Pazz and Jop.

there was a “launch event” panel discussion

they got christgau, surprisingly(?)

Not with a Bangs, but with a Twitter.

Hi Katherine, Maura, did the thingers happen to mention when the results will be posted? Found Music Event etc. listings just now pretty easily, but didn't see anything about issue (or whatever we should call it now) date---seems like if it's worth a launch event, worth mentioning on site---a video coming at me or whatever.

a facebook post from another attendee indicated that the results would be up early next week.

they said monday, no idea if that means "actually monday" or "we're gonna try"

^guess it was the latter

Wow, Girlpool didn't even make the top 100.

Participation must've been low? "Damn" was the clear favorite and still won with the least points since "whokill." "Bodak Yellow" won with the least # of votes since... Quad City DJs!

spoke too soon! https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/22/pazz-jop-the-top-albums-and-singles-of-2017/

Nice to see Slowdive make the Top Ten!

is this going to be the first time in 20 years that they don't allow the results to be fully explored online? (i.e. browsing full ballots, seeing who voted for each song/album, etc.)

"allow"

Poring over ballots is the only thrill I get from P+J.

Seems like there have been times when elements gradually appeared online----but meanwhile, screw it here's mine (post y'alls!)

Albums (10 points each, listed just in the order they came to mind):

Allen Ginsberg: The Complete Songs of Innocence and Experience (Omnivore)

Jane Ira Bloom: Wild Lines: Improvising Emily Dickinson (Outline)

Algiers: The Underside of Power (Matador)

Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda:The Ecstatic Music Of Alice Coltrane Turiyasangitananda (Luaka Bop)

Harriet Tubman: Araminta (Sunnyside)

JLin: Black Origami (Planet Mu)

Jaimie Branch: Fly Or Die (International Anthem)

Les Amazones d’Afrique: Republique Amazone (Real World)

Ornette Coleman: Ornette At 12/Crisis (Real Gone)

Burnt Sugar The Arkestra Chamber: All You Zombies Dig The Luminosity (Avantgroidd)

Singles:
Willie Nelson/Tony Joe White/Leon Russell/Jamey Johnson: “God’s Problem Child” (Legacy)

Whitney Rose: “Can’t Stop Shakin’” (Six Shooter)

Arto Lindsay: “Grain By Grain” (Northern Spy)

A. Savage: “What Do I Do” (Dull Tools)

Chuck Berry: “She Still Loves You” (Duotone)

Caroline Spence: “Southern Accident” (Tone Tree)

Lee Ann Womack: “Hollywood” (ATO)

Amanda Anne Platt/Honeycutters: “Eden” (Organic/Crossroads)

Amanda Anne Platt/Honeycutters: “Learning How To Love Him”(Organic/Crossroads)

Rodney Crowell: “Life Without Susanna” (New West)

that's a good ballot imo, even tho i have minimal overlap.

Albums:
Stokley - Introducing Stokley
Gabriel Garzòn-Montano - Jardin
Syd - Fin
SZA - Ctrl
Ibeyi - Ash
Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.
Alice Coltrane - World Spirituality Classics
Bicep - Bicep
Cecile McLorin Salvant - Dreams and Daggers
Daniel Caesar - Freudian

Singles:
Dua Lipa - New Rules
Sun-EL Musician with Samthing Soweto - Akanamali
Lil Uzi Vert - XO TOUR Llif3
Vince Staples - Bagbak
Black Thought - #FREESTYLE087
Charli XCX - Boys
Migos - T-Shirt
Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - If We Were Vampires
Cam - Diane
The Black Madonna - He Is the Voice I Hear

waxahatchee in the top 10 is very surprising, that album was pleasant but fairly unremarkable and didn't seem to show up much in EOY lists at all

OK, I found my ballot (10 points for each album, and I never vote for singles):

Jaimie Branch, Fly Or Die (International Anthem)
Christian Scott, The Centennial Trilogy (Ropeadope)
Elder, Reflections Of A Floating World (Stickman)
Kamasi Washington, Harmony Of Difference (Young Turks)
Cavalera Conspiracy, Psychosis (Napalm)
Rødhåd, Anxious (Dystopian)
Immolation, Atonement (Nuclear Blast)
Prurient, Rainbow Mirror (Profound Lore)
Big K.R.I.T., 4eva Is A Mighty Long Time (Multi Alumni)
Lana Del Rey, Lust For Life (Interscope)

Any idea how many ballots were cast? I like to compare points-per-ballot figures from year to year.

