US Politics January 2018: "You All Just Got A Lot Richer"

but now they’re setting records. They’re at a record level. what a disgusting liar

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/sea-ice-extent-sinks-to-record-lows-at-both-poles

Seriously, he’s probably looking at the sea ice extent from this winter (when most of it re-solidifies) and comparing it to the summer, when it melts. He’s really that dumb. You have to think of the dumbest possible thing.

This is the dumbest apocalypse ever.

That’s not a giant meteor hurling toward earth, with an eta of 2 hours and 99.9999% chance of collision according to nasa! That is tv. It is a big tv screen showing a new movie that we haven’t seen. The Chinese have installed a big tv screen in the sky to scare us. I hope that I am on that tv screen

it's basically Mars Attacks! but the aliens are from here

I’m sure Piers Morgan quickly corrected him on this. He gets asked to be on television all the time so he must really deserve it

"people keep falsely saying New York is besieged by monsters. why just yesterday I saw fresh delicious Hi-C pouring through the streets. I am sure liberals will insist it's blood"

If #2020election were today, 52% of #Trump voters would “definitely” re-elect him (was 49% last April) @FoxNews #Poll https://t.co/YHLWBp4GFX pic.twitter.com/UtSal0fpp3

— Fox News Poll (@foxnewspoll) January 28, 2018

that seems extremely low

sure but remember that trump voters have a record of lying to polls

yeah i'd like to see how obama voters answered that in 2010

probably with non-sequiturs

'we'll see what happens, we'll see what happens'

a long read on manafort: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/

Somebody please inform Jay-Z that because of my policies, Black Unemployment has just been reported to be at the LOWEST RATE EVER RECORDED!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 28, 2018

If only there were a platform to semd a targeted message to one particular person while everyone else could also see it

I wasn't going to watch the SOTU, but everyone seems to think he's finally getting ready to become presidential.

SOTU? More like STFU.

I read that Fox poll as 'more people who voted trump would not now, as opposed to April".

New go-to Trump pic:

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/266926e/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fdd%2F7e%2F22b7778141508db111d8712ebf53%2F180126-trump-pliers-ap-1160.jpg

i think it's a shame that they stop doing voter polls on how people will vote on an election after the election ends. seriously, somebody poll people and ask them how they voted in 2016. i'd love to know what the results are.

Trump in a landslide.

Stupid:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/schumers-to-do-list-fix-daca-win-the-senate-manage-trump/2018/01/28/2d0ba4ea-02a6-11e8-9d31-d72cf78dbeee_story.html?__twitter_impression=true

So Kurtz wasn't being a sock. He was quoting and apparently has not heard of retweeting or quotation marks.

Paywalled, what's the gist of the WaPo piece?

Skimmed, but ... DACA fails, Republicans get blamed, giving cover to red state Dems to toe away from immigration, helping them get reelected while Chuck works on snagging 2 seats and defending 10 others?

infinity chess!

Pretty much, yeah. Also, moderate Dems successfully pressured to end the shutdown, which means there was no strategy at all going into it.

Oh, and Schumer thinks 'economic populism' means saying 'no WE'RE the ones working for the middle class'

One suspicion is that ending the shutdown was what Manchin demanded to run again. He was ready to retire.

Are the Democrats making themselves a remotely attractive Opposition at the moment.
I keep hearing things taht sound like mishandling and wondering if that is going to counter a swing back to sanity come the mid terms.

good mourning!

where's the tax returns?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article125859554.html

Reading a different reported story, it sounds like the Dems (and some GOP) want DACA separate so that it can get passed away from all the poison pill limits to legal migration, and in return they'd tack some border/wall money into the budget. That keeps Trump from scuttling discussions with hardline immigration demands, punting it to a future debate, which gives cover to Dems running in more conservative districts. That doesn't seem like a terrible strategy. The longer they delay the elective stuff, the closer we get to elections, when in theory the entire balance may change.

Regardless, Trump will fuck it up, whether or not he finally becomes presidential tomorrow. Because he will always be a piece of shit.

It's not a horrible strategy, but I can't see it working without the threat of another shutdown.

I for one am ready for a rush of idiot journalists to tell us how "encouraged" we should be by a teleprompter SOTU that only includes a few references to genocide

good piece from Jeet on how the global elite are perfectly fine (or better) with Trump

https://newrepublic.com/article/146797/davos-trump-became-leader-global-1-can-learn-love

“A year later, many of the business and political elites remain dismissive of him, privately rolling eyes and using words like ‘madman,’ but there was excitement about economic growth, and the tax cuts and regulatory rollback he has ushered in,” the Times added.

cor it's almost like business and political elites are amoral monsters bent on profit at the detriment of literally everything else

it's almost like trump is part and parcel w/ a monstrous set of phenomena more than he is a gross outlier!

Yeah, business-centric articles about Davos have been pretty pro-Trump. Again, the feeling being that the bar is so very, very low that they're relieved that he didn't once smear his own feces on anything or anyone.

The bar is low for anyone with the keys to capital.

Like, you shouldn't be impressed that the dipshit who carelessly threatened to start a nuclear war didn't actually start a nuclear war (yet). It's like I threatened to murder your whole family but you can't help but admire the restraint I showed in only stealing your identity and bankrupting you.

The bar is low for anyone with the keys to capital.

otm, and trump's few accomplishments so far have all worked to put more capital in the hands of those who already have too much of it

Which really adds a tragicomic air to the efforts by that one Davos protestor.

When I see 'Davos' I often briefly confuse it with 'Davros' and 'DeVos' but it's all the same thing in the end, really.

And of course this is already a thing. Of course it is.

https://i.redd.it/e4aosqy18ofy.jpg

can we not bring "bars" into the conversation plz

Reading a different reported story, it sounds like the Dems (and some GOP) want DACA separate so that it can get passed away from all the poison pill limits to legal migration, and in return they'd tack some border/wall money into the budget. That keeps Trump from scuttling discussions with hardline immigration demands, punting it to a future debate, which gives cover to Dems running in more conservative districts. That doesn't seem like a terrible strategy. The longer they delay the elective stuff, the closer we get to elections, when in theory the entire balance may change.

Regardless, Trump will fuck it up, whether or not he finally becomes presidential tomorrow. Because he will always be a piece of shit.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, January 29, 2018 8:42 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It sounds like this strategy still relies on the GOP keeping its word (which at this point is foolish to expect) or yeah, another shutdown. If the Dems help the Republicans pass a budget first with the understanding that they'd pass DACA afterwards, I'm sorry, but that check's probably not getting cashed. If the Dems demand gets done BEFORE the budget then that just sets us up for another shutdown, right? Ideally, the Dems could say "You guys want wall money then let's put that in a separate bill with DACA after the budget's done and we'll pass it" but I assume the border funding has to be in the appropriations bill.

“There is a cooling, and there’s a heating" is a very Jerry Lewis-like sentence structure.

first the chill --
then the stupor
then the letting go

brb gonna start a crematorium and promote it with the slogan 'there is a cooling, and there’s a heating'