US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI

maura, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link

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many xposts

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

what a time to work for a government contractor (as I do)

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link

LIFE IS WINNING

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link

Dingus Ah Um

― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII)

why so sick and ridiculous?

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link

!!@SenDuckworth: "I will not be lectured about what our military needs by a five-deferment draft-dodger. And I have a message for cadet bone spurs: If you cared about our military, you'd stop baiting Kim Jong-Un into a war that could put 85,000 American troops .. in danger." pic.twitter.com/BBXVna819m

— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) January 20, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link

oof

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link

good on her. now she'll get her own nickname from our president.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link

TAMMY

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link

yesss

maura, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

"draft dodger" still has a 1971 hardhat whiff to me. I like draft dodgers.

The phrase for Yam (and so many other war-promoting coddled cowards) is "chicken hawk."

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link

JM Rieger shd've at least properly capped "Cadet Bone Spurs"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

he resembles at times an amateur jazz musician

I know the moment has passed, but... Cantaloupe Lie-land?

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:44 (six years ago) link

"draft dodger" still has a 1971 hardhat whiff to me. I like draft dodgers.

The phrase for Yam (and so many other war-promoting coddled cowards) is "chicken hawk."

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius)

can't do it. can't use "chicken hawk" to refer to anybody other than an old creep with a taste for the barely legal. i should get with the times i suppose...

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

I think Lt. Colonel Duckworth gets to use "draft dodger" as a pejorative

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:17 (six years ago) link

By far the most surprising guest here at the @Cernovich event: Chelsea Manning!

— Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel) January 21, 2018

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

"draft dodger" still has a 1971 hardhat whiff to me. I like draft dodgers.

The phrase for Yam (and so many other war-promoting coddled cowards) is "chicken hawk."


When I find myself in full agreement with Morbius, consecutively over a series of days, that’s a fucking sign.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link

Morbs real otm here. stop using their shit brand framing

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link

I agree but in context they're clearly using the GOP's own bullshit pejorative labels against them.

Obv conscription is gross and shaming those who avoid it is worse....

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 January 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link

sure and I’m not knocking Duckworth, who’s (generally) pretty rad (other than fisa) and who better to take the shot. I’m talking more generally. Like the ‘resistance’ prob shouldn’t make a whole lot of noise about draft dodgers.

chicken hawks otoh. no one but lobbyists like those

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:00 (six years ago) link

*shot?

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:02 (six years ago) link

yeah we need a better/richer language here. i dig draft dodgers in the fuck-this-war-i'm-going-in-hiding sense. vietnam was bullshit - dodge away. but the specific thing of "i used my wealth and connections to get myself out of harm's way while letting the draft, and war, hum murderously along for others" is worth calling out. trump's record here is pathetic of course. but "chicken hawk" doesn't capture why either, plus no one knows what it means. i think duckworth could have just said "...from a rich kid who stayed out of vietnam by having his daddy's hired doctor make up phony medical excuses, while the kids of the people who rented apartments in his daddy's buildings had no such option" .... or some pithier version thereof.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link

yeah “chickenhawk” a misnomer in this instance.

but ppl should know what means and the GOP should absolutely be synonymous with it

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:16 (six years ago) link

Chelsea was ostensibly there to "crash it" but bb you gotta do more than show up and get seen at a white supremacist's party if yr gonna call it crashing

God her ad is so bad, all signifiers aimed at people who think voting doesn't do anything

I want better things for her than this

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

probably a better option than "draft dodger" or "chicken hawk": "shithead"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 21 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link

Meantime

oh my god https://t.co/uudoz4Z6Ps pic.twitter.com/2YgXIVqdaO

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) January 21, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:23 (six years ago) link

When I find myself in full agreement with Morbius, consecutively over a series of days, that’s a fucking sign.