I wish they'd just stop with the charade that they're still open to printing random comments. (Maybe they're there and I missed them--all I see are the two commissioned pieces.) I went back and checked if that was still part of the e-mail they send out, and indeed it is ("As always, we also welcome (i.e., encourage) comments, be they one-liners or novellas, on any and all music-related matters." That line goes back at least to 2009, the earliest one that's still in my in-box. They have eliminated "We'll publish a great deal of these -- some in print, and a great many more only online -- and pay a small fee for their use in either case" in the intervening eight years, but maybe they ought to scrap the other half too.

i just hope they get individual ballots up at some point. if anyone has a connex there, let 'em know that's the best part of this whole thing.

That too, of course--that's the bare minimum to justify its continued existence. I mean, I can't believe anybody actually cares about the results in a world with 37,000 year-end lists.

A little bummed there's no individual ballots or seemingly an ability to look past the top choices.
Here's my ballot. I don't remember how I distributed the points but the order is correct. I didn't do singles.

1. Oxbow - Thin White Duke (Hydrahead)
2. Brutus - Burst (Sargent House)
3. Chelsea Wolfe - Hiss Spun (Sargent House)
4. The Regrettes - Feel Your Feelings Fool! (Warner Brothers)
5. Idles - Brutalism (Balley)
6. Anwar Sadat - Ersatz Living (LP) (Broken World Media)
7. Wolves in the Throne Room - Thrice Woven (Artemisia Records)
8. Irreversible Entanglements - Irreversible Entanglements (International Anthem / Don Giovanni)
9. The Midnight Ghost Train - Cypress Ave. (Napalm Records)
10. Rebel Wizard - Triumph Of Gloom (Prosthetic Records)

A little surprised that the highest charting metal album was Power Trip's Nightmare Logic at #65.
One of my choices cracked the Top 100 but not one of my metal choices (The Regrettes at #79).

http://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/22/pazz-jop-top-10-albums-by-year-1971-2016/

Fantastic piece. Where else could you find such obscure information?

Ooh ballots -- happy to see these! I did one.

1. Kelela - Take Me Apart (Warp)
2. The Courtneys - II (Flying Nun)
3. Aimee Mann - Mental Illness (SuperEgo)
4. The Magnetic Fields - 50 Song Memoir (Nonesuch)
5. Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory (Def Jam)
6. Circuit Des Yeux - Reaching For Indigo (Drag City)
7. Girlpool - Powerplant (Anti-)
8. L'Rain - L’Rain (Astro Nautico)
9. Charly Bliss - Guppy (Barsuk)
10. Cornelius - Mellow Waves (Rostrum)

Spent a lot of time determining what was a single, came up with these.

1. Slowdive - Sugar for the Pill (Dead Oceans)
2. St. Vincent - Pills (Loma Vista)
3. Moses Sumney - Lonely World (Jagjaguwar)
4. Kehlani - Undercover (Atlantic)
5. Alvvays - Plimsoll Punks (Polyvinyl)
6. The Stevens - Chancer (Chapter Music)
7. Emily Haines - Legend of the Wild Horse (Last Gang)
8. Chastity Belt - Different Now (Hardly Art)
9. Lomelda - Interstate Vision (Double Double Whammy)
10. Perfume Genius - Wreath (Matador)

Very disappointed in the lack of individual ballots.

