the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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It was 'Soul of an Octopus' and it's right at the top of my reading list right now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link

they have heartbreakingly short lifespans for such intelligent creatures tho, as anyone who remembers paul the world-cup-result-predicting octopus, who died a couple of months after the 2010 world cup, will attest

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

yeah it was sy montgomery's 2011 article which got me interested in octopuses (and stopped me eating calamari): https://orionmagazine.org/article/deep-intellect/

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link

lol at how evolution so-called news merely dodges the from-another-planet theory via "no one thinks that" -- iirc i think that therefore it's science's job to prove me wrong with science i'm waiting

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

(xp) Paul was the real trailblazer though, I feel.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

octopuses and mushrooms are both alien intelligences iirc

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

Blue Planet II brought the definitive octo-smarts mindblowage.

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

srsly

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

I bought my wife a book about the interior life of octopuses at the weekend, key finds are a) they can recognise individual human faces and b) their potential for petulance and spite is quite astonishing.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:31 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Which book was it?

Octopuses obv best creature ever

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

I am terrified of octopuses and squids, they make me feel really nervous, they seem smart and capable of scary damage and the whole alien-DNA thing is something I don't want to think about

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

octopuses are v good boys, squid can fuck off and die imo

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

Happy to eat all the squid.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link

also i think there was an episode of River Monsters where they ate children or something idk

i'm not saying the kids deserved to be eaten by octopuses, i'm just saying can we be sure they didn't deserve to be eaten by octopuses

river monsters has def introduced me to some cthulhoid nightmares i'd much rather have remained in blissful ignorance about ybh

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

meanwhile back at the scuzzface:

From the Independent on Sunday, 24 Jan 2010. "Tucked into the girls". No one gave a toss, apparently. pic.twitter.com/u0Kxq8m77i

— India Knight (@indiaknight) January 24, 2018

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

eurgh

also 'coat-hanger tycoon' is a thing apparently

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link

interesting that harvey goldsmith is named as being there in 2010 after his pearl-clutching response to this year's event in the ft piece

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

felix salmon: https://causeandeffect.fm/regrettable-1822371840

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

coathangin's too good for 'em.

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

you don't even wanna know how much they overcharge octopuses for those things

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

I watched this doc about huge apocalyptic blooms of jellyfish consuming all life in their path, fucking hideous alien bastards they are. I thought all life is ultimately og extra terrestrial apart from Frank Field tho.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

They’re all just sorry they got caught and normally they can be found clutching something mauvish that ain’t pearls.

Again: David Walliams is a sleazy tosser.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

That Amia Srinivisan LRB review of those Octopus books from last year was fucking banging, going straight to order that book before I forget again

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

thread has taken a delightful turn from spineless cowards to spineless heroes

Simon H., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

i for one welcome our new octopoid overlords

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link

also 'coat-hanger tycoon' is a thing apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQChiYxsdcU

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:01 (six years ago) link

I’d highly recommmend Stung! by Lisa-Ann Gershwin if you want to know more about jellyfish and how they are going to take over the world.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

for the purposes of siphoning off this thread's good content in a fun-hating way:
D'AWWWWCTOPUS: post yr images of adorable octopuses here (no squid allowed)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

surprise secondary market in charity auction prizes:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-24/boe-says-presidents-club-prize-was-an-unauthorized-re-auction

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

i guess this isn't the right detail to complain about at this point but the hostesses were paid £150, an effing paltry amount.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

“The bank has a clear policy on the charities with which it is associated and this does not include the Presidents Club“, as of .5 milliseconds before the issueing of this statement.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

Camilla Long seeking out the Hopkins market

I'd be pretty depressed if I were the FT and a report on some idiotic tits gala was the all-time most-read piece

— Camilla Long (@camillalong) January 24, 2018

stet, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

Presidents Club disbanding now.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

She does understand that the rest of the FT is behind a paywall, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

She's trying to make the case that this is a nothing story, that everybody knew about it, it was just some hands on hips lets be cool, that this won't change anything, it's just clickbait -- basically like it's 2010 and feigning not caring about anything is still a good look.

stet, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

Comparing it to the Spearmint Rhino is particularly dishonest given it's pretty obvious that a lot of the women involved here had absolutely no idea what they were letting themselves in for.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

largely i think she's positioning herself for contrarian talking-head roles on this and similar topics

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

the thought of a intelligent Oakeshott/Hopkins fills me w/dread

stet, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

isn't that just peter hitchens?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Camilla Long isn’t even an intelligent Camilla Long.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

bingo

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

It just occurred to me that you can actually polish a turd, when it starts glistening is when it has transformed into a Hitchens.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

beginnings of a guest-list:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/guest-list-presidents-club-all-male-charity-gala?CMP=share_btn_tw

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

Camilla Long isn’t even an intelligent Camilla Long.

― kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:17 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2767360/Journalist-Camilla-Long-claimed-shamefully-molested-Dave-Lee-Travis-five-months-arrested.html

... it lays bare exactly how a bearded pipe-smoking hippy believed he had the right to behave exactly as he pleased in the company of women.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

"The allegation resulted in The Chuckle Brothers – his co-stars in the 1990 panto at a theatre in Crawley, Sussex – coming to court in his defence."

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

at least one Chuckle Bro has form for this iirc

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

blobbytoilet.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2018/01/child-poverty-statistics-are-george-osbornes-final-legacy

(apologies for link to the new statesman's fuck-awful website)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

https://foodfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/F23.jpg

This UNICEF graph tells you where the UK is at r/n.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link


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