the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Camilla Long isn’t even an intelligent Camilla Long.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

bingo

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

It just occurred to me that you can actually polish a turd, when it starts glistening is when it has transformed into a Hitchens.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

beginnings of a guest-list:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/guest-list-presidents-club-all-male-charity-gala?CMP=share_btn_tw

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

Camilla Long isn’t even an intelligent Camilla Long.

― kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:17 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2767360/Journalist-Camilla-Long-claimed-shamefully-molested-Dave-Lee-Travis-five-months-arrested.html

... it lays bare exactly how a bearded pipe-smoking hippy believed he had the right to behave exactly as he pleased in the company of women.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

"The allegation resulted in The Chuckle Brothers – his co-stars in the 1990 panto at a theatre in Crawley, Sussex – coming to court in his defence."

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

at least one Chuckle Bro has form for this iirc

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

blobbytoilet.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2018/01/child-poverty-statistics-are-george-osbornes-final-legacy

(apologies for link to the new statesman's fuck-awful website)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

https://foodfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/F23.jpg

This UNICEF graph tells you where the UK is at r/n.

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link

But but Dunkirk, Gary Oldman as Churchill...

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

bring back rationing, obv

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link

I hope Maconie hasn't seen the graphic, he'll be marching on No. 10 again.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link

Lol Suzy

stet, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

Croatia seems nice.

nashwan, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

Weird that Graun link Mark S posted doesn't have Peter Mandelson on it (or not that I could see) when they were reporting at lunchtime the Labour Party confirmed he was there?

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

i think it's a very incomplete list: assuming more will be added as confirmed?

mark s, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

Yes, but strange not to include something you already confirmed yourself.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

Has Maconie got back from his march on No 10 yet?

the pinefox, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:37 (six years ago) link

Mandelson unlikely to have been joining in with the groping in fairness but he's an absolute past master at turning a blind eye.

Robert Tchenguiz in there I see, funny how these things come around.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:01 (six years ago) link

A lot of random sons and grandsons of established businessmen there. There are so many well known names on there already that there's no way this story doesn't snowball.

It's probably done for Dragon's Den in any case.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:08 (six years ago) link

A possibility the Graun may have out-Graun'd itself by confusing Mandy with Jon Mandelson yesterday.

In other news about this event, it transpires the Indy ran a diary piece 8 years ago with the same content as the FT story and nobody noticed. (last item on page)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/slackberry-hornby-considers-guru-to-aid-rehab-1876933.html

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link

*Mendelsohn*

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:14 (six years ago) link

If my phone autocorrects one to the other then I've even made their excuse for them.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:14 (six years ago) link

one of the B-plots from McMafia has some uncomfortable/spot-on resonances with this story

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:33 (six years ago) link

huh who could have foreseen this

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It said political uncertainties and problems with the design and implementation of the much-delayed project, currently around five years behind schedule, meant universal credit presented a “significant risk” to public spending.

The OBR pointed out that some of the gross savings from universal credit were predicated on driving through cuts to relatively large numbers of families. The Resolution Foundation has said cuts to the generosity of universal credit will leave 1m working households an average of £2,800 a year worse off by 2022.

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:29 (six years ago) link

But but Dunkirk, Gary Oldman as Churchill...

speaking of which...

NEW - Trump told Theresa May she could be the new Churchill pic.twitter.com/ldiBzwK5P0

— Ben Riley-Smith (@benrileysmith) January 24, 2018

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:35 (six years ago) link

"While the remark was not an explicit Continued on page 5"

Mark G, Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link

Fucking Churchill, what a curse that cunt is on this country.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

Gary Old ham should have been shot after Prick Up Your Ears. May should have been shot after the last election. These are the only parallels I can draw between May and that pile of drivel.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:53 (six years ago) link

and Dungkirk ffs! what a pox Nolan is on this country as well.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:54 (six years ago) link

May should have been shot after the last election

generous imo

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 11:56 (six years ago) link

and Dungkirk ffs! what a pox Nolan is on this country as well.

Seriously though, I had a conversation with a Spanish colleague of mine on how Churchill will probably be forever casting his morbidly obese shadow over this country - as long as it exists - and asking if there was any similar blight on their history. They only had Franco and the Inquisition to put up with though.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:01 (six years ago) link

and there's not like a million post-75 Spanish movies painting Franco as the saviour of the universe

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link

Any minister of war unwilling to capitulate to Hitler would have done the same job as him, and without smelling liked he's crapped himself in a pub most of the time. Not that they would have been worthy of any adulation at all, either.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:06 (six years ago) link

this isn't the place because fuck the imperialist pig but there might be an argument that Churchill's willingness to fight a dirty, total war was relatively unique amongst senior UK pols at the time and may have played some part in keeping us in the war until Pearl Harbour but i'm sure the guy made as many gung-ho mistakes as he did smart decisions

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:08 (six years ago) link

cf. the Galipoli campaign

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link

WWI was unmitigated manslaughter all round tbf, was thinking specifically of WWII

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:15 (six years ago) link

his conduct at Yalta was abysmal and he was an open laughing stock.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link

oh yeah as i say i just ponder his importance as a scumbag between say 1940 and 1942, once the big boys were in play it was an irrelevance mostly

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

the breaking of the enigma code did more to keep the Uk from capitulation, more than any of his military decisions imo.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link

and his aversion to communism ensured years of bloodshed and a victory for homegrown fascism in Greece. I'll stfu now!

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:28 (six years ago) link

it's a contentious subject wrapped in angry hyperbole, and i'm not remotely knowledgeable to know where the truth may fall: but the place to look for the unravelling of the churchill wartime halo is the bengal famine

mark s, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link

(xxp) thanks to the Poles for the work their codebreakers had already done, and iirc their airmen were invaluable in the Battle of Britain; without those two things we might never have made it to '42

it's a good job we have treated our Polish immigrants with respect and consideration ever since

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link

i think calz is largely right but i understand the desire to want to give the man nothing because of what he believed and because of Bengal and Gallipoli and gassing Iraq and etc

as i say, my one small quibble is whether there was another UK politician of the era who'd've kept the UK in the war for long enough to lay the seeds for the ultimate defeat of the Nazis

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

yeah The Bengal famine was the second holocaust really (in numbers as well) and it was just str 8 requisition and starve like holodomor.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

Churchill was seriously unpopular by 1942, the year of a string of military disasters, Singapore, Tobruk, Dieppe, quite widespread impatience for the opening of a second front, failure of Cripps mission and Quit India blowing up.

Would make for a much better, less stultifyingly clichéd film, Churchill and his government in 1942- in some ways the real 'darkest hour'.

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link

"as i say, my one small quibble is whether there was another UK politician of the era who'd've kept the UK in the war for long enough to lay the seeds for the ultimate defeat of the Nazis"

has there ever been a serious shortage of sociopath arrogant pricks in Parliament? That's all it took imo.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link

http://uk.businessinsider.com/syphilis-mummy-in-basel-related-to-boris-johnson-2018-1

this is a non-story but good work with the headline anyway

mark s, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:51 (six years ago) link


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