the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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They only had Franco and the Inquisition to put up with though.

The conquistadors...?

gyac, Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:43 (six years ago) link

maybe in 80 years, civilisational collapse notwithstanding, some total arsehole will make a movie about how Boris invented bicycles and taught us the value of love and tolerance.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link

would have to find some way of bringing his syphilis-ridden mummy into it as well.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

civilisational collapse notwithstanding

well there's your first stumbling block

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

To be fair to Dunkirk 80% of that movie is soldiers desperatley trying not to drown, elbowing each other to get on ships, ganging up on others suspected of being spies, etc. It only goes full Greatest Generation at the end, everything before it is surprisingly anti-rah rah.

It always makes me laugh that Boris Johnson's two big things are Shakespeare and Churchill, it's like he googled "British culture" and went to work from there.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

Shakespeare was culturally minor for 150/years or so aftet his death iirv

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/donald-trump-says-he-respects-everything-theresa-may-is?utm_term=.eoonGPE6q#.kg9y2VOvP

"We're on the same wavelength in, I think, every respect," he added.

nashwan, Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

Praise from Cesar Romero

the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

the last 5 minutes of Dunkirk seemed studio mandated to me to get that patriotic good awards vibes going for it. the rest of the film is pretty damn harsh about humanity.

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 25 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

When Branagh says in stoic stiff upper lip fashion: I'm staying behind for the French, or something like that. There is a sneaky subterfuge going on, really he has found a time conduit that leads right up Macron's arsehole and he wants it all for himself.

calzino, Thursday, 25 January 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

But even those final five minutes of Dunkirk seems really defeatist. Churchill saying that if England can't win someone beyond the sea will, while the plane is burning in the sand.

Frederik B, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

It also has a direct reference to the Empire (which would go on fighting even if England falls), usually not a part of the speech we get to hear because it somewhat ruins the plucky-britain-stands-alone vibe.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 26 January 2018 09:34 (six years ago) link

Yeah, when I watched it I felt the Brexit-allusion was more like 'holy shit we're fucked, guys, hope the rest of the world will save us...'

Frederik B, Friday, 26 January 2018 10:18 (six years ago) link

lol @ wales

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

According to their graphic, Essex is in The Midlands

imago, Friday, 26 January 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

Need a referendum on whether to have a second referendum, obv

palace of swears reversed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

According to their graphic, Essex is in The Midlands

Unforgivable

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 26 January 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/charities-help-cover-up-real-reason-government-announced-blue-badge-changes/

The changes were welcomed enthusiastically by non-user-led disability charities such as Scope and the National Autistic Society (NAS), with NAS even quoted in DfT’s own press release, and they were widely supported by the mainstream media, including the Guardian, the Mirror and the BBC.

But what they and Norman failed to mention was that the changes had been forced on the government by a legal action taken on behalf of an autistic man with learning difficulties.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

This reminds me of that Professor Mike Oliver comment about how all the big disabled charities being "predictably useless" and "parasitic". They should be hammering this govt every day for the crimes they are committing against the disabled, not blowing smoke up their arse when they are forced to u-turn.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

i'm very suspicious of most of the big charities - none of them user-led, as you say, and most of them still use ridiculously disablist language from time to time, especially when they're on the cadge for money. Nothing About Us Without Us as some of my lairier friends like to say.

hard to be a spod (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:08 (six years ago) link

I went to some NAS event once, and it mainly consisted of promoting sensory equipment that you'd need to be on a £100k salary to afford and had some horrifically smug person talking about the fantastic Free School she had started. I had entered a photo of my son at anti-austerity "Hardest Hit" demo in London to their photography competition, it was an ace pic and got thousands of votes on their website, they displayed a postage stamp copy of it in some dark corner and clearly thought it was "too political" in favour of cliched cutesy autism victim aesthetic type stuff.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:23 (six years ago) link

(xp) otm x1000

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:47 (six years ago) link

The boss of a local Mencap charity has admitted repeatedly sharing racist messages from far-right organisations including the BNP and Britain First on social media.

Patricia Chadwick has been sharing far-right messages on her Facebook page since at least 2015, alongside animal welfare posts and messages of support for the charity she chairs, Bolton Mencap – which supports people with learning difficulties – where she is also programme director.

Come on now folks, lets not be so negative about charities.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link

I often see it mentioned in reports that someone worked for "x" charity, like it confers some moral goodness on them, and they were volunteering their services gratis - rather than pulling a £120k salary.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 11:24 (six years ago) link

Fish in barrel stuff but always fun to read just how spectacularly dense Nadine Dorries continues to be.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/heres-a-leaked-whatsapp-chat-showing-tory-leavers-confusion

nashwan, Saturday, 27 January 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link

it's rude to be smarter than your constituents

hard to be a spod (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 January 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

shut up and take my vote

A Labour government would immediately buy thousands of properties for homeless people in a move to tackle soaring levels of rough sleeping, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

The party would also give local authorities the power to seize properties that had been deliberately left vacant, he told BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday.

Levels of homelessness in the UK were “disgraceful” and “wholly unnecessary”, said Corbyn. A Labour government would “immediately purchase 8,000 properties across the country to give immediate housing to those people who are currently homeless”, he said.

