This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

i'll bury my snout in whatever he reeks of

When your only other option seems to be a sadistic sociopath who thinks your muteness is your most attractive quality, then I suppose the scaly creature from the black lagoon might seem like a good bet for a boink. But I still wished that Sally Hawkins could get it on with someone a little less amphibious before relocating forever to the bottom of the damn ocean.

why would you write this

SAG Awards ... proving that the AFTRA merger will now just lead to straight up-and-down endorsements of whatever the Golden Globes picked.

Cast: Three Billboards
Actor: Gary Oldman
Actress: Frances McDormand
Sup. Actor: Sam Rockwell
Sup. Actress: Abuse Clown

depressing year

Yep, the dreaded Globes/guild awards slump. I should come up with a name for it. I think I shall call it: Sundance.

Well, at least there's this. The International Cinephile Society nominations. Which include the fuck outta Blade Runner.

PICTURE

A Quiet Passion
Blade Runner 2049
BPM
Call Me By Your Name
Good Time
Lady Bird
The Lost City of Z
Nocturama
On the Beach at Night Alone
Personal Shopper
Phantom Thread

DIRECTOR

Paul Thomas Anderson for Phantom Thread
Bertrand Bonello for Nocturama
Greta Gerwig for Lady Bird
James Gray for The Lost City of Z
Luca Guadagnino for Call Me by Your Name
Denis Villeneuve for Blade Runner 2049

ACTRESS

Kim Min-hee for On the Beach at Night Alone
Vicky Krieps for Phantom Thread
Cynthia Nixon for A Quiet Passion
Saoirse Ronan for Lady Bird
Kristen Stewart for Personal Shopper
Daniela Vega for A Fantastic Woman

ACTOR

Nahuel Pérez Biscayart for BPM
Timothée Chalamet for Call Me by Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis for Phantom Thread
Jean-Pierre Léaud for The Death of Louis XIV
Robert Pattinson for Good Time

SUP. ACTRESS

Juliette Binoche for Slack Bay
Amira Casar for Call Me by Your Name
Lesley Manville for Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf for Lady Bird
Sienna Miller for The Lost City of Z

SUP. ACTOR

John Lloyd Cruz for The Woman Who Left
Willem Dafoe for The Florida Project
Armie Hammer for Call Me by Your Name
Barry Keoghan for The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Michael Stuhlbarg for Call Me by Your Name
Arnaud Valois for BPM

More at their FB page: https://www.facebook.com/pg/internationalcinephilesociety/posts/

Nahuel Pérez Biscayart for BPM
Timothée Chalamet for Call Me by Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis for Phantom Thread
Jean-Pierre Léaud for The Death of Louis XIV
Robert Pattinson for Good Time

there we go

In a better world, they would be stomping Gary English Ham.

Vicky Krieps is getting gypped elsewhere for being the unknown among Phantom Thread's big three. (And also I guess her character is not ultimately someone male voters can fantasize about.)

Skandies have begun

http://enchantedmitten.blogspot.de/

Are we not doing an ILX consensus thread this year? If not, I wish we'd at least do a thread of top 10 (or whatever) lists, so I can find out what I've missed and what's worth searching for.

it's early!

Didn't happen til March last year: Guys Guys, I'm Sorry, No, There's a Mistake - The 2016 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

(And also I guess her character is not ultimately someone male voters can fantasize about.)

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

i beg to differ

I can do it again, unless there's gonna be a lot of pissing in my ear about dates and eligibility etc. I think I try to do roll out the results around Oscar time. Yays/Nays?

Yay

Avidly, avidly.

In the meantime, Pinkerton's 4 parter on Twin Peaks is essentially a round up of 2017: http://reverseshot.org/features/2417/twin_peaks_one

another Gukbe vote of confidence.

Okay, here it goes: "I cannot start my day with a confrontation" The 2017 ILX Film Poll Voting Thread - Ballots Due Sunday, March 4th at 7pm EST.

consider me pissing

ICYMI, DGA award to del Toro

second time you use that abbreviation this morning; I had to look it up

DGA?

Looks like Mexican directors gonna win Osc*rs more often than women.

The first.

