pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9244-we-are-the-pipettes/

tbh i yearn for cronut

I mean, there is a distinct difference between bands popular on alt rock radio vs bands that hit it big on AAA.

Is it splitting hairs to differentiate, say, Smashing Pumpkins and the Counting Crowd?

Counting Crows, stupid iPhone

Who is the Counting Crows of being Dan Deacon?

Mister Jobs aaand me

I mean, yes, if you narrow the pool of music listeners to a specific marketing demo of people that followed Grantland on Twitter and Tweet about how Ladybird made them cry and yearn to taste Cronut then, yes, Pitchfork is everything, slay kings

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:03 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, this isn't really right either ^

The difference between those bands and My Morning Jacket and p4k indie bands are pretty fucking minor, the only difference being that they're not immediately embraced by backseat lefsetz office warriors who think the NARRATIVE and THE CONVERSATION have any bearing on an objective financial reality.

There's also like Black Angels/Thee Oh Sees style psych bands that did/fine without P4k too

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:01 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, yes, if you narrow the pool of music listeners to a specific marketing demo of people that followed Grantland on Twitter and Tweet about how Ladybird made them cry and yearn to taste Cronut then, yes, Pitchfork is everything, slay kings

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:03 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a correct argument against the claim, made by no one ever, that p4k was omnipotent over all rock music

it seems silly to deny that they once had serious gatekeeping/tastemaking power that has significantly declined in the recent past

bullshit if anyone steps to me with some 7.6 bullshit i'm like get that garbage outta here son i only fucks with BNMs

re: Kanye, no, p4k had nothing to do with his success, if anything the perfect 10 for twisted fantasy was overcompensation, as good as that record is.

They gave him very good reviews before. You know, perhaps they just thought it was an incredible album?

actually yea you're right, I forgot about that. Late Registration was very high on their 2005 list

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/justin-timberlake-supplies/

savagely negative pitchfork reviews aren't dead, they're just thriving in the track reviews section

best new music used to result in five figure soundscan bumps.

From personal experience my old band played a local college radio show on the bill with Tapes n' Tapes the week this came out

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8314-the-loon/

remember talking to the drummer and they were pretty blown away that it happened

anyway they didn't really draw that many people that night, it was okay attended (andrew broder of fog actually headlined), but anyway their NEXT gig was suddenly opening for Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, later that summer we took over their opening gig for Futureheads they cancelled because they went to play Pitchfork Fest.

Like honestly they could maybe draw 100 people in Mpls to a small club on a good night before that review and after that they were everywhere for a while

yeah, I interviewed quite a few bnm'd bands in that period and many had similar experiences

anyone remember Thunderbirds Are Now! ? don't think they got BNM'd but they did play the first p4k fest when it was called Intonation, released an awesome album in 2005 called Justamustache, and then another in 2006, and then went quiet until last year when they put out a final single. they seemed burned by over enthusiastic press early on that quickly left them.... such a great band

yeah i remember that name but i don't know if i checked them out
man there were so many bands

i checked out CLEARLAKE because of the BNM imprimatur. i liked that album. but eventually sold it. same with the Futureheads.

man there were so many bands

otm

so weird

High Places... Tickley Feather... EAR PWR... Yeasayer...

aren't there more bands now?

or are you all saying "there were so many now-forgotten p4k bands"

yea

props to pitchfork for publishing this in 2018, re: The-Dream

The most fascinating part of Nash’s songwriting career has been his uncanny ability to write not just capably but empathetically from a woman’s perspective. He’s better at it than he is at writing songs for men (see: Beyoncé’s “Single Ladies”; Mariah’s “H.A.T.E.U.”; Kelly Rowland’s “Dirty Laundry,” a song that relives, in painful detail, a physically abusive relationship.) It’s a perspective Nash didn’t know he was capable of until he started writing songs, but in retrospect, he knows where it came from. “My mother gave birth to me when she was 19,” Nash described. “All her friends, were there at the house, talking about women problems—with men, usually. But I was just previewed to a lot of conversations and a lot of sensitive points, from a woman’s standpoint.” But his desire to understand more fully how a woman might see the world goes beyond growing up surrounded by women. “I felt like I lost my best friend, in one way,” he said of losing his mother so young. “In another way, that was the love of my life.”

with no mention of his being charged with choking and assaulting his pregnant ex

Yeah they usually manage to at least work in one uncomfortable paragraph about what we “must take into consideration” before jumping back into swoons. I was just sort of hovering over that whole review waiting for a disclaimer that never came.

https://scontent-ort2-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9a187cdc110e9a866c8efb998b1758c3/5B253835/t51.2885-15/e35/26332670_1993704127549624_5999378780555051008_n.jpg

It's a meme now.

lol

what kind of real music fan would care about a steely dan tour

none of my headlines are on here, shit meme

Yeah whoever made this could have tried harder.

how is october doing? they keep trying to tie it into the main p4k site and it is so transparent

Needs more Stranger Things headlines.

And James Franco sexual assault allegations.

"Bon Jovi are as divisive as it gets, but in a karaoke setting, “It’s My Life” has a supernatural ability to bring a room together"

how is october doing? they keep trying to tie it into the main p4k site and it is so transparent

― marcos, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:02 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc october reads like it was written by a martian assigned to cover beer

"Dylan Farrow Slams Justin Timberlake for Working With Woody Allen"

is this the 2nd longest thread on ilx?

What’s the longest?

why do I hate that artist thing facebook thread

ooooh was confused for a sec mixing up 'longest' & 'oldest'

there used to be a ILX user by the name "Ryan Pitchfork" always wondered if it was this dude

i think so?

6 Great Albums Named After Other Great Albums

And Yo La Tengo aren’t the only veteran indie rockers pulling a “call me by your name” at the moment.

wordplay!

Haha nice headline today, Katherine

was actually very surprised it got used

Iol kudos on that