Very OT aside to Tom D: I think its likely the "INRI” on the crucifix wasn't mockery, but an accurate description of the historical Yeshua's crime. The canonical gospels date from after the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 AD, and devastation of the early Jesus movement that had been led by James, brother to Jesus. Arguably, the historical Yeshua would have only recognized its remnants in the the Ebionite/Nazarene heresy of the Trans-jordan and Hijaz. The movement that ascended to orthodoxy took its theology from Paul, and Bob Eisenman argues that Paul was a member of the Herodian family (Romans 16:11, parallels with a Saulus who was "kinsman of Agrippa" in Josephus), with its pro-Roman sentiments. One can argue that much of the pro-Roman sentiment in the gospels (presenting Pilate as respectful of local sentiment, blaming the crucifiction on Jews, etc) stems from the influence of Paul, and gentile "God-fearers" that attended synagogues throughout the Empire.
Very OT aside to Tracer Hand: Absolutely. Carthaginians [were monsters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Carthage#Child_sacrifice).
― Sanpaku, Friday, 26 January 2018 01:38 (six years ago) link
"it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go to heaven" = a nice sentiment but sorry it's outweighed by all the other places jesus condemns abortion and gay marriage
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 26 January 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
Wondering if one of the President's sentries being outed for having a spine, and facing him down, will have a better chance of permeating the FOX forcefield than anything that's come our of the investigation so far, including Flynn/Manafort indictments etc.
Like, is stuff beginning to move now?
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 26 January 2018 01:57 (six years ago) link
our = out
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 26 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
Fox News not picking up this story surprisingly
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link
It’s over.I’m calling it. I have refused to make predictions all this time about what was going to happen. There will be a recommendation in Mueller’s report that Congress consider impeachment proceedings. It’s going to happen. https://t.co/8US0FkCeTq— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) January 26, 2018
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link
So we've got his lawyer threatening to quit, Wray threatening to quit ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 02:07 (six years ago) link
The Dems should just threaten to quit, and they can get what they want out of him.
I don’t know, I’ve never gotten past the fact that Trump admitted to firing Comey because he was investigating his campaign yet afterwards evidence of obstruction was still being seeked out for some reason. My understanding is thr defense of how that wasn’t obstruction amounted to “he’s allowed to commit obstruction” so I’ve basically had no hope.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 26 January 2018 02:14 (six years ago) link
It's a legal process. You don't just cry "obstruction!" and then lock him up. They have to gather evidence, make a case for his mindset and intent, and then there is a trial. The same goes for any (esp. white collar) crime. Like, Flynn, Manafort? That stuff will be going on for months.
Pointed out elsewhere, but man, Trump tried to fire him in *June.* That's just a month after Mueller was brought on board but *before* news came out of Don Jr.'s meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Why did Trump want to fire him so soon, so quickly?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 02:23 (six years ago) link
Because he was innocent. Duh.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:28 (six years ago) link
Does this leak effectively mean there's no way he could do it now?
This feels huge
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:31 (six years ago) link
Huge, because Mueller is totally going to exonerate him. That's why Trump didn't fire him, duh.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 02:31 (six years ago) link
because golf fees
― barreras, Friday, 26 January 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
Resign. You can blame us broh.
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:35 (six years ago) link
If I understand correctly, that lawyer-threatening-to-quit showdown was in June, right? An eternity ago in Trump time. Before Kelly was brought in as the "grownup."
― Tippi Sanhedrin (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link
Yea but it was "their lil secret" til now
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/sd6qt77rdC— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 26, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link
Reported FBI/Special Counsel activity to date
01/2018 Jeff Sessions -Private interview01/2018 George Nader -Private interview [2]01/2018 George Nader -Private interview [1]01/2018 Steve Bannon -Subpoena12/2017 Robert Arakelian -Private interview12/2017 Don McGahn -Private interview12/2017 Hope Hicks -Private interview (2)12/2017 Hope Hicks -Private interview (1)12/2017 J.D. Gordon -Private interview12/2017 Michael Flynn -Guilty plea11/2017 Michael Flynn -Criminal charge11/2017 KT McFarland -Private interview11/2017 Jared Kushner -Private meeting11/2017 DOJ -Request for documents11/2017 Stephen Miller -Private interview10/2017 Rick Gates -Arrest10/2017 Paul Manafort -Arrest10/2017 Rick Gates -Indictment10/2017 Paul Manafort -Indictment10/2017 Sam Clovis -Private interview10/2017 Sam Clovis -Grand jury testimony10/2017 Matt Tait -Private interview*10/2017 Sean Spicer -Private interview10/2017 Trump campaign -Subpoena10/2017 Reince Priebus -Private interview10/2017 George Papadopoulos -Guilty plea10/2017 Simona Mangiante -Private interview**10/2017 Simona Mangiante -Subpoena (withdrawn)09/2017 Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg -FBI questioning09/2017 Facebook -Search warrant09/2017 Jason Maloni -Grand jury interview09/2017 Michael Flynn -FBI questioningFall/2017 Ann Donaldson -Private interview***Fall 2017 Jared Kushner -Request for documentsFall 2017 Cambridge Analytica -Request for documents08/2017 Paul Manafort's PR executives -Grand jury subpoenas08/2017 General Services Administration -Request for documents08/2017 Melissa Laurenza -Grand jury subpoena08/2017 Jason Maloni -Grand jury subpoena08/2017 General Services Administration -Request for documents08/2017 Rinat Akhmetshin -Grand jury interview08/2017 Rick Gates Bank records -Grand jury subpoenas08/2017 Paul Manafort bank records -Grand jury subpoenas07/2017 People involved in Trump Tower meeting -Grand jury subpoenas07/2017 George Papadopoulos -Arrest07/2017 Paul Manafort’s home -Search warrant07/2017 Sally Yates -Private interview07/2017 Ekim Alptekin -Grand jury subpoena06/2017 Mike Rogers -Private interview06/2017 Dan Coats -Private interview06/2017 Sphere Consulting -Subpoena06/2017 Rod Rosenstein -Private interviewSummer 2017 Nancye Miller Woolsey -FBI questioning****Summer 2017 James Woolsey -FBI questioningSummer 2017 Christopher Steele -Private meetingSummer 2017 Trump Organization -Request for documents05/2017 Ekim Alptekin -Private interview05/2017 Mike Pompeo -Private interview05/2017 James Comey -Private interview04/2017 M. Flynn business associates -Grand jury subpoenas03/2017 Carter Page -FBI questioning02/2017 George Papadopoulos -FBI questioning01/2017 George Papadopoulos -FBI questioning01/2017 Michael Flynn -FBI questioning01/2017 Paul Manafort storage unit -Search under FISA12/2016 Regarding Paul Manafort -Grand jury subpoenas09/2016 Christopher Steele -Private meeting09/2016 Paul Manafort -FISA warrantSummer 2016 Carter Page -FISA warrant
* Cybersecurity expert** Fiancee of George Papadopoulos*** White House Counsel Chief of Staff**** Wife of James Woolsey
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 26 January 2018 03:21 (six years ago) link
MORE theology!
