o god, winter
― #TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnwgjoTq1PM
You're historyYou've quit existationYou're green grub
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link
xp that's a good list sleeve
RIP. so many people have already said anything i would try to say, but far better than i would have. I was just listening to This Nation's Saving Grace this morning. Can't even be coherent about this right now. Fuck.
― cwkiii, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:49 (six years ago) link
Checklist:
I never leave home without: (5)1. Sunglasses - I wear them all year around, and seem to need them more often, it’s a habitMusic - cassettes, CDs3. Palm Pilot - it’s my lifeline. I think it’s my P.A.’s computer, (6)She rules my diary and I download it4. Mobile phone5. Amex card - they made such a fuss about giving it to me but I spend more time getting it turned down!
I was in the realm of the essence of Tong.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
you don't deserve rock and roll
― cwkiii, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
hey mark
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
livin' too late
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link
https://youtu.be/6m2lfk4Bm34
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
It hasn't hit yet, but it's starting
This is a good listen even if you're quite familiar imo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052r0l5
― mor frog bs (S-), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link
Barbara Manning did a great cover of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv1w-x21pY
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link
An academic kneaded his chinSat in the dust of some cheap magazinesHis academic rust could not burn them up
A small alteration of the past can turn time into spaceSmall changes can alter more than a mere decade
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWVk3h2SA8&feature=share
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:16 (six years ago) link
he looks so wonderful there
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJJmdlZoPw
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
that's my number one LBI
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link
maybe... of course
Oh goes without saying!
I can stumble through yt till the sun comes up. Probably asleep before that. But damn.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:35 (six years ago) link
just listened to Garden, now cranking "Two-Face!"
All the English groupsAct like peasants with free milkOn a routeOn a route to the lootTo candy mountainFive wacky English proletariat idiotsCalifornians always think of sexOr think of deathFive hundred girl deathsA Mexico revenge, it's stolen landThey really get it off on"Don't hurt me please"Rapist fill the TVsAnd the secret of their livesIs S.E.X..
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link
50,000 fall fans cant be wrong.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:44 (six years ago) link
fuck, i'm just seeing this news.
i started reading the fall just the other night; weird timing (not sure if that's what the band are named after anyway). and i've been listening to the big singles compilation a lot lately, listening to a lot of the fall era that i'd always neglected ('86 - '02). so he has been on my mind quite a bit recently. RIP Mark E Smith.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:47 (six years ago) link
<3
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:51 (six years ago) link
Trying not to be too sentimental because MES would have hated that. Thanks for the music, fuckface.
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:55 (six years ago) link
Mark would want us all on the Sting should retire thread instead
― del griffith, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:01 (six years ago) link
My favorite band... somehow the thought of whatever posthumous new Fall product emerges fills me with sadness, because I'll buy it knowing that's it (except for whatever live shows/old tapes Cherry Red or whoever decides to dredge(r) up), where with all the other albums that could be the last one you didn't know.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:02 (six years ago) link
I loved the directness with which he ground a path through the preciousness and anxiety of indie music making in the UK. Like he was the only one who actually knew what he wanted, while everyone else nervously looked at each other for some kind of reaction or validation.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link
excellent point MK.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link
it's true that he made the world a better place when he called Mumford & Sons a "mongoloid Irish folk band."
― del griffith, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link
Karl it's always been my understanding that he did in fact take the band name from the Camus book, but I don't have a primary source for that at hand
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link
we need a thread with just MES stories imo
― mookieproof, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:38 (six years ago) link
It was clear in the window eyeThe brick outlined the blue skyAnd I had to go round the gay graduates in the toiletsAnd Good King Harry was thereFucking Jimmy Savile
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link
"that entire violent album (levitate) is extraordinary."
yeah I really loved that album. it felt like they were on some other plane there, and to an extent I don't feel like they ever really got back there musically. it's an abstract, weird album; missing winner kind of sucked, marshall was pretty good, everything since has been good but definitely the same musical template to a degree. Maybe Levitate was fueled by some other weird drugs. I don't know.
― akm, Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link
Mat Osman @matosmanI have a Mark E Smith story actually. Back in the day Suede got asked to support The Fall on a couple of dates. To a man we were massive fans and VERY excited to be asked. Everyone told us he could be rough on support bands but he was great. Lots of time to soundcheck. (1)He was friendly, helpful, told us to come straight to him with any problem. The shows were great, his crowd were great, The Fall were great. On our way home in the van we were listening to Richard Skinner and he had an interview with Mark. We listened in intently. (2)Especially when Skinner asked, "Do you like any of the new bands who are calling you an influence." Mark said "Like who?" Skinner asked "Well, like Suede." There was a perfectly timed beat. "Never heard of them."
I have a Mark E Smith story actually. Back in the day Suede got asked to support The Fall on a couple of dates. To a man we were massive fans and VERY excited to be asked. Everyone told us he could be rough on support bands but he was great. Lots of time to soundcheck. (1)
He was friendly, helpful, told us to come straight to him with any problem. The shows were great, his crowd were great, The Fall were great. On our way home in the van we were listening to Richard Skinner and he had an interview with Mark. We listened in intently. (2)
Especially when Skinner asked, "Do you like any of the new bands who are calling you an influence." Mark said "Like who?" Skinner asked "Well, like Suede." There was a perfectly timed beat. "Never heard of them."
