the x-files s/d

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whew, I was thinking that the doppelganger one was by Wong or one of the Morgans and was disappointed and confused. knowing it was written (thankfully not directed) by Carter is actually a relief

holding out hope that the next two are the best of this run

my lingering question is: Where. Is. Dagoo?!?

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 17:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Spoiler: at one point, the camera hones in on a character eating a brand of chocolate pudding named Dookie apparently just for the sake of justifying the inclusion of multiple utterances of 'flinging Dookie'.

That's where we're at, folks.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 17:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Karin Konoval could've been pretty great in this episode if they had discouraged her from playing her twin as a complete cartoon character.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 17:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink

my lingering question is: Where. Is. Dagoo?!?

same place Queequeg was in non-Darin Morgan episodes

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

fair enough

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:03 (eleven months ago) Permalink

In the belly of a Loch Ness Monster? Poor Dagoo...

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 20:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Been watching Series 3, and also Sons Of Anarchy. Not only is AD Skinner white nationalist guy Darby but now Piney has just turned up as er, Roky Crikenson (!) in Jose Chung's "From Outer Space".

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

This week's was an improvement but I think I would've been much more receptive to a batshit Darin Morgan episode if the rest of this season's episodes didn't feel so much like IDAGF self-parody.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Saturday, 27 January 2018 05:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink


The jokes are elderly and embarrassing.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 January 2018 06:03 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Well, yeah, it was possibly my least favorite Morgan episode, but they've set the bar so incredibly low this season that any episode that evinced a degree of effort was gonna be an improvement.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Saturday, 27 January 2018 13:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

are these any good? I honestly stopped after episode 1. I don't think I'm going to bother until I've consumed every other form of visual entertainment in the universe.

akm, Saturday, 27 January 2018 18:24 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I can't really recommend it, no.

One thing I did appreciate about this episode was the commentary on how the entire premise of the show is kinda depressing and unfun now in relation to the active dissolution of consensus reality.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Saturday, 27 January 2018 19:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The jokes were definitely more predictable (maybe just being used to Morgan's style at this point but the They reveal was so obvious) and the Trump stuff was annoying. But everyone was enjoying themselves, I still laughed at a lot of the dumb jokes, and I liked the Eels/Hugh Everett shout-out, I'd say it's worth a watch if you don't mind it not being up to the standard of the classic Morgan episodes.

JoeStork, Saturday, 27 January 2018 19:37 (eleven months ago) Permalink

for some reason the classic title sequence with “Reggie Something” added seemed hilarious

mh, Saturday, 27 January 2018 19:51 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

What if Black Mirror but as a silent(ish) comedy? You know what? It was great and the season highlight by several orders of magnitude.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

I kind of wanted a little more dialogue, but overall, not bad for a conceptual episode

Looking forward to meeting you all.
Love, blobfish aka William #bts #TheXFiles

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mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:34 (ten months ago) Permalink

Funny, 40 minutes in, it's that knock knock "banana" joke that keeps going and going. Show looks great, though.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm glad I stuck around for one more episode.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 March 2018 19:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

isn't this over yet

akm, Monday, 5 March 2018 20:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Finally finished this last night. What a pile of garbage this revive has been. Cool to watch Mulder casually mass murder his way through the final episode. I think he shot more people to death in 60 minutes than he did in every other episode combined. And it was probably the least worst Carter episode of the past two seasons.

So yeah, if you've been on the fence, continue to avoid. Except for the episode aldo mentioned in the last revive. That was pretty good.

Orbital Ribbonbopper, Inventor of Flying and Popcorn (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

disagree, don't care about the season opener or closer since those have been useless since about season 5, but this season was very satisfying... it felt like the x-files.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

this mini-season was worse than the last one

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

it was bad enough that my stance is now that the X-Files, a pretty good if sometimes ridiculous show, ended after its seventh season in the year 2000

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah seasons 8-10 are pretty dire, but even 10 had Mulder and Scully Meet the Were-Monster, and Home Again was pretty fun.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

The Carter-written episodes have generally been awful (the hangman episode was fun, though still not exactly good), the others have ranged from decent to occasionally brilliant. The main problem is, passable genre exercises just don't really stand out after all this time.

Carter was never the show's best or most consistent writer, but it's depressing how bad he's got. He'll always be a major reason for the show's success, and the diversity of stories it could tell. The funny thing is, I can actually kinda see what he was trying to do with the new mythology - I find the idea of humans exploiting and experimenting with alien biology and tech scarier than some barely comprehensible invasion plot, as the Anasazi/Paper Clip and Nisei/731 arcs demonstrated. It's just that the guy who once wrote Deep Throat and (Millennium episode) Lamentation seems to have forgotten how to write an episode of television altogether.

Duane Barry, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

why did people have to keep yelling about chemtrails

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:19 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was really the grossest part of the whole endeavor. I was never quite sure if the relatively value-free references to the increasingly pernicious conspiracy-mindedness of our culture were just ill-advised (I mean, Joel McHale as Glenn Beck/Alex Jones analogue was basically a hero) or if they were actually a reflection of where Carter's mind has gone in his dotage.

