Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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whenever a podcast comes to town I always notice they've crazy overpriced

Simon H., Friday, 26 January 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link

ps matt you didn't need to spend a full hour to get to your "can of pringles" metaphor lol

Simon H., Friday, 26 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

Loved that one. Came pretty close to laying out the historical foundation of Christmanist pessimism.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

So how did Adam Friedland end up on Israeli TV anyway? He came across fairly well also somehow

global tetrahedron, Friday, 26 January 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

where's the tour dates at?

adam friedland on israeli tv was hilarious. "comedian and activist". i think he went to one DSA meeting or something haha.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 January 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

I haven’t found a collected listing yet. Some events are on Ticketmaster, some on Ticketfly

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 26 January 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

oh i just had a little google - also can't find collected dates - but found what i need to know: that they're doing seattle on march 30th. might catch the show, I'm overdue a seattle visit in any case

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

the irony of conservative owned crocodile in seattle presenting the chapo show in town

barreras, Friday, 26 January 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

Their tour will probably be run about as well as their merch efforts, and similarly overcharged.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

buying merch of a podcast just doesn't compute for me

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

chapo brand maximization is sort of offputting.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

like I can't fault them for the fact that people keep throwing money at them for the podcast itself, but the book, shirts etc just feel crass

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

podcast merch is cool if you wanna look like the biggest fuckin loser

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

enh, I'd cash in too, it's not like any aspect of their enterprise is built to last

Simon H., Friday, 26 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

I agree that podcast merch is dumb though

Simon H., Friday, 26 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

yeah, I guess I can see wanting to build a nest-egg off it, none of them are probably destined to springboard to greater stardom, will probably just fizzle out in a few years and then maybe they do some journalism/writing.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

hey now i like my uhh yeah dude t

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 26 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

im on a podcast network with a show called Death Metal Dads and they sell sweatpants

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

I have many issues with chapo but them selling t’s isn’t one of them. did they make a fugazi style anti merch pronouncement?

barreras, Friday, 26 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

enh most of the people making a thing about it are the "oh so you're a socialist? seems like you USE CASH DOLLARS a lot" crowd, I assume

Simon H., Friday, 26 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

The careerist/cash-in moves are amusing, not for any political reason but just because they were all about making fun of the way other podcasts have run (stamps.com ads, etc.).

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

Not the Chapos so much as other left twitter/Jacobin writer types but there are reminders that left-wing media people are still fundamentally media people with the need for attention/audience and career goals that entails.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

This show would be a rare case where a book is entirely consistent both with the subject matter and backgrounds of the hosts.

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 26 January 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

Street Fight Radio sells a (hardcopy) zine

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Friday, 26 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link

Podcast merch is an industry now:

https://www.podswag.com

President Keyes, Saturday, 27 January 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

The Podcaster’s Progress pic.twitter.com/UQ8nd0Rnuo

— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) January 28, 2018

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

The Great Gaming Debate is finally online:

http://podcast.no-cartridge.net/?name=2018-01-29_nocartridge0064.mp3

(It’s almost 2.5 hrs long)

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

ah my two least favourite chapo hosts debate the merit of gaming for 2 and a half hours.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

you can't hate christman and claim to like chapo imo

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link

i'd accept any of the others (although it's actually hard to imagine finding will objectionable)

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

Will’s borderline mid-Atlantic/Manhattanite accent (“rather”) can be seen as quite objectionable

Crazy Display Name Haver (kingfish), Monday, 29 January 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

bring Brendan back imo

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

you can't hate christman and claim to like chapo imo

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, January 29, 2018 3:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's good at times but shouting about the superstructure and hell world can get old pretty quickly

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

he's better when less angry i feel like

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

Him screaming so loud about Megan McArdle that his neighbor or whoever knocked on his door is classic

somebody toucha my fgti (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

haha

khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

I think they called security

President Keyes, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

yeah i bet his midwest neighbours were thrilled when he moved to nyc

gaming debate ended up being pretty good imo

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

I tapped out halfway through, it was v repetitive though I agree with matt's core argument

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

yeah matt screaming and then you hear the knock on the door and he's just like "oh. oh my god. i'm so sorry. it's just- no, i'm so sorry"

nice to see the gaming debate is up, was wondering about that, gonna listen and see how far i make it thru, i'm firmly in the playing video games past age 13 = DUD, so hopefully matt screams about that

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

i'm firmly in the playing video games past age 13 = DUD


says ilx poster *does double-take, rubs eyes* ‘flappy bird’

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

I tapped out halfway through, it was v repetitive though I agree with matt's core argument


i think he makes a good case but i wish he had a better command of videogaming beyond the triple-a titles cuz i think indie gaming does muddy the waters a bit and i’d like to get his take on it

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

xp i never played flappy bird because i wasn't able to. the creator of flappy bird pulled it from distribution because he felt "immense shame" about people becoming addicted to it and their productivity going down.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link

Flappy Bird was removed from both the App Store and Google Play by its creator on February 10, 2014, due to guilt over what he considered to be its addictive nature and overuse. The game's popularity and sudden removal caused phones with it pre-installed to be put up for sale for high prices over the Internet. Games similar to Flappy Bird became popular on the iTunes App Store in the wake of its removal, and both Apple and Google have removed games from their app stores for being too similar to the original. The game has also been distributed through unofficial channels on multiple platforms.

On February 8, 2014, Nguyen announced on Twitter that the game was to be removed from both Apple's App Store and Google Play, writing: "I am sorry 'Flappy Bird' users, 22 hours from now, I will take 'Flappy Bird' down. I cannot take this anymore." He went on to say that taking down the game has "nothing to do with legal issues". The game was removed from both Apple's App Store and Google Play exactly on time, much to the dismay of many fans.

Following the removal, many media outlets reported that several merchants on eBay were offering phones which had the app pre-installed for US$1,499 or more, with some receiving bids of over $90,000; however, the listings were removed for violating eBay's rule stating that smartphones must be restored to factory settings before being sold.

In an interview with Forbes, Nguyen cited the game's addictive nature for its cancellation, stating: "Flappy Bird was designed to play in a few minutes when you are relaxed. But it happened to become an addictive product. I think it has become a problem. To solve that problem, it's best to take down Flappy Bird. It's gone forever." Nguyen said that the guilt that he felt over the game was affecting his sleep, and that his conscience was relieved after he took down the game.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

I guess this is the de facto Manning thread so

its been over a week since ive let everyone who helped me out of prison down, so many of you have helped me thru tough times, i tried too hard to do too much, im sorry im a human being and not a symbol, i have hit rock bottom

— Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea) January 30, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

yeah i missed that whole controversy, what's going on? she was photographed laughing with McInnes and other alt-right dudes? was that it? if that's the case so what? I have the opportunity to vote for Chelsea & i should probably do my own research but here i am

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

there was an initial thing of her showing up to Cernovich's "to-do" (to "gather intel" according to her), which led to someone finding a pic of her from earlier coming out of an escape room with some alt-right people, which was obviously nagl

Simon H., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

ok but what is the conclusion? that she's alt-right? the reaction seems so insane and over the top, I really don't understand what the issue is beyond a bad photo-op, but aren't people smart enough to realize bad photo-ops - "nagl"'s - have historically been used to smear people?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

is flappy bird like angry birds or

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link


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