The box reveal was super hokey.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link
I thought the stuffed animal in the last episode was a monkey?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link
yeah, there’s a vagueness, just kind of “here’s another stuffed animal”
― mh, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link
I really, really hope the next season of Black Mirror is them taking old episodes and re-editing/reshooting scenes to make them vastly better. Maybe then I would be wowed.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
I want an off-brand Black Mirror ripoff with stories like this: https://www.techspot.com/news/72899-smartphone-battery-explodes-after-man-bites.html
― mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
browned glass
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link
'Black Mirror' also a reference to an Aztec scrying stone John Dee ended up in possession of iirc
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
I liked most of these but accepted the 'do you see' factor as inevitable
what do you think of 'the social network' in terms of being a fincher-directed black mirror episode?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 January 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link
Half way season 3 and this is all just fine
Maybe a couple really good episodes
The shut up and dance episode was the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while but it was good for the lolz
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
Also yeah weird fetishization of american stereotypes by the british in this show is hilarious bc they’re about half right or something is always off/odd about it
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
where are people talking about "electric dreams"? 'kill all others' feels like the best black mirror episode in a while
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
Haven’t watched itHOOS recommending it?
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
its hit or miss overall, some great performances mixed in with boring or uncompelling plots, or inventive ideas paired with wooden acting. half very good and half meh. it's generally distinct enough in tone and approach from black mirror but 'kill all others' felt like it could have been a black mirror episode.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
a whole episode starring steve buscemi ffs and i could not have been less interested in the outcome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
I thought 'The Commuter' was great.
― mirostones, Monday, 8 October 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
yeah, haunting!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
so this choose your own adventure thing then...
― Number None, Friday, 28 December 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
Just started the first run-through.
First niggle: when he gets on the bus The Now cassette starts mid-song but the tape is on the run-in because you can see the pink tape.
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
insufferable
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 29 December 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link
More fucking Brooker crap.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:22 (five years ago) Bookmark
― calzino, Saturday, 29 December 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link
damn this is frumious as hell
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 29 December 2018 03:40 (five years ago) link
I thought it was ok. Not the strongest black mirror but not the worst.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Saturday, 29 December 2018 03:41 (five years ago) link
the tree structure allows you five to six endings averaging 90 minutes, but I don't expect anyone's going to get to the other 3.5 hours of footage by the end of the first day
someone post when they figure out how to unlock the next scene by giving the therapist's emergency phone number, we did not get it right. 0451 was of course one number short.
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 29 December 2018 09:48 (five years ago) link
It’s 20541 iirc?
― gyac, Saturday, 29 December 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link
ah! perhaps the secondary fork responds to 20451 instead of 20541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAtAyycx-uY
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 29 December 2018 10:19 (five years ago) link
I'm more impressed at the ambition and how seamless the experience was than the ~90 min of story/acting/dialogue I watched, which was so-so. I think the concept and the platform narrow a lot of what the story can be, and it felt similar to the Zero Escape video game series, which had more possibilities and a much more interesting story (but, of course, has the freedom of a video game). would love to learn about how they wrote and made the episode tho
the therapist's phone number was completely spelled out in my viewing, not sure if that's always the case. would bet there's some Easter eggs for other numbers but have no desire to try anything out
― Vinnie, Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
Yeah i probably won’t return to this. I wonder if it really has staying power as an approach to storytelling. Something tells me it doesn’t—choose your own adventure books never seriously caught on, much as I loved Midnight at Monster Mansion as a seven year old.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
Choose Your Own Adventure, as published by Bantam Books, was one of the most popular children's series during the 1980s and 1990s, selling more than 250 million copies between 1979 and 1998
― Number None, Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link
They were no Fighting Fantasy
― Driving Drone for Christmas (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link
Popular children’s genre fine
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
But it didn’t seem to have a lasting impact on fiction, generally
Could say that about almost anything that isn't vanilla Realism tbf
― Driving Drone for Christmas (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
It is strange that no child of the '80s has attempted a literary take on CYOA. Unless they have and I missed it?
― Number None, Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
dude those books were huge. a friend of mine wrote a Fringe Festival play that was a Choose Your Own Adventure and it sold out most performances.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
xpost
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link
I think half the books in my 3rd grade classroom's library were CYOA lol
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
Although it may have been an influence on e.g. House of Leaves now that I think about it
― Number None, Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
I loved CYOA. I think we watched 2 hours of this last night. The storyline was ok but it was still kind of fun.
― Yerac, Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
oh shit, i forgot about house of leaves. i should read that again.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
I did get annoyed at some of the choices that really had only one correct answer very early on. like the whole "do you make the game on-site or at home" choice. in a real CYOA, you'd never hit a story-ender that fast.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
I did intentionally sabotage the computer for LOLs tho
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
I had to stop watching last night and wondered if it'd save all my choices when I restarted. apparently it does!
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
this was a semi-literary (half-literary, half-pulpy) attempt at a recent CYOA which was worth a read
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Not-Chooseable-Path-Adventure/dp/0735212198/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1546098189&sr=8-3&keywords=ryan+north
― there are no good podcasts (||||||||), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
he did "romeo and/or juliet" toohttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Romeo-Juliet-Ryan-North/dp/0356508536/ref=pd_sbs_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0356508536&pd_rd_r=742609aa-0b80-11e9-8210-ed08ba772cb1&pd_rd_w=xjzYS&pd_rd_wg=oOt6c&pf_rd_p=18edf98b-139a-41ee-bb40-d725dd59d1d3&pf_rd_r=4N1MK93MDEH9ZV9QSS58&psc=1&refRID=4N1MK93MDEH9ZV9QSS58
― there are no good podcasts (||||||||), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
There are a few other CYOA for adults. Alina Reyes' Behind Closed Doors and Life's Lottery by Kim Newman come to mind.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Saturday, 29 December 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
I think the reason why there aren't that many literary CYOA books is because the format is naturally ludic, which doesn't gel with a lot of literature. Even Oulipo's ludic qualities are more to do with creation than reception. Elements that make up CYOA are, however, pretty frequently used in literary & avant-garde fiction: non-linearity, metafic, hypertextuality, etc. There's some interesting stuff on Milorad Pavic and hyperfiction here, though the English is a little stilted.
Anyway, I thought this was a lot of fun. I don't really expect Black Mirror to be anything other than "entertaining dystopian sci-fi" and it still surprises me to see people criticise it for not being more than that. Like, no, Brooker's not even close to being a genius, but this is p fun, right????
― emil.y, Saturday, 29 December 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
in a real CYOA, you'd never hit a story-ender that fast.
Ha, I've definitely experienced 1-choice story-enders in modern IF takes on CYOA. So perhaps not period-appropriate but definitely *a thing*.
― emil.y, Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Yeah, one of the things I liked was that some choices ended quickly like I remember the books doing.
― Yerac, Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
interesting, emil.y. will read that link.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link