Oscars 2018

a 'difficult' film that died at the box office? yes.

I'd put money on Zimmer, that score is amazing, I only watched the first half of that movie but was completely blown away both by the concept-- "let's have a single continuous piece of music with a constantly accelerating and decelerating tempo, and float from scene to scene from timeline to timeline following the mood but not the cuts"-- and execution

Greenwood should've won for The Master imho, best modern score imho

mother! was robbed!

five thirty eight is leaning towards The Shape of Water, too:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/oscars-2018-early-predictions-nominations/

meanwhile Richard Brody has words for those of us who thought Tiffany Haddish was awful announcing the nominations:

Even the jokes that she made of her mispronunciations on the nominations broadcast—referring to the town in the title of “Three Billboards” as “Ebony, Missouri,” or calling the star of “Get Out,” Daniel Kaluuya, “Kahlúa” and “Kallelujah”—are marks of improvisational genius.

damn brody let us know when the shuttle lands

was personal shopper eligible this year?

I think it was caught in between 2016/2017. Opened in the US in March, but premiered abroad in 2016. Same thing with the new Almodovar.

It was. So was BPM. (One-week release in LA is all that counts.)

https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/90th_reminder_list.pdf

Julieta was '16, both on the general release list and as the Spanish f.l.f. submission.

I have my grandchildren — the two children of my son Mathieu — who live in Los Angeles. I will be with them until I go to the place of the Oscar. No problem. No anxiety!

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/agns-varda-does-not-care-about-being-oldest-oscar-nominee.html

LOVE that!

"place of the Oscar" much better than Kodak Theater

Casey Affleck withdrew from presenting the best actress oscar.

ah I was wondering about that today. wonder who it'll be then

Leo then? Or a political choice- something to do with #MeToo?

Oprah?

oh hell yeah

people talking about awards season shit before 10am pic.twitter.com/CE52AJFPtZ

— Michael Lieberman (@michaelagrammar) January 26, 2018

saw 3BB last night, I liked it far more than I was expecting to after having seen all kinds of backlash against it, from along the lines that Alfred painted to Rebecca Solnit who thought it was an unfair caricature of the South and cops (!!!). the characters in it are nuanced and have more than one side, certainly; I don't think it really excuses anything they do; and at no point is anyone ever really 'good' or 'bad' except for probably Woody. I don't think you're supposed to think well of McDormand and Rockwell going off to do what they think they're going to do at the end. Dunno.

Anyway I don't think it'll win; it's was fine but hardly best picture material. It's certainly no In Bruges!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/25/shape-of-water-oscars-paul-zindel-similarities

In both stories, a female cleaner works a night shift at a lab and falls for an aquatic creature that is the subject of mysterious science experiments. Both women develop a relationship by bringing food to the animal and dancing with a mop in front of the tank to the tune of a love song.

The two cleaner characters both learn to communicate with the creatures, and both labs are involved in secretive military operations. The protagonists both discover imminent plans to kill the creature, and both labs mention “vivisection”.

Both women also devise plans to rescue the animal and release it to the sea by sneaking it out in a laundry cart. In Let Me Hear You Whisper, named after a song lyric that the laboratory plays for the dolphin, the creature repeatedly says “hamper” to the protagonist, Helen, to encourage her to get a laundry cart.

Both women are friends with another janitor who helps them – Danielle in one version of Zindel’s work and Zelda in Del Toro’s film, played by Octavia Spencer, who was nominated for an acting Oscar alongside Hawkins.

There are also major differences in the two stories. In The Shape of Water, the main character, Elisa, is mute and communicates in sign language with the creature.

Helen speaks, but does reference muteness when discussing the dolphin’s inability to talk to the scientists, saying: “Some human beings are mute, you know. Just because they can’t talk, we don’t kill them.”

The Shape of Water also has another significant character: Elisa’s gay friend, played by Richard Jenkins. There are further substantial differences in the endings of the two works.

I usually watch any BP nom, but should I bother with Darkest Hour?

No

A nothing of a movie that assumes its scaffolding is supported by one performance.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/shortcuts/2018/feb/06/agnes-varda-cut-out-oscars-french-film-maker

awesome! all downhill from here

I've considered bringing a cutout to class tbh

well but here the other nominees noticed the difference *RIMSHOT*

I said bring a cutout, not a cutup.

on a relevant note, see the Rip Torn thread

they're baaaack

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/tags/474-academy-awards

im waiting for that hollywood reporter (?) annual series where they get people in the academy to speak anonymously and candidly about what they voted for, those are always the best

maybe they'll tell us that they always thought McCartney a shirty basset and who fucked Marlon Brando in a washing machine.

*shitty bassist, but I like how auto correct assumed I meant Shirley Bassey

xp I thought you were calling Melissa McCarthy a shirty basset

xxp pffffft lmao

the Beatles Derangement Syndrome itt is so wild & inexplicable when it's easily the least interesting or controversial bit in either of the QJ interviews

im waiting for that hollywood reporter (?) annual series where they get people in the academy to speak anonymously and candidly about what they voted for, those are always the best

isn't it always the same grumpy asshole with terrible taste?

Lol maybe but it is reliably hilarious

isn't it always the same grumpy asshole with terrible taste?

― Simon H.,

somebody dig up Ernest Borgnine

Or Morbs.

heyyyyyyyyyy now!

I agree, that was beneath me.

who let jeffrey tambor in here

a forgiving tranny?

iirc he's the one who needs forgiveness

yeah i read the news

front page of the new york times

[url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/confessions-of-an-oscar-voter-why-i-loved-three-billboards-and-dont-get-get-out?ref=home]Michael Musto[/i] talks to the usual Anonymous Voter[/i], whom he should have set on fire:

Best Actor?

It’s absolutely Gary Oldman. Ironically, I’ve seen Darkest Hour five times and have absolutely enjoyed it five times. The only reason I don’t think it will win Best Picture is because it’s too safe. The Shape of Water is very slick, but there’s no risk involved in Darkest Hour.

What about the supporting categories?

[For Best Supporting Actor], for me, it was a toss-up between Sam Rockwell [for Three Billboards] and Willem Dafoe [for The Florida Project]. I’m going for Sam Rockwell for the same reason as Frances McDormand. He was pitch-perfect. He had to straddle the line between monster and hero, and he did it perfectly. The Florida Project was one of my favorite movies of the year. I was disappointed it did not make the list [for Best Picture]. I thought Willem Dafoe was absolutely perfect in bridging the gap between seasoned actors and newcomers.

But Rockwell win win?

Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, because Florida Project did not get [nominated for] Best Picture or even screenplay, I think the chance of Dafoe has gone way down.

Your thoughts on Daniel Day-Lewis’ swan song, Phantom Thread?

I liked it, but it’s definitely something where the whole is a lot better than the sum of its parts. You had to sit through this excruciatingly slow film to appreciate the ending and find the film really good, while Three Billboards and The Shape of Water and most of the other nominees were enjoyable from beginning to end.