the day after the deadline: can the union survive brexit and other deep questions

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Have these Tories completely lost their marbles or what?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 29 January 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link

If you think about it, the UK engaging in bureaucratic negotiations to leave a trade confederation is a lot like WWII.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 January 2018 10:55 (six years ago) link

this is good on bonkers Tories: https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/will-conservative-party-ever-recover.html

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Monday, 29 January 2018 10:58 (six years ago) link

good news for nv is there's a new gaz coombes record due out in the spring

‘World’s Strongest Man’ is said to be inspired “variously by Grayson Perry’s the Descent of Man, Frank Ocean’s ‘Blonde’, Californian weed, Reg Varney, British woodlands, unchecked masculinity, Neu! and hip hop”.

http://www.nme.com/news/music/gaz-coombes-new-album-worlds-strongest-man-new-single-live-show-london-2216919

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link

godspeed Gaz Coombes finishes his magnum opus before I die!

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:02 (six years ago) link

"Mount Tory ready to blow"

this is a deeply unpleasant collection of words btw

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:03 (six years ago) link

Polly didn't think how bad it would sound with a comma. Give her a break tho, they do say the first 40 years is often a learning curve in her job.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

The Plymouth Moor View MP was also scathing about May’s failure to get people on board with her vision. “You have to deliver. You can’t just always talk about the speech outside No 10 Downing Street – which was very very good.

“You have to bridge the gap between that and how it feels if you are suffering from mental health problems in a place like Plymouth,” he said.

:D

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

Quixall Crossett

before my google search i was expecting this to be the latest tory mp to have marked their entry into the tory leadership race with a stirring plea for the return of workhouses

Sometimes you'd hear the SIS announcer confirming Quixall Crossett finally completed the race, minutes after the winner and sp's had been called. So very much a cult racehorse, that quite sensibly couldn't ever be arsed trying finish in front.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

I think the Quixall in this case was an olden days Man City legend.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

but it does sound like some senile Tory name of someone who thinks the poor should be eating their bairns!

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

Q: David Davis told the House of Lords earlier this afternoon that he sees the end of the year as the deadline for the Brexit talks, not October. Do you accept that?

Three months before we're supposed to be leaving? what are they doing? Anyway Barnier says No, he doesn't.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

i mean it’s kind of impressive in a way that a bunch of chancers so manifestly unsuited to effectively negotiate brexit still manage to surprise us with their levels of incompetence

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUsnU5wX4AExWcR.jpg:large
that *amusing* Merkel anecdote about May going into a transmitting and not receiving feed-back loop that was doing the rounds earlier won't shock anybody.

calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

Asked why the prime minister was not making the analysis public, a DExEU source told BuzzFeed News: "Because it's embarrassing.”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

lol at clickbait URL

? (seandalai), Monday, 29 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

as a recent arrival in Harringey can I just say thank fuck for that

BREAKING: Claire Kober has gone. https://t.co/O57McITYRa

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) January 30, 2018

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

Haringey even!

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:00 (six years ago) link

Harringay the place, Haringey the name of the borough. For some reason. I looked it up once, it didn't help much.

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link

I should know this but it never seems to stick!

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link

Harringay is within Haringey but the council doesn’t seem able to spell the borough name consistently (Haringey vs Harringey’).

Good that Kober has gone but I’m not sure it will make much difference.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link

the least of the Council's problems I would suggest

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link

Apparently HDV is actually now dead, so that is a difference...

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

That’s great. I know the NEC had requested the council stop it but didn’t know they actually had.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

i think you'll find it was nasty Corbynista bullies who asked them to stop it

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

That is the nature of the hard left.

Great news if HDV has been stopped - the amount of concern trolling about privatising £2bn of public property from supposed Labour members was horrendous. “If this is how the party feels, I don’t want to be a member anymore.” Yeah, about that...

gyac, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:02 (six years ago) link

Bully = anyone effectively pursuing a political objective

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link

terrible spectre of Labour councils being compelled to not behave as if they're nothing to do with the national party

maybe these people should stand as independents if that's what they want

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

standing as an independent would require defining what they stand for tho and who's gonna be fucked to do that tbh

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

I like how these dorks have suddenly discovered that centralized parties are anti-democratic, can't wait to see what else they learn about going forward. who am I kidding, top table job at some national charity doling out soundbites for BBC Breakfast is what comes next

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

Samuel Smiles Socialism, they can work with that surely?

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

the absolute shitshow in commons right now has to be seen.

"I agree with the hon memb that these embarrassing forecasts should be completely ignored. After all, as he says other forecasts were wrong."

Q.

"Ah don't worry about Brexit's effect on your consistuency, these forecasts show growth!"

stet, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link

So David Davies 100% mislead a Parliamentary Select Committee at some point then? I mean given the range of his answers that's a no-brainer but these are the forecasts he said didn't exist, right?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

didn't he say something like "they aren't forecasts they're check thesaurus for synonym so when I said there were no forecasts I wasn't technically lying blimey that Darkest Hour's a great film what?"

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

not for the first time today on ilx i am moved to comment that nothing means anything anymore

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

these have been worked up since he said that i believe

there were others that did exist but not with this level of probity, or something

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

so these have been worked up but they could easily be wrong, like many other forecasts have been wrong

but these are distinguished from the ones we did previously, which were just straight-up very wrong

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

The killing of the HDV isn't a victory for Corbyn or Momentum.

It's a victory for ordinary residents and activists who organised a campaign on a fiver here, a tenner there, who crowdfunded and staged fundraising gigs.

Against all odds, against a political machine, they won.

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) January 30, 2018

mark s, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link

Momentum: neither ordinary nor activists

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

Well if they aren't affiliated to Momentum...

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link

lots of people now enjoying the security of not being shunted out of their homes isn't the main headline for some reason.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile in JR-M news...he’s asked about the company he has kept.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/squirming-tory-jacob-rees-mogg-11937361

Asked about the Mirror's story today, he told Sky News: "As it happened I asked central office before going to that dinner and at that point they knew nothing about the organisation.

"I made enquiries, I heard nothing about them.

"I deeply regret going to that dinner. It was a mistake. This fellow’s views are really disgusting and I have no association with them.

gyac, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

Yes, but that did Jacob Rees-Mogg have to say on the matter?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

Come on lads we've all been to Nazi dinner parties by accident, nothing to see here

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

so rees-mogg is saying

lad he’s saying

he’s saying he did not see that coming

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

wait fuck

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link

Aditya should be v proud of the part he played in this HDV thing.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

deffo, he's been on it from the start, fine combing those council documents for the weasel word bullshit they contained, constantly hammering them.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link


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