Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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This is the dumbest argument I've helped drag on in recent memory. I'm out.

In other, actually thread-relevant news, we got two new co-ops in at work, both dudes around 21/22-ish, and I made a bet to myself that one of them would be a Chapo listener, and I was right. (I live in Toronto and I work for a company that makes accounting software.)

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link

I’m curious if there’s a Canadian Chapo yet. Michael & Us covers agitprop, Trashfuture has canadians living in the UK.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

there isn't really. I've pondered trying to do something like that but it's really a lot of work! (not as much work as, like, a real job, but more than you might think)

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

trudeau curd house

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

chapeau sap house

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

Lobaws Gord House

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

Loblaws even god damn it

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

in all seriousness can you imagine how depressing and draining it would be to keep up with the canadian politics and punditsphere with the same level of obsessiveness that chapo does for the states

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

fucking love the turn this thread has taken, as we agonise over which of two chelsea manning tweets from months ago are better

― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:03 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gentlemen you can't dirtbag left in here this is the

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

xp. i can barely leaf through a postmedia title without wanting to wail maniacally

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

id love something for canada tbh

flippy bard (Will M.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

good ref hoos

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

New movie premium ep today, costarring Brendan.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link

pretty enh if you haven't seen it, which I haven't, and won't

if everyone itt sends me five canadian dollars I'll consider launching Chapo North

Simon H., Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:38 (six years ago) link

vaguest kickstarter ever

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

commensurate with my confidence level in the concept

Simon H., Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link

neoliberals are hosers

President Keyes, Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

Chapo watches movies so you don't have to is definitely one of my favorite kinds of chapo.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

simon i will be a guest hoser on your show

got a laurier burnin a fuckin hole in my snowpants bud, pitter patter

flippy bard (Will M.), Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

Chapo watches movies so you don't have to is definitely one of my favorite kinds of chapo.

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:21 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i usually enjoy these episodes but i found this one a bit of a snooze personally. the film is too tepid and bland to be good to riff on maybe?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

It could have been shorter and had about three dozen fewer news jokes. Matt doing the newsman accent is just not that funny.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

Amber & Angela Nagle are on Dead Pundits Society, talking about the explosion of the DSA, Mark Fisher, subculture vs political movement, Europe’s fascists getting Americanized, etc

https://soundcloud.com/deadpundits/ep-40-naglemania-the-dirtbag-left-w-angela-nagle-and-amber-alee-frost

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:13 (six years ago) link

Nagle has been so shit of late that I don't think I could stand to listen to that

Simon H., Friday, 19 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link

Enh, I thought it was a decent episode.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 19 January 2018 04:31 (six years ago) link

yeah I agree about The Post episode being weak, I mean they were totally right, I saw the movie, but as jim said, the movie is so staid and empty they sort of run out of things to say 15 min in.

flappy bird, Friday, 19 January 2018 05:28 (six years ago) link

I thought they had some interesting analysis of how the movie jerks off the boomers vs how diminished the meaning of that moment is today, in the wake of all the shitty pro-imperial-war stuff the Post has done since.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 19 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link

lol we gonna talk about Nagl interviewing Richard Spencer, or would it be too much of a victory lap for the 'she's an asshole' cru.

I mean, giving exposure to this disgusting unrepentant fash... he's gone way down in my estimation.

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:27 (six years ago) link

didn't know she had, but i'm assuming she spoke to him to properly press him on the means by which he proposes to establish a white ethnostate, which is what her main objection to how he's usually interviews?

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:32 (six years ago) link

er, interviewed

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:32 (six years ago) link

jeez that was a mess but hopefulyl you get the gist - interviews with him never dig into the genocide which would be required to build a white ethnostate, basically

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:33 (six years ago) link

y'all thought I actually watched it??? fohhhhh

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:40 (six years ago) link

oh right i thought when you said 'we gonna talk' you meant you might be interested in talking about it, but since you haven't watched it or provided a link then i guess you just wanted to make a quick lol at a favoured punching bag's expense - my mistake obv

fwiw nagle's views on how richard spencer and how the media presents him are actually pretty otm imo, regardless of what else i might think about her work

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

ya u misconstrued me

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:44 (six years ago) link

cool

good talk bro

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 10:46 (six years ago) link

I mean, giving exposure to this disgusting unrepentant fash... he's gone way down in my estimation.

loooool

Simon H., Friday, 19 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

so, Chelsea Manning, hoo-boy

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 22 January 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link

We have no idea what Manning is doing with the alt lite. She deserves to answer that herself. Many are desperately hoping she does, soon.

But to have expected Manning’s politics to be anything but personal, messy (and modern) is ungenerous, and a dangerous failure to adapt.

— Jack Smith IV (@JackSmithIV) January 22, 2018

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 22 January 2018 05:37 (six years ago) link

The fuck does that even mean?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link

the escape room picture is pretty bad

anti Manning libs signal boosting nazis in order to try and score points has been predictable but nauseating

Simon H., Monday, 22 January 2018 05:53 (six years ago) link

I can't make heads or tails of the JSIV tweet either, folks pretzel themselves when their heroes fuck up

that said I am inclined to believe Kim kelly''s account of the cernovich event thing

Simon H., Monday, 22 January 2018 05:57 (six years ago) link

Instinctively recoiling at whatever describing someone's politics as "modern" might mean.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 22 January 2018 06:01 (six years ago) link

“anti Manning libs signal boosting nazis in order to try and score points has been predictable but nauseating”
― Simon H., Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:53

Is this is in reference to people who simply drew attention to the fact that she hung out with neo-nazis?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 22 January 2018 07:02 (six years ago) link

Is this is in reference to people who simply drew attention to the fact that she hung out with neo-nazis?

nope

Simon H., Monday, 22 January 2018 11:31 (six years ago) link

Simon, you need to explain what you mean, because it's nonsense.

Frederik B, Monday, 22 January 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link

Or I guess the way to say it is 'You deserve to answer that yourself'...

Frederik B, Monday, 22 January 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link

I'm talking in part about people like the Buzzfeed reporter who wrote about how "nice" they were to Manning, including references to them "not misgendering" her, but then not reporting on the actual content of the speeches, which were breathtakingly transphobic, as you'd imagine (there's footage on Vic Berger's TL but I'm not linking it from work). obviously I'm miffed that she was there at all but if you're using her presence to sanitize their views and/or make them more palatable figures you're doing it wrong.

this was addressed better than I expected it would be on chapo, incidentally

Simon H., Monday, 22 January 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

yeah if she went there to get "intel" or whatever it was incredibly stupid, plus of COURSE they were nice they love to show hey we're not the bad guys portrayed on TV, it was either incredibly naive or stupid (or both). no matter what she says or does about this from this point out, pictures last forever (and were worth 1000 words at least prior to brexit), that picture is so damning and people aren't going to bother to listen to whatever the explanation ends up being

also like if she's serious about actually *running for office* there's probably like approximately 1 million things she should be doing in term of her campaign than crashing a proud boys party, seems like an indication that this thing is going nowhere

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

like here's the "intel" a bunch of delusion cosplay racist fuckers were having a party

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link


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