OK, I found my ballot (10 points for each album, and I never vote for singles):
Jaimie Branch, Fly Or Die (International Anthem)Christian Scott, The Centennial Trilogy (Ropeadope)Elder, Reflections Of A Floating World (Stickman)Kamasi Washington, Harmony Of Difference (Young Turks)Cavalera Conspiracy, Psychosis (Napalm)Rødhåd, Anxious (Dystopian)Immolation, Atonement (Nuclear Blast)Prurient, Rainbow Mirror (Profound Lore)Big K.R.I.T., 4eva Is A Mighty Long Time (Multi Alumni)Lana Del Rey, Lust For Life (Interscope)
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link
Any idea how many ballots were cast? I like to compare points-per-ballot figures from year to year.
― SlimAndSlam, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link
I wish they'd just stop with the charade that they're still open to printing random comments. (Maybe they're there and I missed them--all I see are the two commissioned pieces.) I went back and checked if that was still part of the e-mail they send out, and indeed it is ("As always, we also welcome (i.e., encourage) comments, be they one-liners or novellas, on any and all music-related matters." That line goes back at least to 2009, the earliest one that's still in my in-box. They have eliminated "We'll publish a great deal of these -- some in print, and a great many more only online -- and pay a small fee for their use in either case" in the intervening eight years, but maybe they ought to scrap the other half too.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
i just hope they get individual ballots up at some point. if anyone has a connex there, let 'em know that's the best part of this whole thing.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link
That too, of course--that's the bare minimum to justify its continued existence. I mean, I can't believe anybody actually cares about the results in a world with 37,000 year-end lists.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link
A little bummed there's no individual ballots or seemingly an ability to look past the top choices.Here's my ballot. I don't remember how I distributed the points but the order is correct. I didn't do singles.
1. Oxbow - Thin White Duke (Hydrahead)2. Brutus - Burst (Sargent House)3. Chelsea Wolfe - Hiss Spun (Sargent House)4. The Regrettes - Feel Your Feelings Fool! (Warner Brothers)5. Idles - Brutalism (Balley)6. Anwar Sadat - Ersatz Living (LP) (Broken World Media)7. Wolves in the Throne Room - Thrice Woven (Artemisia Records)8. Irreversible Entanglements - Irreversible Entanglements (International Anthem / Don Giovanni)9. The Midnight Ghost Train - Cypress Ave. (Napalm Records)10. Rebel Wizard - Triumph Of Gloom (Prosthetic Records)
A little surprised that the highest charting metal album was Power Trip's Nightmare Logic at #65.One of my choices cracked the Top 100 but not one of my metal choices (The Regrettes at #79).
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/22/pazz-jop-top-10-albums-by-year-1971-2016/
Fantastic piece. Where else could you find such obscure information?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link
Ooh ballots -- happy to see these! I did one.
1. Kelela - Take Me Apart (Warp)2. The Courtneys - II (Flying Nun)3. Aimee Mann - Mental Illness (SuperEgo)4. The Magnetic Fields - 50 Song Memoir (Nonesuch)5. Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory (Def Jam)6. Circuit Des Yeux - Reaching For Indigo (Drag City)7. Girlpool - Powerplant (Anti-)8. L'Rain - L’Rain (Astro Nautico)9. Charly Bliss - Guppy (Barsuk)10. Cornelius - Mellow Waves (Rostrum)
Spent a lot of time determining what was a single, came up with these.
1. Slowdive - Sugar for the Pill (Dead Oceans)2. St. Vincent - Pills (Loma Vista)3. Moses Sumney - Lonely World (Jagjaguwar)4. Kehlani - Undercover (Atlantic)5. Alvvays - Plimsoll Punks (Polyvinyl)6. The Stevens - Chancer (Chapter Music)7. Emily Haines - Legend of the Wild Horse (Last Gang)8. Chastity Belt - Different Now (Hardly Art)9. Lomelda - Interstate Vision (Double Double Whammy)10. Perfume Genius - Wreath (Matador)
― geoffreyess, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 04:53 (six years ago) link
Very disappointed in the lack of individual ballots.
