I HATE APPLE

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mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

not saying they're going to be making money selling iPods in 2018 - rather that it doesn't seem smart to me to not even bother to do the bare minimum to keep some segment of your customer base happy when your entire business model is based around locking people into a software/hardware system. and I say that as someone who genuinely wanted to spend hundreds of $$$ every couple years on new iPhones

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link

It seems more like the kind of thing that might foster brand loyalty and good feeling rather than actually make them money.

That said, you know what technology is still going strong and probably should be supported? Analog headphone connectors!

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link

I forgot to fume about headphone jacks in my list upthread

do you back the phone/pod up anywhere?

I put podcasts on a phone and delete them from the phone once I've listened to them. Last did a backup of the ipod library a couple of years ago, but I have vastly more mp3s than can fit on it. (I say "have," but they're on external drives in a storage locker on the other side of the planet...)

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

I'm probably the least into music person on all of ILX so my opinion barely counts but I sure as heck appreciate not having to "have" "media files" anymore.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link

Since this is the I HATE APPLE thread I will say that I hope I don't have to buy a laptop ever again. If this one ever dies I'll probably just live without a "proper computer", it's a hassle and it isn't good for much.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link

It seems more like the kind of thing that might foster brand loyalty and good feeling rather than actually make them money.

brand loyalty is kinda what makes them money isn't it? there's Apple, the Apple software, and the Apple accessories...and then there's everything else.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link

uh what makes them money is selling hardware to people at a profit, is that what you're referring to as "everything else"?

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link

what do yall think about a music player/storage device built into the headphone itself?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

you'll just do anything to get rid of our beloved conventional headphones won't you

j., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

xp don't like. headphones have enough quality issues/quirks without adding extra crap. i don't even like active noise-canceling

Nhex, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

I taped an ipod shuffle to my headphones once

mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

Gotta say, I do appreciate that when a program freezes up Force Quit "just works", in a satisfyingly immediate fashion. On Windows 7 it seems like when I terminate something from the process manager, it'll often just sit there frozen for a while before it decides to finally fuck off.

Dan I., Monday, 29 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

Was it always thus, by the way? I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit in every OS I use.

Dan I., Monday, 29 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

i almost never need to force quit so it may be something special about your suite?

Mordy, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link

stuff used to crash all the damn time to the extent you’d have to reboot your computer!!

mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

half of the 90s was rebooting computers any time you tried to run anything more complex than lotus 1-2-3

mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

so big news today I thought about production being cut back on the iPhone X. I don't remember hearing anything similar about any older iPhone model this soon after its launch.

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

everyone’s a supply chain expert these days

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link

I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit

my macbook is that old, w/ somewhat newer but not up to date os and browser, and the browser hangs all the fuckin time. some other programs too, but browsers are the worse. really thwarts the use of force quitting, too, since it can take forever to even get the window up to confirm.

j., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link

ah the new web is the problem though, old web’d never leave ya hanging

*curses you with a 2004 javascript engine*

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link

oh word, I forgot that programs crashing in the bad old days took the whole system down with them more often than not.

Dan I., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link

No, I disagree. The last ipod classic was produced in 2014, that is just a little more than 3 years ago, that does not make it antique.

An enterprise which wants to build a strong link with the customers should care for support. It would be easy for them to change the battery pack but the thing is it is financially not interesting, that is why they do not do it, I suppose. And I have decided for myself that I am not going to support this company who does not care for my interests anymore, it is as easy as that.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:56 (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right, i see what you mean now

btw that new keyboard-randomiser bug has to go. i'm sick to death of ios throwing up some random fucking keyboard every time i switch apps.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link

e.g. i have the chinese zhuyin keyboard for when a taiwanese person wants to type something on my phone, but at least 50% of the time ios goes "oh btw here's that zhuyin keyboard you only use twice a month", not the english/pinyin keyboards i use literally all the god damned time

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link

yea it's Russian roulette whether i actually get Gboard or not

by which i mean, every so often my phone actually shoots a bullet into my head. questionable imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link

I've deleted the main English one, which maximises my chances of getting Gboard

Alba, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

i don’t trust google to not scrape all my typing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:36 (six years ago) link

which is a shame, because it looks like it would solve all my problems

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link

I'm loving SwiftKey, got it after it was mentioned in this thread

willem, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link

ios swiftkey still doesn’t do chinese, which is right out for me

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software-quality-extends-to-mac/

lol hasn't this been like the focus for the past 5 years? every year the theme seems to be 'this version of OSX has a lot of under the hood improvements' but i guess this year it'll be even more about 'under the hood improvements'

, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

they've half-assed it with the "we need to support new technology X or device Y and those aren't high-profile features but require a lot of internal rework to implement" so they've sold it as internal improvements

the big ones, which are more software features than optimization/intense testing, would be APFS and supporting security across devices imo

still kind of wacky that I can make a purchase on the web on macOS using Apple Pay and it detects my nearby phone and has me authenticate on that device

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

does windows have the feature of being able to change which language it's spell-checking/auto-correcting/suggestions within a single sentence, basically just as you type it?

like when I type c'est-à-dire it's like I ate a pizza hier, aujourd'hui et demain without mushrooms ou oignons.

that's the os x feature I love the most

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

i can't get my phone to do that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

the mac product line is abandonware, and the OS is getting there

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

macOS is mostly backported iOS stuff and I'm worried it's only there to support development/deployment of iOS apps tbh

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

xp yeah I'm not sure if my phone does that but my MBP certainly does & I would be loathe to give that up given my multi-lingual workflow

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

In my continual search for my next computer, I "upgraded" my 2014 15" MacBook Pro to a maxed out 2015 13", the fastest and possibly last MacBook Pro that Apple ever made.

— Gary Bernhardt (@garybernhardt) January 30, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

:/ it's such a dumb mistake why don't they take a minute and make a really nice new MBP

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

the main complaints about the modern ones are the touch bar and the strict adherence to usb-c over all else, right? and some keyboard complaints

actually that does sound bad when I list then like that

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

and that it's not a slam dunk hardware improvement over models many years older?

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

they'd like everyone to switch over to iDevices i think but MBP's are much more convenient for shit like work. idk wtf is wrong w/ them tbph. assuming nothing changes once the MBP i'm typing this on dies i'm almost certainly going back to PC.

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

all i want is a new mini. I'm hobbling here

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

my 8yo mac is still on low sierra because of all the recent press, and i've not replaced it because of how underwhelmed people have been with the new ones. what the fuck apple.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

Maybe a low end iMac?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

Or refurb

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

current plan is to wait until this dies and see what's going. if apple decides to build a good macbook, done. otherwise, yeah, refurb. don't think i could endure a desktop these days tbh.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

I want a good thunderbolt 3 enabled laptop so I can be a dumbass and try the external graphics card rig

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

what's the best non-Mac laptop atm?

, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

I think the Dell one with the tiny bezel?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link


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