2017-18 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD PART 1 ALL OF AMERICAS FAVORITE TEAMS ARE BACK

chill vibes, no messy drama, doin it for the Alamo

a real system, respect

lmao

Kyrie Irving threatened to have knee surgery and sit out if the Cavs didn't trade him. Wow. pic.twitter.com/dYIfyKkf5P

— Cleveland Sports Talk (@CLEsportsTalk) January 25, 2018

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2018/01/cavaliers_felt_compelled_to_tr.html

the only possible way for them to beat this iteration of the warriors was to pull off something crazy like getting paul george, and if that set in motion them getting a top 10 pick for kyrie in a year when they were prob gonna get wiped out by the warriors regardless then it's prob not the worst outcome despite all this day-to-day drama

they cldve got paul george! but they didnt cause they were worried abt bron leaving cause they pissed him off by letting his fave gm walk

my understanding is that they wanted to trade kyrie to the suns for the 4 and bledsoe and then trade the 4 for PG but the first trade didn't happen so the second fell apart?

iirc there was another one of love for pg that they pulled out of over protection on a pick

lebron can only blame himself no?

not retaining griffin was a huge mistake imo

griffin was prob a good GM but might also not be that great. he did trade two first round picks for timofey mozgov which got swept under the rug of history bcuz lebron supernova'd steph into a brain freeze two finals ago

i'm not sure what GM exactly could solve the conundrum of bending to lebron's whims

the conundrum of being incentivized to mortgage your longterm future for veterans up until the exact point where lebron feels like the team is carrying dead weight in the form of old carcasses and now might actually want to go play for a different team with younger players

the heat front office is one of the most respected in the NBA and got made to look like bitter dumb fools for trying to figure this out, got pantsed publicly by bron essentially for releasing mike miller and having no draft picks, and then turned once again proved its acumen by building a playoff team essentially from scratch once the aftershocks of having to revolve your entire franchise around lebron went away

yeah but imo its still worth the risk to keep bron, it wldve set cleve back a few years if they ended up needing to rebuild which is not really that big a downside

yeah i agree you kind of have to swallow it. i just mean that i don't think navigating these waters is a huge referendum on the cavs' new GM either way. it's a unique and un-winnable situation.

yeah he was already in a tough spot

tho i do understand why the cavs having been like one of the worst teams in the NBA perpetually w/o lebron would be acutely concerned about their life after him compared to i.e. the heat who will prob kinda do ok regardless

idk "torpedo your franchise for 4 straight Finals appearances and 2 rings" seems like a good deal to me. I'd do it in a heartbeat

hell I'd do it for one ring tbh

SO IT'S ALL WORTH IT

yeah def. whatever happens man that one ring is for real worth it.

also the drama is ~~~~entertaining~~~~~

*weeps silently*

I hope next year's team is better than this one was

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2011.html

truly one of the worst rosters of all time.

you guys weren’t kidding. that pod really laid out how dire things are in cleveland.

i'm not sure what GM exactly could solve the conundrum of bending to lebron's whims

― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 25, 2018 4:12 PM (two hours ago)

windhorst made the point on lowe's pod that if you're the cavs, your #1 priority should probably just be to make lebron happy and make sure he stays, since he's a generational talent that you will never replace. if that means gutting the future, so be it. so in that sense it doesn't really matter if griffin is a good GM or not

btw windhorst is such a humorless, arrogant asshole, I find his whole vibe interesting. he and lowe have negative chemistry

Lol otm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUbPDDvV4AASjrq.jpg

lebron took kyrie. durant and westy on the same team

what if lebron goes to new orleans

god this is so much better than east vs west

Bron and Kyrie together and it feels so good

I have to know if love went last or if bron picked him

This is gonna be fun

that was nice of bron to take kyrie, now someone leak the selection order plz

oh it will happen

I hope next year's team is better than this one was

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2011.html

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:32 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

truly one of the worst rosters of all time.

― Spottie, Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:34 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol remember ppl were saying they were gonna make the playoffs

btw windhorst is such a humorless, arrogant asshole, I find his whole vibe interesting. he and lowe have negative chemistry

― k3vin k., Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:04 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they both have very weird non-lol senses of humor and do better when bouncing off someone more charismatic.

xpost that team finished 18 games behind the 8th seed Indiana (37-45)

i never pod but i must admit i was so hungry for cavs drama that i listened to that one and lowe was way better than i thought hed be, comes across way less fussy than in his writing

He’s really improved! I think working w Rachel Nichols has helped loosen him up a bit

windhorst being so fucking srs abt cavs drama is kinda perfect he was crestfallen to see bron halfass it through a mid season game lol

ay so i ate dinner with my best friend davis bertans again. i mean, he was at the next table over, but we ate food at the same time, so he's gonna come over and we're going to watch my son flip between songs on the white album

btw it is 2018 and one of the spurs is a vegan who lives in my neighborhood and donald trump is president lmbo

grats man glad you found a good friend for life

thanks! :)

what was he eating

i was too bashful to look at his plate i was too busy shoveling pad thai in my mouth and talking o my family that i didnt notice