RIP Mark E. Smith

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Fucking Echo + the Bunnymen never put Ted Rogers brains in hell.


there’s a g good live version of the words of expectation on the reissue of room to live where he says, with a supercilious clip, a bit of a downcast eye, but not at all overemphasised, all casual and ndiffeeent like - “echo and the bunnymen, joy diviZHUN” and i love it so much.

he had so much variation of tone. for someone who doesn’t sing but just shouts ofc.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

i can't believe there is never going to be another fall record

what the fuck

― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:16 (fifty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

think they have another record in the can actually

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link

also may he live on in an endless run of spuriously sourced live recordings released on labels no one has ever heard of, as above so below

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link

This recent interview was bit of the balm I needed

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/24/final-interview-with-mark-e-smith-the-fall-people-still-cross-the-road-from-me

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

hating Elton John until the end, good man

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

I thought he'd live another 20 years in spite of the reports. This blows.

trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

yeah obv he has looked so awful for the past year and I get it that we should have seen it coming but I just figured he would ride out what ever this illness was and keep doing his thing

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link

that philip k dick bit hahaha

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

"Arnie gets it"

JRN, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link

Might be time to retire the display name.

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

"You wouldn't even know the sun was up unless there was a press release on it"
was just getting into this site too
http://annotatedfall.doomby.com/

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

"whaddaya mean what's it mean?"

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

LOLz. MES was so hilarious.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link

Not much I can say, I'm in a weird space. Just checking in. But all that work survives and will, and Neil S "the best thing this terrible country has produced in the last 60 years" otm, otm otm for fucking ever.

woof, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link

Is it important for you to remain angry?
Yeah. People still cross the road from me; I’ve still got that. I can clear a pub when I want to. It’s a talent.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

scrolled through his discography wondering what to play. eventually got to 'frightened'. it has to be this

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link

LOLz. MES was so hilarious.


srsly tho. impossible not to listen to without a massive grin on your face.

and so otm about pkd adaptations.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

xxp "hate's not your enemy, love's your enemy"

sleeve, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

Why didn't you take better care of yourself, Mark?? I knew this was coming. My favorite band ever. Even love the crappy Fall records. No more Fall records! No more concerts! No more interviews! I will miss you horribly. I feel like it's the end of my youth. :(

Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

I come and stand at every door
But no-one hears my silent plea
I knock and yet remain unseen
For I am dead for I am dead
I need no fruit nor even rice
I need no meat nor even bread
And I need nothing for myself
When children die they do not grow
I woke one day to ash in light
My eyes grew dim my eyes grew bright
Death came and turned my bones to dust
And scattered swirling in the wind
I need no fruit nor even spice
I need no sweet or even bread
And I need nothing for myself

https://img.discogs.com/1RBrttjKInfUguZxH7kn1RD8I1M=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/A-9457-1220655566.jpeg.jpg

Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

xxp murder all bush monkeys

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

Why didn't you take better care of yourself, Mark?? I knew this was coming. My favorite band ever. Even love the crappy Fall records. No more Fall records! No more concerts! No more interviews! I will miss you horribly. I feel like it's the end of my youth. :(


re crappy fall records. a very minor record “don’t take the pizza” contains the line

“your brain cracks each day
from information anxiety”

there are no bad fall records.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link

xxp murder all bush monkeys


lol was about to do that.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link

An Easy Rider coot
Grabbed the edge of my coat
Said: 'You're too smart for here'
I said: 'I'll see the manager'

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

The young black kids get screwed up the worst
They go over to the Hampstead houses
In the English system they implicitly trust
See the A&R civil servants
They get a sex thrill out of a sixteenth of Moroccan

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link

An Easy Rider coot
Grabbed the edge of my coat
Said: 'You're too smart for here'
I said: 'I'll see the manager'


HE WAS THE MANAGER

Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

Comic timing is perfect.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

that thread about best musical experiences of 2017, btw. i gave some answer about a busker but this is the real answer

Listening to The Fall's 'Dedication Not Medication' I stumble across the Freemasons' Central Lodge and gaze up at it in horror

— Louis Jagger (@louisjagger) June 13, 2017

just listened to it again. it is lore

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

from Killdozer via FB

"Mark E. Smith once told Killdozer that our live set was too long, and advised the following formula: "there are three of you, so you should play nine songs."

R.I.P., Wise One."

sleeve, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link

His downfall was a blonde girl
But that's none of your business

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link

Sometimes life is like a new bar,
Plastic seats, beer below par,
Food with no taste, music grates,
I'm living too late.
I'm living too late.

Once talking was my favourite while,
But now I know a conversation's end before it's done.
Maybe I'm living too long.

Thanks, Mark.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

A great anecdote from Roy Montgomery

True story:
(fanboy nobody me somehow gets himself invited to RAK studios early 1982 while The Cure are recording Pornography and this conversation takes place)
Robert Smith: If you aren't doing anything next weekend come to a party. Siouxsie will be there. I think you should meet her.
Me: I can't. I'm going to see The Fall play in Bristol.
RS: Fair enough.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

http://thefall.org/news/980222.html

He saw The Verve and concluded: "God help us if there's a war." At the Phoenix Festival the other year, he looked on as his band were introduced to Lou Reed, and he just thought: sad. What Mark E Smith does is move on, away from the past. You should just get over it. Recently, he went to an exclusive do at the Kensington Roof Gardens, and while the rest of his party mingled, Mark went over to the fountain and began bowing and paying homage. Someone asked what he was doing, and so he told them: this was the very spot, in 1972, where Lou Reed kicked the shit out of David Bowie.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

how old are the stars really?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

"I come and stand at every door"

nice but he didn't actually write any of that, that's a poem by a Turkish poet that Pete Seeger worked on.

akm, Thursday, 25 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link

that’s true. his austere delivery is beautiful tho.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

that entire violent album (levitate) is extraordinary.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

I loved that song he did w/ Mouse on Mars as Von Sudenfed with the lyric about Sven Vath pissing his bed. Flooded it was called.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link

sending the best to ilxors who will be much more upset than me and i am fucking gutted so...

what a fucking hero.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

I loved that song he did w/ Mouse on Mars as Von Sudenfed with the lyric about Sven Vath pissing his bed. Flooded it was called.


^ entire album was great but yes that was hilarious.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

Tom D made me read all of ...Stop Mithering. Jesus Christ, what a mind he had.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

Mark, not Tom lol

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link

that entire violent album (levitate) is extraordinary.

― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:04 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is one of my favourite albums of all time and i've only ever heard it off youtube, low-quality and fragmented (like the album itself tbf). i think he got closer to representing the madness and magic of existence than any other musician i can think of

wish they'd reissue it mind

#TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

watching perverted by language bis. what a beautiful and fucking funny correct man.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

Didn't he once have a violent altercation with some pretentious twat from a Creation indie band. And he called them a bunch of "crusty cunts". This is from deep memory, but I remember thinking thank fuck he exists.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link

Didn't he once have a violent altercation with some pretentious twat from a Creation indie band. And he called them a bunch of "crusty cunts". This is from deep memory, but I remember thinking thank fuck he exists.


yes! will have to find it, but remember that also.

drunk.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

what’s a computer.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link

only saw the Fall twice ('85 and '92), but I'm sure I bought all the records '83-94 or so. RIP you wacko.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:29 (six years ago) link

it was important to me that they were contemptuous of gender as a notion. who cares? smith seemed to say. and not in a good way.

Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

It has just come to me, it was that guy from The House of Love, but not the one that looked like a paedophile supply teacher, the one looked a typical goth.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link


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