Here's mine:
Albums
1. Various Artists - Club Chai, Vol. 1 (Club Chai) 20
2. Japanese Breakfast - Soft Sounds From Another Planet (Dead Oceans) 15
3. Ty Dolla $ign - Beach House 3 (Atlantic Records) 15
4. SZA - CTRL (Top Dawg Entertainment) 10
5. Waxahatachee - Out In The Storm (Merge Records) 10
6. Lorde - Melodrama (Republic Records) 10
7. Octo Octa - Where Are We Going? (Honey Soundsystem Records) 5
8. MUNA - About U (RCA Records) 5
9. Grizzly Bear - Painted Ruins (RCA Records) 5
10. Julie Byrne - Not Even Happiness (Ba Da Bing! Records) 5

Singles
1. Slowdive - Slomo (Dead Oceans)
2. Mount Kimbie ft. King Krule - Blue Train Lines (Warp Records)
3. House Of Feelings - It’ll Cost You (Infinite Best Recordings)
4. Chief Keef - Told Y’all (Glo Gang/RBE Records)
5. Chris Jeday ft. J Balvin, Ozuna, Arcangel - Ahora Dice (Universal Music Group)
6. Avalon Emerson - One More Fluorescent Rush (Whities)
7. Hercules & Love Affair ft. Sharon Van Etten - Omnion (Big Beat Records)
8. yaeji - Full of It (GODMODE)
9. Playboi Carti ft. Lil Uzi Vert - *wokeuplikethis (AWGE/Interscope Records)
10. The Chainsmokers - Paris (Disruptor Records/Columbia Records)

Albums
Kendrick Lamar - Damn
Syd - Fin
Carly Pearce - Every Little Thing
The Ocean Party - Beauty Point
2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap Music
Kelela - Take Me Apart
Moon Diagrams - Lifetime of Love
Charlie Worsham - Beginning of Things
Chloe x Halle - The Two of Us
Milk Teddy - Time Catches Up With Milk Teddy

Songs
Kendrick Lamar ft Zacari - "LOVE"
Migos - T-Shirt
Young Thug - Safe
Joan Shelley - Wild Indifference
Sunny Sweeney - Bottle By My Bed
Playboi Carti ft. Lil Uzi Vert - Wokeuplikethis
Washington Hebrew - Ima Try
Last Leaves - The World We Had
SZA - Drew Barrymore
Cam - Diane

ALBUMS, 10 points each.

Matt Jencik - Weird Times (Hands in the Dark)
Bob Dylan - Triplicate (Columbia)
The Fun Years - Heroes of the Second Story Walk-Up (Spring Break Tapes)
Benoît Pioulard - Lignin Poise (Disques D’honore)
Ulver - The Assassination of Julius Caesar (House of Mythology)
Vattnet - Vattnet (New Damage Records)
The Angelus - There Will Be No Peace (Tofu Carnage Records)
Divide Replace - warp wrap (self released)
Biblical - The City That Always Sleeps (New Damage Records)
Eiyn Sof - Meadow Thrum (Arachnidiscs)

Christgau's definition of "post-rock" is making my brain bleed.

I think this was my ballot

ALBUMS
1. JLin, 'Black Origami'
2. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, 'The Kid'
3. Kendrick Lamar, 'Damn.'
4. Blanck Mass, 'World Eater'
5. Lanark Artefax, 'Whities 011' EP
6. Saicobab, 'Sab Se Purani Bab'
7. Songhoy Blues, 'Résistance'
8. Traxman, 'Tekvision'
9. Migos, 'Culture'
10. Chino Amobi, 'Paradiso'

SINGLES
1. Tee Grizzly, "First Day Out"
2. Kendrick Lamar, “Humble”
3. Taylor Swift, “Look What You Made Me Do”
4. Migos, “Bad and Boujee"
5. Kendrick Lamar, "DNA"
6. Tay-K, “The Race”
7. Margo Price, "Pay Gap"
8. Taylor Swift, "…Ready for It?"
9. DJ Khaled and Friends, “Wild Thoughts"
10. Pink, "What About Us"

I didn't vote this year, but with no individual ballots showing and only the top 10, my votes would have been invisible anyway. They would have been something like:

VUUR: In This Moment We Are Free - Cities
The Dark Element: The Dark Element
Ravenscry: The Invisible
Metalite: Heroes in Time
Amberian Dawn: Darkness of Eternity
Exit Eden: Rhapsodies in Black
IKINÄ: Samoista Soluista
Haloo Helsinki!: Hulluuden Highway
Ideas: Egység
Moonspell: 1755

