RIP Mark E. Smith

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there's them gallaghers but totally agree that they should xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

Just chuckling away at "Cary Grant's Wedding" right now.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

Literally chuckling.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

someone on facebook said he wrote a note to be read to the crowd at the last cancelled show? is there a link to it?

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

I can never tell if “Bill is Dead” is genuinely tender or totally vicious satire. Maybe both, who knows.

Is the Fall's 'Bill is dead' the most romantic song ever written?

Going to go with genuinely tender.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

Just chuckling away at "Cary Grant's Wedding" right now.


^ otm

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

Np YFOC really fuckin loud

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

xxpost Scott, here

A Message to All, to All. From Mark E. Smith/The Fall group. As I, like Pr Rupert leave Bristol with my tail between my legs, I wish to give my great apologies to everybody. This idiotic idea to do both shows was purely my idea, against the advice of Pamela and The Fall group, agent & promoter. Hope to replace shows within 4 - 6 weeks. In the interim we have eight new songs ready to go and will try and let you hear a few before Christmas. From head patient to you, the patients. I love you all but cannot embrace you all, Mark E. Smith

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

just said to a friend:

i'm not interested in sentimentality about this. they always reached beyond, into and around death, mocking and laughing and vicious. idk. memorialise, feel sad, but stand up.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

O
T
M

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

Hard to be sad listening to them, he was so fucking funny.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

YFOC such a classic album xp

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

yes to Fizzles, proper response here is "LOL fuk u death" IMO

sleeve, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUiPs1PxKo

this will never not cheer me up

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

Completely gutted and fucked right now. Someone queue up a the live vers of "NWRA" from the Part of America Therein at brain bleeding volumes and I'll take a Laphroaig and Peroni while yr up.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

Hard to be sad listening to them, he was so fucking funny.


this. such energy and hilarious mockery, cheer and bloody inventiveness and joy in language and the shitness of the world.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link

The great palimpsest

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

yes to Fizzles, proper response here is "LOL fuk u death" IMO

Yarbles. To. Even.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

We need an interview with MES talking abt the recently passed MES and how he, MES, never really was much of a fan of MES, though he was certainly aware of him and was a proper frontman, not dancing about

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

Gotta blast “Garden” when I get home, that song contains so much.

He’s the young generation dancing troupe, trying to perform country and western
(Do a dance here)

He knew the evil of the phone
He knew the evil of the phone
The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose
The bells, stopped, on Sunday, when HE rose!

JoeStork, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

"feel sad, but stand up."

in smoking and drinking years he had to be about 400, no? which is why i'm not shocked i guess. though i don't know what his final illness was.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

xp to LBI Gideon Coe playing lots of Fall on 6Music now, public service broadcasting...

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link

A magnificent rebus, like Dylan on the wrong meds.
(and a brief nod to Von Südenfed, one of my great faves)

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link

yes that Von Südenfed album is fantastic

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

"I will leave this fucking dump".

Sorry it's impossible to listen to the Fall and not quote every other line.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

I really need that Von Südenfed record, thanks for reminder

sleeve, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

xxxp - part of the charm. almost felt like he'd conquered death, the way he lived

was always surprised by how *young* he was, compared to the way he looked

hard to process this one. dude was so brilliant, can't think of another lyricist quite like him, and I was always amazed how seamlessly The Fall were able to transition from one era to the next

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

Even if your granny shows up with some bongos, it still won’t be The Fall. R.I.P.

spastic heritage, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/user/bentelec/playlist/7tbIoONKtyQtSsrsnzD0VQ

A spotify playlist, from the ILX tracks/ballot

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

"I will leave this fucking dump".

Sorry it's impossible to listen to the Fall and not quote every other line.


happy to quote from whatever i’m listening to:

“the old golden savages
killed their philosophers.
thought brought the drought about
something followed me OUT.”

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

xp Neil, ta, blasting it now

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

The greatest lyricist in musical history, to such an extent that the word ‘lyrics’ is unfit to describe what he did. Other than miles, probably the greatest assembler-of-performers-into-something-unforeseeable there ever was.

These are close to my exact thoughts (expressed better than I could have done). He was a true "visionary" -- as overused as that term may be -- who realized his vision over & over, in a way that made both the expression, and the intent behind the expression, seem entirely sui generis.

I hope he's walking back among us soon, in an expanded / remastered / dodgy-label 2CD version. RIP forever...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

The longer late album cuts, like Couples vs. Jobless, Weather Report, Blindness, 50 Year Old Man, Dr. Bucks' Letter are probably my favorite mode of MES songwriting. Those songs are tunnels to get lost in. You emerge at the end and it's a different day.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

xP.S. -- if indeed "There are twelve people in the world / The rest are paste" -- I think we were just left with only 11...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

"Stop eating all that chocolate. Eat salad instead. In fact, you're a half-wit."

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

He was the first
To wear an idiotic jacket
In the pub

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:50 (six years ago) link

From the "Record Collection Rock" thread, 2018.

the fall were maybe the pioneers in this field, they obviously borrowed from a whole host of cool but also not-so-cool influences, but then again they don't really fit because it never seemed like just a shallow exercise in showing off what hip records they were into

MES, "New Puritan", 1980.

I curse your preoccupation
With your record collection
New puritan has no time
It's only music, John

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

“i’m at the barrier between writer and singer” printhead

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

typical of course for him to see it gleefully as a barrier.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

Who tells you what
To tape on your vid. chip
How do you know the progs you miss
Are worse than those you single out?
And what'll you do when the rental's up?
And your bottom rack is full of vids
Of programs you will nay look at
The way they act is, oh, sheer delight
Cardboard copyright
Make it right

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

poetry FFS

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

mystical magical ranter, rest in peace.

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

More from Riley tomorrow on M6 I hear. Have to feel for the lad a bit, he did a proper job earlier tonight. MES said this about him in his last interview:

"Years ago you told me you were offered a BBC 6Music show, would you like to do one yet?
No, I’d love to do radio but think of the politics involved. I mean they have Guy fucking Garvey on, don’t they? It’s the kiss of death. Imagine having to say hello to Marc Riley every day. "

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

how flair is punished

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

i think he, they get it? i mean they would have got and did get far far worse.

grotesque so otm as an album.

“The grotesque peasants stalk the land
And deep down inside you know everybody wants to like big companies...”

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link

Cheers for the heads up Neil S

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

Jesus Christ, "C n' C/ Stop Mithering"!!!!!!! You could be here all night quoting from that one.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

"ted rogers brains burn in hell"

calzino, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

posted on the other thread

as someone who always feels a little bit weird abt public grief over celebrities I have to say I feel fucking devastated and honestly don;t know what to do with myself

an inferno of a human being and a monster poet who shaped my perspective from a young age and more than any other artist hot wired my brain and inspired me to keep moving sideways

I'm so full of gratitude to him for refusing to ever rest in peace. I hope that now he can.

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link


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