― El Tomboto, Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:41 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sigh, tying the knot. finally. looking for rsvp.

barreras, Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/Vl3Q2ucHQz

— Alex Nichols (@Lowenaffchen) January 21, 2018

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Sunday, 21 January 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link

That's an adorable dog. I refuse to see what's in the rest of the picture, tho.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 21 January 2018 05:06 (six years ago) link

let’s hope the dog enjoyed a long, full life and was not eventually murdered by noted dog-murderer david huckabee

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 21 January 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

I want better things for her than this

I think what you actually want is a better version of her than the one that actually exists.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 21 January 2018 11:03 (six years ago) link

uh oh someone's suggesting the "nuclear option" in the Senate again

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 January 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

Did Rand Paul hack Josh in Chicago's account?

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link

Ha! I love the government and want it to be even bigger. (Except the military, which is big enough - Rand Paul likes big military, doesn't he?). My point (as such) was that the GOP is constantly harping about the size of government, and the current administration is actively trying to shrink things or shut them down, while leaving several posts unfilled (we still don't even have an ambassador to South Korea!) or pressuring other workers to quit or retire or take buy-outs and leave. Which I find so disingenuous, the party of small government or, lately, no government, suddenly concern trolling for ending the shutdown. This is their dream come true! Or should be. As for the shutdown itself, yeah, it hurts people financially, at least in the short term, but so does the massive cutting and dissolution of government programs under Trump, right? Because of Trump GOP strategy, a working government means a government working to limit or shrink government, which is kind of a Catch-22. The irony is that congress is *not* shut down, but they've been the least productive or effective branch of government the past year.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

(I fully acknowledge any illogic and stupidity to my reasoning, it's just that my gut instinct is if ever there was a government I'd want shut down, it's this one!)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

You could have just said that!

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

if ever there was a government I'd want shut down, it's this one!

Josh in Chicago otm

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

See?

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:23 (six years ago) link

I think what you actually want is a better version of her than the one that actually exists.

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, January 21, 2018 11:03 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, but thanks

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

xp As a rhetorical device "look, shutdown is a sneak peek at the logical extension of your libertarianism" or "this is what you get when you drown government in the bathtub" is just the sort of rhetorical device the Dems remain too clumsy/lumbering to make

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

It doesn't seem that hard an argument to make! "You republicans have been calling for cutting and slashing for years, and now here you go, government is on hold. Happy? We want CHIP. We want DACA. We want lots of things. You want nothing, because if you wanted something you'd be voting on it, like you voted on lowering taxes or ending the ACA some 50 times. So to sum up: fuck you."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

No I don't think it's hard at all. I wish they'd do it.

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

what it boils down to is that we have to make their arguments for them and sell them for them. if the democrats wind up getting shit on for the shutdown, it's our failure more importantly than it is theirs.

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

lol fuck that

sleeve, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

That’s not what these shutdowns are. All of DHS’s essential functions are staffed. All the military functions are staffed. All the contractors are still getting paid. The mail is being delivered. Social Security checks included.

Nothing is “shut down” in any meaningful sense.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

uh oh didn't we do this already?

xposts whether the blame lies with the electorate or the party, this is why leadership has gotta be flipped. The legislative muscles necessary to become a Nancy Pelosi or Steny Hoyer are built up incrementally over decades of navigating an arcane system, and they're important and necessary esp. for maintaining power. But in the process it seems that the muscles that help you punch above your weight, in fighting to take it back, tend to atrophy.

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

What these shutdowns amount to is that all of the activities the federal government does to further its ability to provide services, or improve our way of life, or advance the state of practice in various fields of study that venture capitalists tend to ignore, those things stop cold.

All of the civil servants who manage and/or do that work are going to get paid leave for however long this takes, so taxpayers are just getting ripped off for nothing.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

Oh good I’m glad we’re using this time to whine some more about the fecklessness of Democrats

El Tomboto, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

i'll stop when they get some feck

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

They should demand an immediate vote on feck.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link


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