is a good song but it's a little hard to buy it coming from him
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
He's better singing about plums and quoting Smiths songs
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
I am an animal with you
a chinchilla
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
I still don't understand how "Dance to This" got such a tepid reception
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 31 August 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link
I...like this album a lot.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 August 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Dance to This is one of my favourite singles this year and I love its "Pass This On"-rip video too
― ufo, Saturday, 1 September 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link
plot twist
this album is good
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:39 (five years ago) link
the singles really don't stand out as singles to me but w/in the context of the album they work much better... the final 3 songs are pretty killer
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 September 2018 05:40 (five years ago) link
not a dud-free album but definitely good! i like "seventeen" a lot and "bloom" is reaching that territory for me where it can plunge me right into bliss or melancholy alike (cf "teenage dream" the song)
― dyl, Sunday, 2 September 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LniYWYmNXiM
new single isn't a big pop banger or anything but i really like it
― ufo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
I like it a lot too, works very well in these times, in a (thankfully) roundabout way.Also, it’s tempting to hear this as “take your cellphone”.
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
the outro switchup is great
― ufo, Friday, 3 April 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it could go on for much longer. I’m almost hearing an amapiano remix in my head.
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 April 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
this song is weird and great
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link
troye sivan "my my my!take yourself home" -- 'one of the first great songs of this young-ish year' or overpraised twink mediocritywhat??
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
New EP out yesterday, it's pretty good all the way through but I must highlight the follow-up single to the video posted above
"Easy" is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCHqIhiFmEY
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
That's good.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
Is there something missing about this video? Makes me feel more comfortable to show off my own chicken legs but aside from that I'm... not gonna watch it a second time
― Preach The Crapen (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 04:46 (six months ago) link
Really digging this thing after walking, exercising, and driving to it for a week.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:03 (six months ago) link
I am taking a break from grading papers -- one of my students wrote about the rejection of hedonism in "Got Me Started" (he was describing hedonism and I was like...there's a word for that :)
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link