Orbital Ribbonbopper, Inventor of Flying and Popcorn (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

he might have brain worms

I kind of assume most old dudes have some sort of brain worms, though. That would make for a decent x-file

alvin noto (mh), Friday, 6 April 2018 00:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

Did you see his Amazon pilot from a couple years ago, alledgedly set in the Xfilesverse? Something to do with the apocalypse and the devil in LA. Was major, major yikes.

I haven’t caught up with the reboot at all - just the Darin Morgan episodes and the one Aldo mentions then?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

I sort-of-watched all of last season, and this year just the Darin episode, the Lone Gunmen one by Glen, and the Black Mirror-y one. Your impression is basically right, but save The Lost Art Of Forehead Sweat, this year's Darin ep, for last.

(Or for a real flavour of how awkward S10 was without getting REALLY terrible:
-in that order.)

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 6 April 2018 05:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'll be the militant. S10 & S11 (especially S11) amplified the worst elements of the original series enough that I suspect the entire show was b.s. It's only brilliant on accident when someone managed to write away from Carter. This itself sounds like an X-Files plot.

I'm annoyed that S10 and S11 wasted so much time on embarrassing plots that just kept Mulder and Scully reacting to things. So much what's current in medtech, social psychology, etc. etc. could be the feeder of some potentially great plots.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 April 2018 20:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

amplified the worst elements of the original series enough that I suspect the entire show was b.s. It's only brilliant on accident when someone managed to write away from Carter.

Nah: the alien conspiracy episodes were always terrible, and I stopped occasionally watching the show during the original run because you never knew if you'd get a good episode or some mytharc nonsense that you were supposed to have watched 19 non-consecutive previous episodes to follow, except that even if you had, it wouldn't make sense.

Over the last few years, I've done a watch-through of the first six seasons, just watching Darin Morgan and Vince Gilligan episodes, and a few other standalones. But! Carter could actually do good, or fun, or scary, or creative episodes back in the '90s.

The Host (S01e02) set the tone for the monster-of-the-weeks, taking a sci-fi/monster premise and wrapping a procedural, jokes, and development of Mulder & Scully's relationship in it. Syzygy, in S3, is Carter being inspired by Darin Morgan's ability to do outright comedy in the X-Files format, trying it himself, failing but accidentally inventing Buffy. Memento Mori, in S4, is a gang-written script that shows folks didn't NEED to write away from Carter - he could work just as well on a serious standalone as drawing a single co-writer onto his mytharc finales.

And two he directed as well as writing are super-indicators that he saw the oddball, creative, unusual episodes as a primary feature of the series: The Post-Modern Prometheus (S5), the black & white small-town Frankenstein & Cher episodes; and Triangle (S6), the one on a 1939 submarine with all the "unbroken" tracking shots.

(Another S6 all-Carter joint, How The Ghosts Stole Christmas, works fine as a Chrimbo farce.)

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 6 April 2018 21:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

we'd all have a better time if we just went squatchin'

alvin noto (mh), Friday, 6 April 2018 22:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

Carter was always hit or miss as a writer. But aside from that, as series creator he allowed different writers do their own thing with the show, experiment with tone and story, make their own mark. He gave them the space to make absurd comedies one week and mini horror films the next. He came up with the idea but didn't guard it obsessively (unlike some TV creators). XF probably wasn't the first show with an open-minded approach like that, but not every showrunner would allow something like Jose Chung's "From Outer Space" to happen.

Duane Barry, Saturday, 7 April 2018 00:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

hmm not sure I can trust a guy with your name making x-files judgments

alvin noto (mh), Saturday, 7 April 2018 05:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

oh please, the show has a hit rate way, way above "brilliant on accident". there are over 200 episodes, of course some of them are going to be crap.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 April 2018 06:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

Worth a read:

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

completely forgot that Detective Munch of Baltimore PD appears in the X-Files

the Wolfverse and X-FIles overlap heck yeah

mh, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:35 (five months ago) Permalink

and Homicide/The Wire

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 10 August 2018 22:57 (five months ago) Permalink

well, yes

mh, Saturday, 11 August 2018 00:03 (five months ago) Permalink

He was also on Law & Order: SWV iirc.

Funkface LLC (Old Lunch), Saturday, 11 August 2018 00:36 (five months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

premiered T W E N T Y - F I V E Y E A R S A G O today

i have wasted my life

bitch that’s the tubby custard machine (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 September 2018 20:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Ha, yes, I keep remarking on 20th and 25th and 30th anniversaries of things that mark the various stretches of time when I've done little of note or substance.

Like for instance how I still haven't finished watching all of the X-Files. What am I even doing with my time.

I Don't Have Any Ears, I Am Positive (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 September 2018 21:06 (four months ago) Permalink

someone was telling me recently that the real scoop around why x files moved to la from vancouver wasn't to do with david duchovny "hating the rain" or wanting to be closer to his family, instead he'd managed to get himself barred from all the strip clubs in the area, including one ran by the Hell's Angels, and pissed off lots of sex workers.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 September 2018 21:10 (four months ago) Permalink


( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 September 2018 21:10 (four months ago) Permalink

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