Oscars 2018

I couldn't really find a way to say that tactfully in my nominations piece.

The Hidden Figures role is different enough. Shape of Water though? Nope.

Hidden Figures a slightly more deserving nomination too

Surprised that Phantom Thread got snubbed for Original Screenplay, but more disappointed that that piece of shit The Big Sick got nominated. wtf?

that piece of shit The Big Sick

fp'd

oh my god what an awful movie, so full of itself & full of loathsome obnoxious people, the apotheosis of the noxious trend of "improv & standup comedians giving *sage advice* and showing us how to live"

yeah I didn't get defenses of its freshness and wit.

Haven't seen any of the documentaries--Ex Libris and Dawson City should be there, also (more subjectively) Citizen Jane. (Like best picture, more than five should be allowed.)

xp it was a paint by numbers romcom elevated by its projected and perceived 'social import' starring unfunny and actively annoying people lecturing the audience for an hour and a half. no wit, no 'freshness'- just hectoring & navel-gazing of a particularly banal life story. anyway

Best Picture a toss-up between Get Out, Lady Bird, and The Shape of Water... I made out like a bandit last year, making bets this time is a little more difficult

I'm so happy Jonny Greenwood got nominated

Don't give a shit about Radiohead but his relationship with PTA has been amazing, great scores

Hans Zimmer will win for Dunkirk, tho, a good score from a composer I don't care for otherwise

At this point, BP is probably Shape of Water vs. Three Billboards, and I hate that this makes me want to root for the latter, despite being basically awful.

re: Big Sick, what's this about (haven't seen it)

the big sick is a good movie to watch if you want to see a bunch of Pakistani women get shade thrown at them

— Cold Drinks Enjoyer Li'l 🌴 (@karengeier) January 23, 2018

At this point, BP is probably Shape of Water vs. Three Billboards, and I hate that this makes me want to root for the latter, despite being basically awful.

― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.)

are you serious? SOW is at worst conservative Oscarbait with monsters and bestiality.

I would've agreed with you but ... 13 nominations.

Three Billboards isn't likely to win without a director nomination, is it? I would think Lady Bird or Get Out are the other films competing with SOW for BP

Three Billboards is not going to win

a million people have already written thinkpieces about how racist it is and there'll be another million before the ceremony

It'd be a miracle for Get Out or Lady Bird to win tbh.

Hell, maybe it's Darkest Hour's to lose. It already got five more nominations than anyone expected.

I hope Ronan can eke out a win over McDormand, but I don't really buy that 3BB's momentum is abating after it managed to steal two nods in the supporting actor category

I know the tweet earlier was kinda joking but I could actually see a cappaign of reminding people Churchill was a shithead working pretty well to spoil any chances it may have

Shape of Water is the safest bet

@simon - that's a particularly stupid critique of the movie i've seen a few times. basically the lead guy falls in love with a white woman, but his family is insistent that he follow in their footsteps and accept an arranged marriage with a Pakistani woman. the family hoodwinks him several times into blind dates with various Pakistani women at their house. he's not interested because he's in love with someone else. there's no 'shade' thrown at these random women, his heart is already set on someone else. I don't see the issue.

ahhh.

I guess Desplat could win if Zimmer doesn't. I only just saw Dunkirk and thought that was the freshest element, instead of using the usual war-film stirring orchestral template.

I am not paying to see Three Billboards, and don't have good feelings about going to SoW either.

All these BP "it can't win" arguments remind me of the 2016 Republican primaries, and...

The shape of water had a nice score. Felt like they put effort in, with actual motifs for the characters and everything

and Three Billboards has a strong Trump-ian undercurrent so

I can't figure out why del Toro's film is gonna be the monster-movie romance to get a Golden Shower. Cronenberg is asking, "Where were you people for The Fly?"

I don't understand the racist/Trump connection in Three Billboards at all. I saw it in November, really liked it, and only a few weeks ago began seeing the 'problematic' thinkpieces popping up, and before I read any of them, I couldn't even guess what they would take issue with. Why do people need to make a villain to root against? Moonlight v. La La Land was a pretty stark contrast & all that mishegoss made sense, especially at the time. Now people are really grasping at straws.

I have no memory of Desplat winning an Oscar for The Grand Budapest Hotel. Zimmer won 20+ years ago for The Lion King.

xxp Morbs i wasn't interested in The Shape of Water based on the trailer, but it really moved me. also it's really well paced, it manages to be a lot of things (Cold War movie, buddy comedy, romcom, tearjerker) and it's really, really entertaining and movie. in my mind it's 'Oscar bait' in the best sense of the word- a movie with mass appeal that pulls off a lot that isn't pandering or contrived.

an extra 'and' woops

I don't understand the racist/Trump connection in Three Billboards at all. I

The glibness with which it waves aside Rockwell's sadism and racism, and how the film adds black heroes that make Sidney Poitier look like Bull Connor, plus makes a joke of its flirtation with vigilantism, is damn gross. I'll grant you that the only Trump connection is the insistence on being "color blind"

I don't dislike The Shape of Water; I understand why Oscar voters preferred it to Pan's Labyrinth.

It'd be a miracle for Get Out or Lady Bird to win tbh.

Really? Seem like both have a built in narrative would give the academy a pat on the back.

was Silence of the Lambs the last horror-ish thing to win?

(no "so bad it was scary" joke responses pls)

They did that last year. Could get a big enough pat by giving the prize to a film made by a Mexican or Irish guy (they think; I think it's all a self-conscious game of keeping up appearances).

xxp

no horror(ish) since Lambs, no

Considering putting a few dollars down on Get Out for BP, good odds

They did that last year. Could get a big enough pat by giving the prize to a film made by a Mexican or Irish guy (they think; I think it's all a self-conscious game of keeping up appearances).

xxp

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doesn't mean they're not going to do it again. They absolutely will- Lady Bird represents #metoo, Get Out is Black Lives Matter / more atonement for #OscarsSoWhite, and apparently Three Billboards is Trump's America (the movie many people won't admit voting for). The confluence of ready-made narratives & a really stellar list of movies to match is rare.

That's the problem this year. Everything comes to Oscar night with causes attached to every limb, like leeches.

... save for Phantom Thread!

that's the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. at least the movies are good this year

PTA is going to end up like Altman, Hitchcock, Lynch, Scorsese (yea yea i know 2006). Lifetime achievement award in 20-30 years, maybe a belated win like Scorsese.

Bigelow/Detroit shut out. (Didn't see it.)

No one's talked about that movie in months that I can recall, beyond the Best Song category.

Yeah, I remember telling my relatives about that Detroit song at Thanksgiving, and how it might land an Oscar nomination.

Bigelow//Detroit/ shut out. (Didn't see it.)

domestic gross: $16.8 M

(in 2009, The Hurt Locker was $17 M btw)