― Empire Burl Ives (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:55 (six years ago) link
loooool
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link
It was just meThe hoover And the OAP
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:24 (six years ago) link
Btw that living too late verse quoted itt, those words go through my mind all the time
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link
Tony Friel was reading The Fall and took the name from the title. My favourite band; this hasn't sunk in properly yet. Had been expecting/dreading it for years, tbh.
― albvivertine, Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:40 (six years ago) link
The Fall were everything to me
Can't bring myself to listen to any records yet somehow, but following on in the spirit of Mark being funny as fuck, anyone who hasn't already should check out the gigography section of thefall.org. Many many shows include various intros, asides and changed lyrics. And the later ones are just as amazing and strange as the ones from 81 or whenever.
A few choice ones:
"If only you could come from the Nynex gymnasium in your baseball jacket and comprehend. If only." (amended lyrics to "10 Houses of Eve")
"This is the last time you will ever see me reading lyrics again. Don't trust me. I love the carpet of Astoria 2. It's the only carpet that's worse than my house." (amended lyrics to "Spencer Must Die")
"I am Mark E Smith, these are my folk festival boys. Looking out for a grant. One! From the state culture 2000 of Suffolk."
"You walk into glass crystal mazes as the S.S. Viking regiment did. Into black. Into space. Into (...). You walk down into valley of kings. Out of glass. Out of space. In seventies disco lights." (amended lyrics to "Way Round")
"Now, who wrote the GM Vauxhall advert? Was it a, Neville Wilding? Was it 2, Julia Nagle? Or was it c, Richard and Judy? Or was it d? And the answer is e and f put together." (amended lyrics to "Touch Sensitive")
RIP
― Priory, Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
mes was on a coldcut record over acid house, right? the fall also covered a trucking song. he slagged it all but he quietly loved a lot too. music anyway.
― barreras, Thursday, 25 January 2018 05:28 (six years ago) link
Aw, MES. The Coldcut record is below. Friend who posted it said ‘oh look, he invented LCD Soundsystem!’
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOmwVOTfh8g&t=64s
― kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 25 January 2018 06:02 (six years ago) link
Andy Zax @andyzaxI would never ordinarily advocate or endorse such a thing, but I feel as if the best tribute one could pay to Mark E Smith tonight would be to find a band playing in a club somewhere, wander onstage, and turn the guitarist’s amp down.
― new noise, Thursday, 25 January 2018 06:48 (six years ago) link
Priory – that's a superb topic / thought. One of the things that were very important to me were how their live shows were often nothing like the records. I still feel aggrieved when groups make every effort to sound exactly like their record releases. The shifting and improvised lyrics were a hilarious and brilliant aspect of that. He was doing it in Manchester last year – commenting at the audience. Can't remember what it was, but i seem to have given myself a massive hangover by staying up till half three drinking and watching Fall vids.
Now up eating cereal and listening to Last Orders and Stepping Out on Live at the Electric Circus.
'Everyone's in prison or in the army, all sincere, all phoney'
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:34 (six years ago) link
a good thing – i'll still be working out and being delighted and astonished by his lyrics till the day i die.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:46 (six years ago) link
"I think I'll drop outBecome a no manAnd live my rules
But I'm the sort that gets out of the bath with a dirty face."
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:55 (six years ago) link
Ha ha, from the same song ('Various Times')
'A good case for the systemswe likewe get'
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:56 (six years ago) link
(that from 'The Present' - the past is a camp guard in berlin, The future - 'the beer is so weak, since they got rid of time round here' aaaand, 'The Lathe of Heaven', Smith's ref to UKlG, who pre-deceased him by a day)
― Fizzles, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:57 (six years ago) link
Pink press threat!
MAN WITH CHIP: I'm riding third class on a one-class train.I'm set at nought like a wimpey crane.
I'm a pink prole threat.
GENT IN SAFE-HOUSE: Get out the pink press threat fileand Um-brrrptzzap the subject.
MAN WITH CHIP: It's de-louse, recluse time
(now v. bitter) When I get to the safe houseHanging rhymeHang this crummy blitz trad. by its neck
Pink press threatI escaped the pink prole effect GENT IN SAFE-HOUSE: It's a new prole art threat,So it's recluse, safehouse time NARRATOR: Then the clan beganGive them nail files soonThen the clan beganAgenda Item One
Pink press threatGet out the pink press threat fileNew prole art, the subjectIt's safe-house, safe-house time
Everybody hears the hum at 3 a.m.But in the safe-house, it's not around
Pink press threatGet out the wet lib fileNew prole art, the subjectSafe-house, safe-house tone
That clan has got away with 100 years of sheer brilliance until now
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 09:18 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAob4ONlBmo
― Ludo, Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:06 (six years ago) link
now listening to the post-nearly man. hanging out with the grand fella
― #TeamHailing (imago), Thursday, 25 January 2018 10:16 (six years ago) link