Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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I think it's "let's not fear offensiveness so much that it trumps other more important goals" vs "we have offensive goals"

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

and the parts i think i understand suggest they’ve been reading a parody Chelsea account or something

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

on *some* issues of course "both" "sides" are the fucking same, Nerdstrom, or did I dream Nancy Pelosi and Paul Ryan marching in lockstep on FISA 702?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

Nerdstrom's posts are all The Dems Are Practically Perfect In Every Way

"anti Trump" is the absurdly minimal requirement for Dem rank-and-file strokeoffs these days

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

No I’ve criticized Dems.

I get that she’s trying to own one of the worst people who had ever lived here but this is downplaying racism in a kind of gross way.

"oh no, racism and hatred are bad m'kay, don't do it, m'kay" 😳 we can do better 😎🌈💕 #WeGotThis https://t.co/jQrq3yXpKB

— Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea) August 12, 2017

This isn’t great either.

*ahem* seem to remember your contempt when you signed off on all those FISA warrants for surveillance of a military prisoner 😉🌈💕 #WeGotThis https://t.co/FoaU5pB6mR

— Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea) August 26, 2017

Her #wecandobetter #wegotthis series is like dorm room poster level “both sides are bad” . Harder challenge is finding tweets of hers that are good.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link

how is that "both sides are bad"?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

you seem to be going out of your way to read a pretty obvious criticism of a platitudinous hillary tweet as ‘downplaying racism’

the second one seems, again, like a legit criticism of surveillance-state hypocrisy from chelsea’s own fairly unique perspective

idgi

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

for NP-approved messaging, seek out the "centrist rally" tweet I can't seem to post right now

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

That first one is definitely shitty. If your response after Charlottesville is to criticize Clinton-tweets, then you've become a caricature.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

She can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

the second one is Chelsea talking about something that was specifically and directly done to her and her circle of acquaintances

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

She could have expressed in a way that wasn’t dismissive about what Yates was addressing.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

Xpost

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

She can walk and chew gum at the same time.

― Simon H., 16. januar 2018 20:44 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously dude?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

You might want to do a quick google search to see what her most popular charlottesville tweet was

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

She could have expressed in a way that wasn’t dismissive about what Yates was addressing.


why

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

You might want to do a quick google search to see what her most popular charlottesville tweet was


yeah i was gonna say

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

The one w the picture of herself in it?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

oh, fuck off

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link

With all due respect the Hillary one is better, acknowledges the gravity/tragedy of what happened. Second is as much s platitude w added level of branding I guess.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

I mean the Chelsea one is as much of a platitudinous statement.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

"we can do better than just blandly dismissing prejudice" is not as platitudinous as...blandly dismissing prejudice, esp coming from someone who actually advocates for transformative policy changes

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

fucking love the turn this thread has taken, as we agonise over which of two chelsea manning tweets from months ago are better

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

also lol at chastising someone for putting themselves in their tweet, on twitter, that most selfless and anonymous of platforms where your name and picture are plastered on every message

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

Imagine if HRC had done that Manning tweet lol

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

what the fuck are you talking about

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

curb stomping in cedar rapids

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

imagine if hrc did 9/11, or hrc was a duck, or if hrc had screwed a homeless man’s femur to an icbm

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

The same people would love it if she did that exact same tweet I think. No one would say she was “making it about her”, probably.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

This is the dumbest argument I've helped drag on in recent memory. I'm out.

In other, actually thread-relevant news, we got two new co-ops in at work, both dudes around 21/22-ish, and I made a bet to myself that one of them would be a Chapo listener, and I was right. (I live in Toronto and I work for a company that makes accounting software.)

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link

I’m curious if there’s a Canadian Chapo yet. Michael & Us covers agitprop, Trashfuture has canadians living in the UK.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

there isn't really. I've pondered trying to do something like that but it's really a lot of work! (not as much work as, like, a real job, but more than you might think)

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

trudeau curd house

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

chapeau sap house

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

Lobaws Gord House

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

Loblaws even god damn it

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

in all seriousness can you imagine how depressing and draining it would be to keep up with the canadian politics and punditsphere with the same level of obsessiveness that chapo does for the states

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

fucking love the turn this thread has taken, as we agonise over which of two chelsea manning tweets from months ago are better

― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:03 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gentlemen you can't dirtbag left in here this is the

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

xp. i can barely leaf through a postmedia title without wanting to wail maniacally

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

id love something for canada tbh

flippy bard (Will M.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

good ref hoos

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

New movie premium ep today, costarring Brendan.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

pretty enh if you haven't seen it, which I haven't, and won't

if everyone itt sends me five canadian dollars I'll consider launching Chapo North

Simon H., Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

vaguest kickstarter ever

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

commensurate with my confidence level in the concept

Simon H., Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link

neoliberals are hosers

President Keyes, Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

Chapo watches movies so you don't have to is definitely one of my favorite kinds of chapo.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

simon i will be a guest hoser on your show

got a laurier burnin a fuckin hole in my snowpants bud, pitter patter

flippy bard (Will M.), Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link


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