All the clowns commenting on my tweet below with their bowels in an uproar can relax b/c the other side of the coin is Jesus never told Caesar he shouldn’t tax the rich to help the poor either. You can be a good Christian whether you vote conservative or liberal! https://t.co/T3skE1Ewwo— Jerry Falwell (@JerryFalwellJr) January 26, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link
Very Church of Trump. Lots of clowns in the parish.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link
where did the giant list come from?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
xpost, “You have heard that people were told in the past, ‘Do not commit murder; anyone who does will be brought to trial.’ But now I tell you: if you are angry with your brother you will be brought to trial, if you call your brother ‘You good-for-nothing!’ you will be brought before the Council, and if you call your brother a clown you will be in danger of going to the fire of hell."
― Wes Brodicus, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:52 (six years ago) link
"As for the rest: antacids."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/russia-investigations/
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 26 January 2018 03:57 (six years ago) link
This Hannity moment from tonight is so perfect and funny
Sean Hannity: The New York Times is trying to distract you. They say Trump tried to fire Mueller, but our sources aren’t confirming that!Sean Hannity, minutes later: Alright, yeah, maybe our sources confirm Trump wanted to fire Mueller. But so what? That’s his right. Anywho... pic.twitter.com/yUIt7Un56d— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) January 26, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 26 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link
haha
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 05:33 (six years ago) link
i was wondering how they'd deal with that tonight. i love that he seamlessly changes subject to a high speed car crash video
― Karl Malone, Friday, 26 January 2018 06:18 (six years ago) link
― maura, Friday, 26 January 2018 06:55 (six years ago) link
it’s 2018 and people with the last name falwell haven’t been laughed out of polite society
― maura, Friday, 26 January 2018 06:56 (six years ago) link
polite society can kiss my ass
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 January 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link
can't wait for the GOP to eviscerate Trump over this.
"if true, this is deeply troubling"
"it's important to remember he DIDN'T fire Mueller!"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
Is he doing with Mueller what he does with the New York Times- trash talk them so the whole heap of #lolresistance rubes rally round him, when in fact he's firmly in the tank for Trump
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 26 January 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link
lol what I mean yes, you can tell by the way Mueller sends his investigators repeatedly into white rural and suburban communities in flyover country to try, try, try to understand
― El Tomboto, Friday, 26 January 2018 11:36 (six years ago) link
they’re all magic men
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 26 January 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link
some interesting things about the timeline Hadrian posted - accelerating activity throughout (or appearance thereof)- Matt Tait: https://www.lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians
― El Tomboto, Friday, 26 January 2018 11:54 (six years ago) link
Mourning!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link
where's the tax returns?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link
can't some publication just loudly make a bunch of unfounded accusations about his tax status that only a libel suit would resolve? take a hit for the team, politico
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link
"Trump has investments in werewolves and edible abortions - click here for more details"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link
reggie and I should plant ourselves at Trump's Palm Beach estate and yell our two lines all day.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link
i'll get my picket sign together, alfred
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link
dress in shark costumes
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link
We'd sound like the gulls in FINDING NEMO.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
BBC headline is that "trump ready to apologise for far right posts'. Why wouldn't you just apologise rather than signal readiness to apologise? It seems false. Plus we don't want him either way.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
I'm preparing myself to not accept his apology.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link
"Sorry if some of you were offended..."
― nashwan, Friday, 26 January 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link
So basically:WH is demanding about 80% of its initial asks on legal imm, 100% of its initial asks on border/asylum, and 20% (subject to change) of its initial asks on interior enforcement.https://t.co/urh8QbFRRf— Dara Lind (@DLind) January 25, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link
Missed that Meehan is not seeking re-election. That's something like, what, 32? 33 GOP Congressmen not seeking re-election? That's a record, I think.
Had a beer with a friend and his friend last night. HIs friend is in I think some kind of international banking/finance and said that from their perspective, they're predicting and planning for a full-on trade-war with China, which they're expecting Trump to push in his state of the union.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link
why stop at just trade war
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 January 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link