Councils would be required to build “far more” homes, said Corbyn, who criticised the construction of luxury tower blocks that were then sold off to foreign investors. “We would give local authorities the power to take over deliberately kept vacant properties,” he told Andrew Marr.

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 28 January 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

:)

imago, Sunday, 28 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

Graun are quoting a report in The S*n saying up to 40 MP's have written to the 1922 committee blah blah. I don't want see "no-confidence vote" in any headlines until it has actually happened, please.

calzino, Sunday, 28 January 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

Toynbee says "Mount Tory ready to blow". That's it settled then, May will be still here in 2022.

calzino, Sunday, 28 January 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

Stephen Kinnock was just invoking that "More in Common" drivel on R4. It's both completely inane platitudinous froth in context of the current state of abysmal inequality and poverty in UK, also completely at odds with his ugly legitimate concerns speak. I wonder his why his wing of the party got wiped out. Does it ever occur to him that he always looks like a complete risible twat, even before that election doc. probably not.

calzino, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

venn diagram of people who enjoyed Darkest Hour and people who want Jacob Rees-Mogg to become prime minister

Saw Darkest Hour today, @Jacob_Rees_Mogg is the only politician who could fill Churchill’s shoes when that Hour comes again, and it will

— Ellie Red Hat (@achievechange) January 16, 2018

Get rid of Theresa The Appeaser @theresa_may and give the job to @Jacob_Rees_Mogg . This country is crying out for a leader, the audiences at
"The Darkest Hour" stand and give ovations, they have seen leadership and know what it is. May is not it. https://t.co/ZM75P0Dp0q

— Urban Clermont (@urban_clermont) January 21, 2018

Just watched Churchill the darkest hour.
Great film.@theresa_may reminds me of appeaser Neville Chamberlain and her cabinet remind me of the other appeasers.
Churchill reminds me of @Jacob_Rees_Mogg .
We must get rid of betrayer May and put in someone who fights for Britain. https://t.co/kwSwD0Hkl4

— 21st Century Boy.🎸 (@krokarr) December 17, 2017

Just seen Darkest Hour. I was so proud & the public Never gave in. We need a Churchill now. We have Theresa the Appeaser. Come on @Jacob_Rees_Mogg We need you as PM. We are a Great Nation & we won’t be blackmailed by Tyranical EU. #brexit #conservatives #ukip pic.twitter.com/Uwwf5mqfvI

— charlotte (@tinkerpuss) January 27, 2018

soref, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

I think I heard at least one of them on 5live.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

him as PM would be amazing. imagine the annihilation at the polls.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

Next Conservative Leader Betting Odds is fucking arse-stsonishing, it's like seeing Quixall Crossett installed as odds on fav for the 2018 Grand National and Rick Witter getting installed as the leading fav for the Man Brooker prize in one.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link

Gaz Coombes, surely

hard to be a spod (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 January 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link

Have these Tories completely lost their marbles or what?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 29 January 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link

If you think about it, the UK engaging in bureaucratic negotiations to leave a trade confederation is a lot like WWII.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 January 2018 10:55 (six years ago) link

this is good on bonkers Tories: https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/will-conservative-party-ever-recover.html

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Monday, 29 January 2018 10:58 (six years ago) link

good news for nv is there's a new gaz coombes record due out in the spring

‘World’s Strongest Man’ is said to be inspired “variously by Grayson Perry’s the Descent of Man, Frank Ocean’s ‘Blonde’, Californian weed, Reg Varney, British woodlands, unchecked masculinity, Neu! and hip hop”.

http://www.nme.com/news/music/gaz-coombes-new-album-worlds-strongest-man-new-single-live-show-london-2216919

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link

godspeed Gaz Coombes finishes his magnum opus before I die!

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:02 (six years ago) link

"Mount Tory ready to blow"

this is a deeply unpleasant collection of words btw

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:03 (six years ago) link

Polly didn't think how bad it would sound with a comma. Give her a break tho, they do say the first 40 years is often a learning curve in her job.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

The Plymouth Moor View MP was also scathing about May’s failure to get people on board with her vision. “You have to deliver. You can’t just always talk about the speech outside No 10 Downing Street – which was very very good.

“You have to bridge the gap between that and how it feels if you are suffering from mental health problems in a place like Plymouth,” he said.

:D

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

Quixall Crossett

before my google search i was expecting this to be the latest tory mp to have marked their entry into the tory leadership race with a stirring plea for the return of workhouses

Sometimes you'd hear the SIS announcer confirming Quixall Crossett finally completed the race, minutes after the winner and sp's had been called. So very much a cult racehorse, that quite sensibly couldn't ever be arsed trying finish in front.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

I think the Quixall in this case was an olden days Man City legend.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

but it does sound like some senile Tory name of someone who thinks the poor should be eating their bairns!

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

Q: David Davis told the House of Lords earlier this afternoon that he sees the end of the year as the deadline for the Brexit talks, not October. Do you accept that?

Three months before we're supposed to be leaving? what are they doing? Anyway Barnier says No, he doesn't.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link


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