MUNA: "Crying on the Bathroom Floor"
Dappy: "Spotlight (Acoustic)"
Dave Days: "Hurts So Good to Be Alive"
Jule Vera: "Lifeline"
Battle Beast: "Familiar Hell"
Clock Opera: "You've Got What I Need"
Force Majeure: "Church of Steam"
Ayben: "Baskan"
Bright Light Bright Light: "Running Back to You"
Perfume Genius: "Slip Away"

Top 100s, I meant. I agree that without individual ballots showing, the whole thing is close to moot. I don't think my declining to tabulate was the cause of this, although it can't have helped. Mainly the change in corporate ownership meant that they couldn't use the old database/publishing system any more, so all processes had to be recreated from scratch. Given that, I was a little surprised they went through with it at all, and not at all surprised that they stuck to just publishing the flat list. Data publishing in a blog-post world is hard.

Yeah, I remember whatever system they had ca. 2007(?) broke? I don't know if they ever updated it, but it would make some logical sense that it would not be too functional after who knows how many redesigns and CMS changes. I wouldn't blame any media company for not wanting to go through the cost in money and man hours to build/rebuild a functional list

My 20 points helped keep Paramore in the top 50 and my 15 points kept the Regrettes in the top 90. So, yay.

"publishing" the results without much comment alongside a state of the union by a septuagenarian rock critic vs not doing it at all

the accompanying cardi gif is v v bad
http://villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/VillageVoice-CardiB-MarinaEsmeraldo.gif

I emailed the person who assisted me with my login asking if they would post ballots. Will post any response I get.

christgau's essay ultimately lands on and closes with what he considers to be the political albums of the year: Mount Eerie and Randy Newman

Top 100s, I meant. I agree that without individual ballots showing, the whole thing is close to moot.

otm. I know it probably doesn't matter much to most of the readership, but as a participant, I have no idea why I would continue to vote. Not because I want to see my ballot published, but for the cross-referencing, etc.

Yeah, it's mostly about the individual ballots for me too; keep 'em coming. Losing access to the database sounds like a real good alibi, although I just now googled something I wrote in the 90s and it was still on there (still, there have indeed been enough shakeups over the years that I set up my own blogspot archive). Maybe they just don't have access to the numbers etc.
But mostly why I'm posting this: Just under the villagevoice.com search results were many more voice items at openlibrary.org, which, if you pay for it to open, apparently will present the sound recordings (sic) mentioned in reviews and in Pazz & Jops (of the 90s, anyway, which is where I was looking). I didn't spring for it, so no idea how thorough this is, or whether it works at all (didn't see the text of my 90s piece, or of the P&Js; maybe that's part of what you pay for).

I don't even remember my ballot, fwiw

dow, think about the time it would take to format/post/hyperlink like 100 ballots from scratch, let alone connect them to individual pages for each song and album.

Without a custom CMS, forget it

Even with help from a program that generates HTML for albums based off IDs, receiving and processing merely/roughly 400 albums and singles (for a simple one-page feature) is a mite arduous.

Yeah, I don't mean to imply that anyone should do this from scratch, or at all--and certainly not demanding links to all the songs ever mentioned on all the ballots of all the polls---but rather that openlibrary.org seems to be implying that they/their gigslaves have done something like this.

Did yall see this? Mostly not that surprising, but some I'd forgotten about:
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/22/pazz-jop-top-10-albums-by-year-1971-2016/?utm_source=Village+Voice+Music&utm_campaign=f5027b4451-Music+Newsletter+1%2F19%2F2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_58e5ed4fcb-f5027b4451-58804241

Coldplay!?

I was surprised by the scarcity of hip hop in the mid-90s. No Illmatic for instance. Also I didn’t know Steely Dan was so dominant in the 70s.

They published a bunch of voter comments the other day. Still no ballots though.

Also a profile of L'Rain! Thought it was a P+J feature for a second, then remembered that album only placed in my imagination :(

if pazz and jop let me vote it might have ;)

I only gave it 7 points. Wish I'd voted more strategically.