Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

There is a reason you have other people read important emails.

there do not seem to be many winners in this ansari situation

appreciated that jawnita essay, have to let it sit with me some more

HLN is the channel next to CNN on cable, no? CNN Headline News?

"Ashleigh, someone who I am certain nobody under the age of 45 has heard of, I hope the 500 retweets on the single news write up made that burgundy lipstick, bad highlights, secondwave feminist has-been really relevant for a little while,"

Seriously?

A world where a putatively feminist journalist can’t see the problem in attacking another woman for her age and appearance is a world I no longer understand. And I am only 28.

there's a lot of light between 22 and 28

there do not seem to be many winners in this ansari situation

Anyone who wanted to disperse any of the momentum gained since Weinstein broke.

"I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby!"

Ms. Way's email isn't very mature.

I guess that's an understatement.

I swear, I can't believe people use "no holds barred" seriously. But she is 22 and not aware of the Hulk Hogan movie.

― Yerac, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

using it is one thing, but what is the meaning in this context.

The entire email is embarrassing but all I could picture at the end was the Hulk Hogan movie so it lent a certain ending flourish to an already terrible email.

it's not that obscure a phrase? maybe you're just really into that movie.

We need to talk about you associating a common phrase with a decades old movie

what til Yerac finds out that Pastamania dates back to Renaissance Italy :/

Ha! I think I have never heard anyone ever use that phrase non-ironically. She should've ended with Cowabunga!

Whoops that wasn't a word. I don't even know what I mean. I am so threadbare from reading about the gymnastics trial.

I think the email probably reflects the writer’s ideology just fine. She’s not young or naive she just thinks differently from people we’d usually think of as progressive. She probably sees, in Ashleigh Banfield, an image of privilege and thinks she’s “punching up” and that’s what you’re supposed to do.

The email is again indicative of Babe maybe not being a mature or credible publication for breaking stories on sexual assault, or perhaps not thinking through their material as much as their sources might require

Right. Banfield should have attacked the websote and the journalist in the first place, not “Grace” who is just someone who was mistreated (by Ansari) and then exploited (by Babe).

gotta say the burgundy lipstick burn is extremely generationally cutting

"no holds barred" is a common phrase that no one associates with hulk hogan except for you

Burgundy Lipstick Burn (feat Jeremih)

hopefully feminism can survive some dude posting the internal email squabbles among two women to Business Insider

Lol it’s true. That might be the sleaziest and most pointless reveal of this entire episode.

But i think it was Banfield who first brought those out in the open.

FWIW I had no idea what HLN was until I read the above tweet/email

ok ok guys you dont consume cable news media we get it

i would if anyone suggested it were worthwhile in any way! it's not, is it?

no

it’s just that naif “i dont even own a tv” shit that rubs me the wrong way

nevermind

forget i said anything

gtfo you guys "i've never heard of HLN" it's not new

i would if anyone suggested it were worthwhile in any way! it's not, is it?

you sound like comic book guy

holy shit that letter is so stupid

lol i knew of CNN Headline News but was unaware that they'd rebranded that channel as HLN . . . a decade ago. i suspect it will last a good while longer than babe dot net does

also the next time my cat does something bad i'm gonna call her a second-wave feminist

hahahaha

according to what we have learned from katie, fourth wave feminism = “you cant sit with us”

more than using "no holds barred" it bothers me that she used it incorrectly - you have a "no holds barred fight" it's not just a synonym for absolutely.

HLN sounds like a home shopping network (and I'm pretty sure that's what I assume it was when scanning cable guide listings)

also the next time my cat does something bad i'm gonna call her a second-wave feministfelinist

― mookieproof, Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:52 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol it’s true. That might be the sleaziest and most pointless reveal of this entire episode.

― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:00 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not rly

"If you could let Ashleigh know I said this..."

All of the continued handling of this entire Aziz episode is super upsetting in comparison to what is going on with the gymnastics trial. I didn't know a young woman had committed suicide, another woman had told her parents as a child and was repeatedly denied that it had occurred and was forced to apologize to her assailant. Numerous people were told about him and nothing happened for years and years.

Nassar is now saying it's just soooo hard to listen to all of his victims' testimonies. OH REALLY, MOTHERFUCKER?!?!?

try BEING them, piece of shit

he is a piece of shit
what's really disgusting to me are all the people who didn't believe these girls when they tried to tell
that pisses me off a lot

otm

“what about the men” is useful as a macro or micro defense, as this makes plain

"what about the men" comes from the same place as "well you know people are racist against whites too"

meaning, as a generalized sentiment coming from a place of privilege whenever the most reprehensible aspects (or any aspects tbh) of the privilege are pushed back against even slightly.

That's why I can't believe people have the nerve to heavily criticize the subject in the Babe article (nevermind the reporting problems) and why she didn't "just leave" all while they are reporting on the Nassar testimonies.

I am so glad The Root wrote that article "Men Understand Consent Like White America Understands Racism". I got into such a long discussion 2 nights ago with a young black dude who was glibbly victiming shaming that Babe article (it's slander!, like what, she was forced??? emoticon, Aziz just wanted to get some butt, he needs to work on his game) that he was blocked by friends on facebook. He just didn't get why and my friend kept making excuses for him saying he was liberal and a BLM activist. I was like, so? He literally kept making the same arguments that white people do to say they aren't racist and I just couldn't figure out a good way (me as a non-black woman) to point it out.