US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

dickwolf 2020

so is the plan to get bipartisan senate support on a moderate DACA bill, send it to the house (where it won't pass), and then use it to beat republicans around with for the midterms and get a house majority?

i mean, okay, but that still doesn't get DACA protection passed.

Dems suck, that is all

Dems suck, that is all

― frogbs, Monday, January 22, 2018 6:49 PM (fifteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they need the gov't reopened so they can get back to work killing dodd/frank with 1,000 papercuts with their gop friends

I would love to throw eggs at Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray today. Fucking spineless shitheads.

what bothers me is not so much that they caved, but rather that they caved to a known bunch of amoral liars who are absolutely going to use it as evidence that they can pull more power plays like this in the future

Sure, the CR is a three-week thing and it opens up the possibility of another opportunity on Feburary 8th.

But that's 2,562 Dreamers that will lose protections by that time.

What depraved act does ICE have to do to show that they give NO shits about separating families?

— Kristian Steffany 🌹 (@kksteffany) January 22, 2018

democrats aren't perfect. they lost 1041 state and federal posts (congressional and state legislative seats, and governorships) while obama was president. i wonder how many they're going to lose while trump is president

democrats 2018: pobody's nerfect!

I mean on one hand I kind of get it, partisan politics has such a prisoner's dilemma aspect to it, and the GOP has been very loudly saying "we will fuck you over" at every turn. there's not really a whole lot the Dems could do.

that said, the Dems are pretty good at making the worst of a bad situation

anyway on a later note, something strange is going on with Sheriff Big Boy

https://twitter.com/SheriffClarkeTC

If DACA doesn't pass in February, it's either on McConnell for not honoring promise, or on the GOP and Trump. Thus, what they got was, at worst, a Feb shutdown that can't be blamed on Dems.

Politically, it looks fine for the Dems. Morally -- those DACA beneficiaries who will lose status while the Chuck Todds of our lives sigh with relief -- it's another story.

yea I get that but the Dems have absolutely zero reason to trust McConnell on this, given that he's broken this exact promise several times already

meanwhile they come off as spineless and look like they really don't care about the Dreamers after all

we'll see what happens in 3 weeks but I'm not hopeful

like the whole reason DACA is on the table right now is because McConnell broke his promise to vote on it in December. Schumer just setting up to get Charlie Brown'd yet again

It's tricky tho. The GOP isn't wrong in thinking that "Dem shutdown for illegals" is a politically strong hand. No guarantee that continuing the shutdown leads to any better outcome for DACA. At least this way they have a shot -- however slim -- at separating the issue from the CR. And if it still leads to another shutdown in two weeks, it's more obviously on the GOP.

The leverage the Dems have atm is very easy to overestimate. The people handed the reins of government to a crowd of despicable people, but the shitheels hold the power and the Dems have almost zilch to work with. To reach back to an archaic saying, fine words butter no parsnips.

idk "the GOP is trying to kill children" seems like decent leverage to me

Have you followed American politics at all?

.@GOPWhip also made it clear no commitment for House to take up Senate DACA deal, saying any bill had to include funding for the wall and "would not include amnesty"

— Deirdre Walsh (@deirdrewalshcnn) January 22, 2018

lmao already

how did the Dems bungle this so badly

meanwhile

BREAKING: Pennsylvania Supreme Court throws out state's congressional map, ruling that gerrymandering violates constitution.

— The Associated Press (@AP) January 22, 2018

the GOP is trying to kill children

In other words... another Tuesday?

xpost Cool, let's see how long it takes the SC to overturn that one!

WHOA re SC-PA and gerrymandering, I'm not sure people were optimistic about the outcome of that case.

it's a 'commonwealth' steve, but

Important: Because this lawsuit relies solely on Pennsylvania's *state* constitution, there would be little room for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a decision striking down the map https://t.co/BE1AC9tsrT

— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) January 19, 2018

The GOP isn't wrong in thinking that "Dem shutdown for illegals" is a politically strong hand.

It's catnip for Red Hatters, who've been pushing the distorted optics fostered by Comrade Combover of hurting the military to save these people who shouldn't have been here in the first place.

lmao https://voterguide.dallasnews.com/2018-primary/races/40/#candidates=candidate-82,candidate-83

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, January 22, 2018 1:22 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I suspect that the reason Trump and the GOP expect North Korea, Iran et al to capitulate entirely on negotiations is because they're so used to negotiating with Democrats.

— Malcolm Fleschner (@CultureShlock) January 22, 2018

lol xp

*massive bong rip* legalize weed

lmao already

how did the Dems bungle this so badly

― frogbs, 22. januar 2018 20:57 (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The point is that if no deal is made, McConnell will put a clean DACA on the Senate floor. Where it will pass. It would pass the house as well. Ryan then has to block the bill, knowing full well it would lead to a shutdown.

McConnell will put a clean DACA on the Senate floor.

you sure about this

McConnell will promised to put a clean DACA on the Senate floor.

a distinction with a difference

It's the point of the deal. The fact that he might be lying doesn't change what the deal is.

And yes frogbs. Back in December McConnell promised to put an immigration bill on the floor if there was one. There isn't. This time he promised to put a DACA bill on the floor if there is no immigration bill.

Per my previous, he also promised Collins a vote to shore up health care in exchange for their tax votes.

Basically, the second this turns sour - like, tomorrow? as soon as the president farts into his phone? - I finally have reason to call my senators and be angry.

It's definitely going to turn sour. I'd say in three weeks...

McConnell managed to delay a SC appointment for almost a year under a sitting president. I wouldn't put anything past him/them.

He is a lying piece of shit, so yeah.

been thinking about taking up prayer just for pieces of shit like him

is it ok to whine about Dem fecklessness yet?

kinda wonder what Harry Reid woulda done? prob not this?

“The three richest people in the US own the same wealth as the bottom half of the US population (roughly 160 million people).”

https://splinternews.com/heres-how-we-distribute-the-wealth-at-the-moment-1822297968

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs amirite

To each according to his tweets.

i can't tell you how many times i have seen a stat like that dismissed with "yeah but they pay more taxes, so"

BREAKING: Trump to impose 30 percent tariff on solar cell imports https://t.co/55ESgTPtgI

— CNBC (@CNBC) January 22, 2018

Coal is BACK, BABY!!

https://i.imgur.com/NdQytF2.gif

the good news is that we can count on the big green groups to unite and spearhead a huge nationwide protest this saturday, taking advantage of the pent-up frustration of progressives who already got fucked over once today. people who are angry about the dreamers and about trump's anti-environmental policies should intersectionality the shit out of the cities this weekend, in the fucking intersections.

but jk, big green groups aren't going to unite

still can't believe Trump spent all weekend being pouty in the WH and wound up getting everything he wanted