When you live with addicts or love them it’s really hard not to be furious with them though.
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
oh yeah i know that haha.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
from an economic perspective it seems kind of neoliberal, in that it's got these implicit assumptions about the inherent dignity of wage labour
when people say stuff like that, what kind of labour are they thinking of, as like the alternative to wage labour?
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
UBI, presumably
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link
feudal labour? slave labour?
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
not defending this thought just guessing
professional labour or domestic labour also not considered in the same way
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
wiki has something on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_labour
In modern mixed economies such as those of the OECD countries, it is currently the most common form of work arrangement. Although most labour is organised as per this structure, the wage work arrangements of CEOs, professional employees, and professional contract workers are sometimes conflated with class assignments, so that "wage labour" is considered to apply only to unskilled, semi-skilled or manual labour. Various studies have shown that employees generally spend 1.5 to 3 hours a day on non-work related activities.[3]
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
i don't think the idea of the dignity of (wage) labour is a distinctive feature of neoliberalism at all tho
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
is it the money that's icky? like, would labour exchange be ok in a pure barter economy, where i could tug you off for a loaf of bread or whatever? or is it the presence of a boss and the power dynamic implied? so independent sex workers selling labour is ok but not ones who work for someone else who deals them a cut
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
hand-job is at least two loaves of bread iirc
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
what kind of bread are we talking about
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
pimpernickel
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
Pumpernickel would have worked just fine.
― DJI, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
See flopson’s post
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
I did. PUMPpernickel har har...
― DJI, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
You get pointsPump vs pimp is a thinker
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
you hardly knew 'er!
― sarahell, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
(Real talk: I almost posted "cumpernickel" but stopped myself. Unnecessarily, as it turns out. Y'all went there.)
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link
Spunkernipple
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link
LADS
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
I very often don't reveal my conservative beliefs here mainly because they're p cool imo
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
-teens are bad-justin trudeau is pretty good
― flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
I would say both are good, but bad
― k3vin k., Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
ie overall their usefulness to our worldview is positive despite the occasional and high profile drawbacks
― k3vin k., Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
trudeau should visit that japanese suicide forest wearing ritual seppuku attire next
― sleepingbag, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link
-teens are bad
disagree!
the kids are alright
― the late great, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link
I also disagree
teens are, in fact, the worst
but they keep being just a little better than the last set of teens, and/or that is an important story we have to tell ourselves to imagine any hope for our species
― El Tomboto, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:48 (six years ago) link
I thought "Trudeau is good" was just a liberal as opposed to left view, not a conservative view.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 05:30 (six years ago) link
Two sides of the same coin (a loony)
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link
bc liberal party (i think flopson is referring to bc libs specifically) have quite a few former conservatives, so they're a coalition of sorts
http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/b-c-liberals-hire-12-ousted-federal-and-alberta-conservatives-which-could-give-province-a-harper-tone
they're technically centre -- to the right of ndp and left of conservatives
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 06:33 (six years ago) link
lib is the new conservative
― flopson, Monday, 26 February 2018 06:38 (six years ago) link
― flopson, Sunday, February 25, 2018 10:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's true!
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.02/article/5a8ed9e0dda4c8045a8b457b.jpg
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
love that image, going to sending it to friends for the next 6 months at least
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
well you and the rest of the world according to ctv last night
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
Is he up for reelection at some point? Because if he were an American candidate, he'd lose the next election based on that picture alone.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link
Unrelated, I've started to develop some conservative-ish views of the effects of the sexual revolution. Basically I think birth control and delayed (or deliberately avoided altogether) reproduction has contributed to society becoming more sexualized and more obsessed with sex, porn, kink, etc. I think our bodies/hormones are still telling us to impregnate and to be impregnated and the fact that it's not happening as much as it "should" is confusing us and causing stronger sexual impulses to kick in. I guess what makes me not a true conservative on this is that it's just a theory for me and not something I think we should enact any changes based on. Overall I think the positives of the sexual revolution vastly outweigh this.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
oct 2019
he was already very unpopular before this incident
― bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link
but he is likely going to win
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link
i am wasteful with paper towels. i often use them instead of cloth napkins and rags. i think maybe it doesn't matter.
― marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
(i know it matters overall, not everyone should be wasteful with paper towels, but does it matter if i, me, individually use them maaaan?
― marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
I despise select a size and will select more than one sheet even when one will suffice.
― Jeff, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:02 (six years ago) link
I will admit I'm a bad green liberal but not because I believe it's ok, but because it's just a failing of mine
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
yeah individual-consumption scolding is a bad joke at this stage, and always was a kind of trick
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
(as sanpaku was posting yesterday tho it'll be a realer thing later)
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
As scientific understanding has grown, so our world has become dehumanized. Man feels himself isolated in the cosmos, because he is no longer involved in nature and has lost his emotional "unconscious identity" with natural phenomena. These have slowly lost their symbolic implications. Thunder is no longer the voice of an angry god, nor is lightning his avenging missile. No river contains a spirit, no tree is the life principle of a man, no snake the embodiment of wisdom, no mountain cave the home of a great demon. No voices now speak to a man from stones, plants, and animals, nor does he speak to them believing they can hear. His contact with nature has gone, and with it has gone the profound emotional energy that this symbolic connection supplied.
― marcos, Thursday, 15 March 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
I sort of believe that, but I think our sense of isolation grows more out of capitalist alienation than out of science per se.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 15 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
would argue the two go hand in hand
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Thursday, 15 March 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
There's this thing called communism
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 15 March 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link