Here's mine:Albums1. Various Artists - Club Chai, Vol. 1 (Club Chai) 202. Japanese Breakfast - Soft Sounds From Another Planet (Dead Oceans) 153. Ty Dolla $ign - Beach House 3 (Atlantic Records) 154. SZA - CTRL (Top Dawg Entertainment) 105. Waxahatachee - Out In The Storm (Merge Records) 106. Lorde - Melodrama (Republic Records) 107. Octo Octa - Where Are We Going? (Honey Soundsystem Records) 58. MUNA - About U (RCA Records) 59. Grizzly Bear - Painted Ruins (RCA Records) 510. Julie Byrne - Not Even Happiness (Ba Da Bing! Records) 5
Singles1. Slowdive - Slomo (Dead Oceans)2. Mount Kimbie ft. King Krule - Blue Train Lines (Warp Records)3. House Of Feelings - It’ll Cost You (Infinite Best Recordings)4. Chief Keef - Told Y’all (Glo Gang/RBE Records)5. Chris Jeday ft. J Balvin, Ozuna, Arcangel - Ahora Dice (Universal Music Group)6. Avalon Emerson - One More Fluorescent Rush (Whities)7. Hercules & Love Affair ft. Sharon Van Etten - Omnion (Big Beat Records)8. yaeji - Full of It (GODMODE)9. Playboi Carti ft. Lil Uzi Vert - *wokeuplikethis (AWGE/Interscope Records)10. The Chainsmokers - Paris (Disruptor Records/Columbia Records)
― austinb, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 04:54 (six years ago) link
AlbumsKendrick Lamar - Damn Syd - Fin Carly Pearce - Every Little ThingThe Ocean Party - Beauty Point2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap MusicKelela - Take Me Apart Moon Diagrams - Lifetime of LoveCharlie Worsham - Beginning of ThingsChloe x Halle - The Two of Us Milk Teddy - Time Catches Up With Milk Teddy
SongsKendrick Lamar ft Zacari - "LOVE"Migos - T-ShirtYoung Thug - SafeJoan Shelley - Wild IndifferenceSunny Sweeney - Bottle By My BedPlayboi Carti ft. Lil Uzi Vert - WokeuplikethisWashington Hebrew - Ima TryLast Leaves - The World We HadSZA - Drew BarrymoreCam - Diane
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
ALBUMS, 10 points each.
Matt Jencik - Weird Times (Hands in the Dark)Bob Dylan - Triplicate (Columbia) The Fun Years - Heroes of the Second Story Walk-Up (Spring Break Tapes) Benoît Pioulard - Lignin Poise (Disques D’honore) Ulver - The Assassination of Julius Caesar (House of Mythology)Vattnet - Vattnet (New Damage Records)The Angelus - There Will Be No Peace (Tofu Carnage Records) Divide Replace - warp wrap (self released) Biblical - The City That Always Sleeps (New Damage Records)Eiyn Sof - Meadow Thrum (Arachnidiscs)
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
Christgau's definition of "post-rock" is making my brain bleed.
― evol j, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
I think this was my ballot
ALBUMS1. JLin, 'Black Origami'2. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, 'The Kid'3. Kendrick Lamar, 'Damn.'4. Blanck Mass, 'World Eater'5. Lanark Artefax, 'Whities 011' EP6. Saicobab, 'Sab Se Purani Bab'7. Songhoy Blues, 'Résistance'8. Traxman, 'Tekvision'9. Migos, 'Culture'10. Chino Amobi, 'Paradiso'
SINGLES1. Tee Grizzly, "First Day Out"2. Kendrick Lamar, “Humble”3. Taylor Swift, “Look What You Made Me Do”4. Migos, “Bad and Boujee"5. Kendrick Lamar, "DNA"6. Tay-K, “The Race”7. Margo Price, "Pay Gap"8. Taylor Swift, "…Ready for It?"9. DJ Khaled and Friends, “Wild Thoughts"10. Pink, "What About Us"
― somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
I didn't vote this year, but with no individual ballots showing and only the top 10, my votes would have been invisible anyway. They would have been something like:
VUUR: In This Moment We Are Free - CitiesThe Dark Element: The Dark ElementRavenscry: The InvisibleMetalite: Heroes in TimeAmberian Dawn: Darkness of EternityExit Eden: Rhapsodies in BlackIKINÄ: Samoista SoluistaHaloo Helsinki!: Hulluuden HighwayIdeas: EgységMoonspell: 1755
MUNA: "Crying on the Bathroom Floor"Dappy: "Spotlight (Acoustic)"Dave Days: "Hurts So Good to Be Alive"Jule Vera: "Lifeline"Battle Beast: "Familiar Hell"Clock Opera: "You've Got What I Need"Force Majeure: "Church of Steam"Ayben: "Baskan"Bright Light Bright Light: "Running Back to You"Perfume Genius: "Slip Away"
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:51 (six years ago) link
Top 100s, I meant. I agree that without individual ballots showing, the whole thing is close to moot. I don't think my declining to tabulate was the cause of this, although it can't have helped. Mainly the change in corporate ownership meant that they couldn't use the old database/publishing system any more, so all processes had to be recreated from scratch. Given that, I was a little surprised they went through with it at all, and not at all surprised that they stuck to just publishing the flat list. Data publishing in a blog-post world is hard.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I remember whatever system they had ca. 2007(?) broke? I don't know if they ever updated it, but it would make some logical sense that it would not be too functional after who knows how many redesigns and CMS changes. I wouldn't blame any media company for not wanting to go through the cost in money and man hours to build/rebuild a functional list
― somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
My 20 points helped keep Paramore in the top 50 and my 15 points kept the Regrettes in the top 90. So, yay.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link
"publishing" the results without much comment alongside a state of the union by a septuagenarian rock critic vs not doing it at all
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
the accompanying cardi gif is v v badhttp://villagevoice.freetls.fastly.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/VillageVoice-CardiB-MarinaEsmeraldo.gif
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
I emailed the person who assisted me with my login asking if they would post ballots. Will post any response I get.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link
christgau's essay ultimately lands on and closes with what he considers to be the political albums of the year: Mount Eerie and Randy Newman
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
Top 100s, I meant. I agree that without individual ballots showing, the whole thing is close to moot.
otm. I know it probably doesn't matter much to most of the readership, but as a participant, I have no idea why I would continue to vote. Not because I want to see my ballot published, but for the cross-referencing, etc.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
Yeah, it's mostly about the individual ballots for me too; keep 'em coming. Losing access to the database sounds like a real good alibi, although I just now googled something I wrote in the 90s and it was still on there (still, there have indeed been enough shakeups over the years that I set up my own blogspot archive). Maybe they just don't have access to the numbers etc. But mostly why I'm posting this: Just under the villagevoice.com search results were many more voice items at openlibrary.org, which, if you pay for it to open, apparently will present the sound recordings (sic) mentioned in reviews and in Pazz & Jops (of the 90s, anyway, which is where I was looking). I didn't spring for it, so no idea how thorough this is, or whether it works at all (didn't see the text of my 90s piece, or of the P&Js; maybe that's part of what you pay for).
― dow, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
I don't even remember my ballot, fwiw
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
dow, think about the time it would take to format/post/hyperlink like 100 ballots from scratch, let alone connect them to individual pages for each song and album.
Without a custom CMS, forget it
― somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
Even with help from a program that generates HTML for albums based off IDs, receiving and processing merely/roughly 400 albums and singles (for a simple one-page feature) is a mite arduous.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I don't mean to imply that anyone should do this from scratch, or at all--and certainly not demanding links to all the songs ever mentioned on all the ballots of all the polls---but rather that openlibrary.org seems to be implying that they/their gigslaves have done something like this.
― dow, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
Did yall see this? Mostly not that surprising, but some I'd forgotten about:https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/22/pazz-jop-top-10-albums-by-year-1971-2016/?utm_source=Village+Voice+Music&utm_campaign=f5027b4451-Music+Newsletter+1%2F19%2F2018&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_58e5ed4fcb-f5027b4451-58804241
― dow, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
Coldplay!?
― dow, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
I was surprised by the scarcity of hip hop in the mid-90s. No Illmatic for instance. Also I didn’t know Steely Dan was so dominant in the 70s.
― o. nate, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
They published a bunch of voter comments the other day. Still no ballots though.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link
Also a profile of L'Rain! Thought it was a P+J feature for a second, then remembered that album only placed in my imagination :(
― geoffreyess, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link
if pazz and jop let me vote it might have ;)
― imago, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
I only gave it 7 points. Wish I'd voted more strategically.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
Wow, I got a comment posted.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/25/pazz-jop-comments-further-listening/
― curmudgeon, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
Not sure how, but i got two—one on lorde and one on club chai.