Int'l Cinephile Society:

Chalamet
Krieps
Manville
Stuhlbarg
PTA

and

01. Call Me by Your Name
02. Phantom Thread
03. Personal Shopper
04. BPM
05. The Lost City of Z
06. On the Beach at Night Alone
07. Lady Bird
08. A Quiet Passion
09. Good Time
10. Nocturama
11. Blade Runner 2049

https://icsfilm.org/our-yearly-awards/2018-ics-award-winners/

01. Call Me by Your Name
02. Phantom Thread
03. Personal Shopper
04. BPM
05. The Lost City of Z
06. On the Beach at Night Alone
07. Lady Bird
08. A Quiet Passion
09. Good Time
10. Nocturama

Fixed.

yeah, at least they left off Get Out

Moments Out of Time at TPV

http://parallax-view.org/2018/02/06/moments-out-of-time-2017/

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/13/the-village-voice-film-poll/

My first!

Respectable:

Best Lead Performance:

1. Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird (121 points)

2. Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name (108 points)

3. Cynthia Nixon, A Quiet Passion (101 points)

4. Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread (86 points)

5. Kristen Stewart, Personal Shopper (85 points)

Not a lot of bites on the elephant in the room, either.

Best Director:
1. Paul Thomas Anderson, Phantom Thread (65 points)
2. Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird (52 points)
3. Jordan Peele, Get Out (51 points)
4. Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk (49 points)
5. Luca Guadagnino, Call Me by Your Name (42 points)
6. Sean Baker, The Florida Project (41 points)
7. Bertrand Bonello, Nocturama (37 points)
8. David Lynch, Twin Peaks: The Return (31 points)
9 (tie). Guillermo del Toro, The Shape of Water (22 points)
9 (tie). Dee Rees, Mudbound (22 points)

tbh this is one of the most consensus of years – I've seen the same movies pop up on everyone's lists.

It happens every year. Every detrius thread charts the progression from "everything's on the table" to "so there really were only seven or eight movies released last year, eh?"

Not seeing The Other Side of Hope enough, or BPM high enough.

OK, after 5 minutes of searching the site, I'll bite: can one see the VV ballots/full results?

And did the Indiewire poll ever come iut?

Bilge says full searchable ballots at the end of the week. (Ed didn't get a ballot, accidentally.)

lots of bilge to get through

*obligatory mary j bilge joke*

Is there any reason to suspect that Dunkirk isn't exactly what I would expect from a WWII flick by Nolan (busy yet boring action scenes, a lot of portentous dialogue, moralism delivered with sledgehammer force)?

it's better than his usual because it has almost no dialogue and the action scenes are crisp but it's like other Nolan films in that it has no reason to exist

The amount of dialogue is relatively spare. It's a somewhat unusual narrative skein, but yes a lot of (gen downbeat) war-movie tropes in a pretty package. xp

for those who saw dunkirk: does it forfeit its reason to be watched on a television; that is, should i have caught it in theaters or not at all?

this has probably been discussed ad infinitum but does anyone else think that the expanded best pic field has evaporated a lot of enthusiasm for the Academy Awards? or maybe it's something else? I recognize my own ambivalence in recent times vs previous decades but i'm sensing it elsewhere too. i don't know if the ratings reflect it, so i might be completely wrong, but i think some of the shine has been taken off.

Yes.

Which is amusing because it's their only significant improvement in a long time

for those who saw dunkirk: does it forfeit its reason to be watched on a television; that is, should i have caught it in theaters or not at all?

I watched it at home and I think the answer to this is yes

this has probably been discussed ad infinitum but does anyone else think that the expanded best pic field has evaporated a lot of enthusiasm for the Academy Awards? or maybe it's something else? I recognize my own ambivalence in recent times vs previous decades but i'm sensing it elsewhere too. i don't know if the ratings reflect it, so i might be completely wrong, but i think some of the shine has been taken off.

― omar little, T

Remember Hannah Arendt: "When all are guilty, none are."

Yeah, catch it in a theater if you can. It's been re-released to theaters where I live, which surprised me at first, but makes total sense. I hated it - we don't need any more WWII movies or any movies that depict war as anything but totally pointless and endlessly destructive - but it absolutely deserves the Best Cinematography Oscar. it's a beautiful looking movie. the sound is really good, too.

it's better than his usual because it has almost no dialogue and the action scenes are crisp but it's like other Nolan films in that it has no reason to exist

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

this is so, so otm. although i enjoyed Interstellar a lot despite the fact that it made no fucking sense

It's the editing one that it really should have a lock on.

I just had to look up the Best Editing category: Dunkirk; Baby Driver; The Shape of Water; I, Tonya; Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. yeah I mean the only competition there really is Baby Driver.