RIP Mark E. Smith

It has just come to me, it was that guy from The House of Love, but not the one that looked like a paedophile supply teacher, the one looked a typical goth.

*sigh*

He was an absolute fucking titan in my musical world. i dont want to go to be for work tomorrow, i just wanna listen to The Fall all night

Terry Bickers, and his band was Levitation.

current playlist:

c'n'c-s mithering
winter
winter 2
Shift-Work
Bill Is Dead
Various Times
Dr. Buck's Letter
Paint Work

o god, winter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnwgjoTq1PM

You're history
You've quit existation
You're green grub

xp that's a good list sleeve

RIP. so many people have already said anything i would try to say, but far better than i would have. I was just listening to This Nation's Saving Grace this morning. Can't even be coherent about this right now. Fuck.

Checklist:

I never leave home without: (5)
1. Sunglasses - I wear them all year around, and seem to need them more often, it’s a habit
Music - cassettes, CDs
3. Palm Pilot - it’s my lifeline. I think it’s my P.A.’s computer, (6)
She rules my diary and I download it
4. Mobile phone
5. Amex card - they made such a fuss about giving it to me but I spend more time getting it turned down!

I was in the realm of the essence of Tong.

you don't deserve rock and roll

hey mark

livin' too late

https://youtu.be/6m2lfk4Bm34

It hasn't hit yet, but it's starting

This is a good listen even if you're quite familiar imo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052r0l5

hey mark

Barbara Manning did a great cover of that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv1w-x21pY

An academic kneaded his chin
Sat in the dust of some cheap magazines
His academic rust could not burn them up

A small alteration of the past can turn time into space
Small changes can alter more than a mere decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWVk3h2SA8&feature=share

he looks so wonderful there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJJmdlZoPw

that's my number one LBI

maybe... of course

Oh goes without saying!

I can stumble through yt till the sun comes up. Probably asleep before that. But damn.

just listened to Garden, now cranking "Two-Face!"

All the English groups
Act like peasants with free milk
On a route
On a route to the loot
To candy mountain
Five wacky English proletariat idiots
Californians always think of sex
Or think of death
Five hundred girl deaths
A Mexico revenge, it's stolen land
They really get it off on
"Don't hurt me please"
Rapist fill the TVs
And the secret of their lives
Is S.E.X..

50,000 fall fans cant be wrong.

fuck, i'm just seeing this news.

i started reading the fall just the other night; weird timing (not sure if that's what the band are named after anyway). and i've been listening to the big singles compilation a lot lately, listening to a lot of the fall era that i'd always neglected ('86 - '02). so he has been on my mind quite a bit recently. RIP Mark E Smith.

<3

Trying not to be too sentimental because MES would have hated that. Thanks for the music, fuckface.

Mark would want us all on the Sting should retire thread instead

My favorite band... somehow the thought of whatever posthumous new Fall product emerges fills me with sadness, because I'll buy it knowing that's it (except for whatever live shows/old tapes Cherry Red or whoever decides to dredge(r) up), where with all the other albums that could be the last one you didn't know.

I loved the directness with which he ground a path through the preciousness and anxiety of indie music making in the UK. Like he was the only one who actually knew what he wanted, while everyone else nervously looked at each other for some kind of reaction or validation.

excellent point MK.

it's true that he made the world a better place when he called Mumford & Sons a "mongoloid Irish folk band."

Karl it's always been my understanding that he did in fact take the band name from the Camus book, but I don't have a primary source for that at hand

we need a thread with just MES stories imo

It was clear in the window eye
The brick outlined the blue sky
And I had to go round the gay graduates in the toilets
And Good King Harry was there
Fucking Jimmy Savile

"that entire violent album (levitate) is extraordinary."

yeah I really loved that album. it felt like they were on some other plane there, and to an extent I don't feel like they ever really got back there musically. it's an abstract, weird album; missing winner kind of sucked, marshall was pretty good, everything since has been good but definitely the same musical template to a degree. Maybe Levitate was fueled by some other weird drugs. I don't know.

Mat Osman‏ @matosman

I have a Mark E Smith story actually. Back in the day Suede got asked to support The Fall on a couple of dates. To a man we were massive fans and VERY excited to be asked. Everyone told us he could be rough on support bands but he was great. Lots of time to soundcheck. (1)

He was friendly, helpful, told us to come straight to him with any problem. The shows were great, his crowd were great, The Fall were great. On our way home in the van we were listening to Richard Skinner and he had an interview with Mark. We listened in intently. (2)

Especially when Skinner asked, "Do you like any of the new bands who are calling you an influence." Mark said "Like who?" Skinner asked "Well, like Suede." There was a perfectly timed beat. "Never heard of them."

loooool

It was just me
The hoover
And the OAP

Btw that living too late verse quoted itt, those words go through my mind all the time

Tony Friel was reading The Fall and took the name from the title. My favourite band; this hasn't sunk in properly yet. Had been expecting/dreading it for years, tbh.

The Fall were everything to me

Can't bring myself to listen to any records yet somehow, but following on in the spirit of Mark being funny as fuck, anyone who hasn't already should check out the gigography section of thefall.org. Many many shows include various intros, asides and changed lyrics. And the later ones are just as amazing and strange as the ones from 81 or whenever.

A few choice ones:

"If only you could come from the Nynex gymnasium in your baseball jacket and comprehend. If only." (amended lyrics to "10 Houses of Eve")

"This is the last time you will ever see me reading lyrics again. Don't trust me. I love the carpet of Astoria 2. It's the only carpet that's worse than my house." (amended lyrics to "Spencer Must Die")

"I am Mark E Smith, these are my folk festival boys. Looking out for a grant. One! From the state culture 2000 of Suffolk."

"You walk into glass crystal mazes as the S.S. Viking regiment did. Into black. Into space. Into (...). You walk down into valley of kings. Out of glass. Out of space. In seventies disco lights." (amended lyrics to "Way Round")

"Now, who wrote the GM Vauxhall advert? Was it a, Neville Wilding? Was it 2, Julia Nagle? Or was it c, Richard and Judy? Or was it d? And the answer is e and f put together." (amended lyrics to "Touch Sensitive")

RIP

mes was on a coldcut record over acid house, right? the fall also covered a trucking song. he slagged it all but he quietly loved a lot too. music anyway.

Aw, MES. The Coldcut record is below. Friend who posted it said ‘oh look, he invented LCD Soundsystem!’

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOmwVOTfh8g&t=64s

Andy Zax @andyzax
I would never ordinarily advocate or endorse such a thing, but I feel as if the best tribute one could pay to Mark E Smith tonight would be to find a band playing in a club somewhere, wander onstage, and turn the guitarist’s amp down.

Priory – that's a superb topic / thought. One of the things that were very important to me were how their live shows were often nothing like the records. I still feel aggrieved when groups make every effort to sound exactly like their record releases. The shifting and improvised lyrics were a hilarious and brilliant aspect of that. He was doing it in Manchester last year – commenting at the audience. Can't remember what it was, but i seem to have given myself a massive hangover by staying up till half three drinking and watching Fall vids.

Now up eating cereal and listening to Last Orders and Stepping Out on Live at the Electric Circus.

'Everyone's in prison or in the army, all sincere, all phoney'

a good thing – i'll still be working out and being delighted and astonished by his lyrics till the day i die.

"I think I'll drop out
Become a no man
And live my rules

But I'm the sort that gets out of the bath with a dirty face."

Ha ha, from the same song ('Various Times')

'A good case for
the systems
we like
we get'