― austinb, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link
Mine mentioned a few of my Afro-southern faves who don’t get mentioned as Americana
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link
More comments here by others https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/25/pazz-jop-comments-protests-and-escapes/
if it's the comment I think it is that sounds intriguing
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link
this was mine:
ALBUMS
01. Susanne Sundfor: Music For People In Trouble02. Julie Byrne: Not Even Happiness03. Kelela: Take Me Apart04: Perfume Genius: No Shape05. SZA: CTRL06. MUNA: About U07. Lorde: Melodrama08. Baths: Romaplasm09. Kelly Lee Owens: Kelly Lee Owens10. Jessie Ware: Glasshouse
SONGS
01. SZA ft. Travis Scott: "Love Galore"02. Mondo Grosso ft. Hikari Mitsushima: "Labyrinth"03. Lorde: "Supercut"04. Slowdive: "Slomo"05. Wolf Alice: "Don't Delete The Kisses"06. Hercules & Love Affair ft. Sharon Van Etten: "Omnion"07. yaeji: "raingurl"08. Tove Lo: "Disco Tits"09. Phoebe Bridgers: "Motion Sickness"10. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith: "To Feel Your Best"
― joshywinty (josh), Saturday, 27 January 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
ALBUMSJakuzi – Fantezi Müzik (City Slang) 15Kenji Minogue – En Dermee (Music Mania) 13Louis Sclavis – Frontières (JMs) 12Reniss –Tendon (New Bell) 12Scooter – Scooter Forever (Sheffield Tunes) 11Cabbage – Young Dumb and Full Of… (Skeleton Key) 10Charlie Worsham – Beginning Of Things (Warner Bros.) 8Bruce Cockburn -Bone On Bone (True North) 7Carlinhos Brown – Semelhantes (Candyall) 6Nadia Rose – Highly Flammable (Relentless) 6
SINGLESBaghi Mann – Soorme (Jass)Haley Georgia - Shots (Haley Georgia)Kabeer Nasha – Aaj Club Mein (Turban Hits)Omar Souleyman – Ya Bnayya (Mad Decent)Meet Bros. – Roar on the Shore (Party Mix) (Meet Bros.)Haley Georgia – Becky (Haley Georgia)Lindsey Buckingham & Christie McVie – In My World (Atlantic)Heize – Hello! UFO (Universal)Sevyn Streeter – Before I Do (Atlantic)Tuxedo – 2nd Time Around (Stones Throw)
― xheddy, Saturday, 27 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
Albums
Kendrick Lamar-DamnSZA-CTRLYemi Alade-Black MagicTrio Da Kali & Kronos Quartet-LadilikanOumou Sangare-MogoyaNew Pornographers-Whiteout ConditionsMoses Sumney-AromanticismVarious Artist, Trailride Music Vol. 1Daniel Caesar-FreudianMs. Jody- Thunder Under Yonder
Songs
Kendrick Lamar-DNASZA-Love GaloreMary J. Blige-Thick of ItJ. Balvin & Willy William- Mi GenteFuture-Mask OffMigos-Bad and BoujeeOlamide-Wo!!Goldlink (ft. Brent Faiyaz and Shy Glizzy)- CrewThe Courtneys-Silver VelvetSam Hunt -Body Like a Back Road
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/25/pazz-jop-comments-the-top-albums-and-singles/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
so it looks like Uproxx is going to try to pick up the Pazz & Jop torch.
hey twitter -- ballots for @uproxx's first music critics poll just went out. @Philip_Cosores and i did our best compiling a list of who might be interested. if you're a music writer who wants to vote, please send me an email: cait✧✧✧.wh✧✧✧@upr✧✧✧.c✧✧. all are welcome!— caitlin cristin (@harmonicait) December 3, 2018
reminder: Uproxx is owned by Warner Music.
this bothers me. does it bother others or is it an unavoidable fact of music-critic life in 2018?
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
uproxx has bigger problems than its owners
― maura, Monday, 3 December 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/reading-product-plugs-from-joshua-tree-helped-me-unders-1822234122
Voting for U2's 'Joshua Tree' Helped Me Understand My Own Twisted Heart
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link
Did anybody here get one of these invite emails? I didn't.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Yep.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link