I HATE APPLE

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stuff used to crash all the damn time to the extent you’d have to reboot your computer!!

mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

half of the 90s was rebooting computers any time you tried to run anything more complex than lotus 1-2-3

mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

so big news today I thought about production being cut back on the iPhone X. I don't remember hearing anything similar about any older iPhone model this soon after its launch.

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

everyone’s a supply chain expert these days

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link

I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit

my macbook is that old, w/ somewhat newer but not up to date os and browser, and the browser hangs all the fuckin time. some other programs too, but browsers are the worse. really thwarts the use of force quitting, too, since it can take forever to even get the window up to confirm.

j., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link

ah the new web is the problem though, old web’d never leave ya hanging

*curses you with a 2004 javascript engine*

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link

oh word, I forgot that programs crashing in the bad old days took the whole system down with them more often than not.

Dan I., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link

No, I disagree. The last ipod classic was produced in 2014, that is just a little more than 3 years ago, that does not make it antique.

An enterprise which wants to build a strong link with the customers should care for support. It would be easy for them to change the battery pack but the thing is it is financially not interesting, that is why they do not do it, I suppose. And I have decided for myself that I am not going to support this company who does not care for my interests anymore, it is as easy as that.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:56 (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right, i see what you mean now

btw that new keyboard-randomiser bug has to go. i'm sick to death of ios throwing up some random fucking keyboard every time i switch apps.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link

e.g. i have the chinese zhuyin keyboard for when a taiwanese person wants to type something on my phone, but at least 50% of the time ios goes "oh btw here's that zhuyin keyboard you only use twice a month", not the english/pinyin keyboards i use literally all the god damned time

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link

yea it's Russian roulette whether i actually get Gboard or not

by which i mean, every so often my phone actually shoots a bullet into my head. questionable imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link

I've deleted the main English one, which maximises my chances of getting Gboard

Alba, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

i don’t trust google to not scrape all my typing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:36 (six years ago) link

which is a shame, because it looks like it would solve all my problems

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link

I'm loving SwiftKey, got it after it was mentioned in this thread

willem, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link

ios swiftkey still doesn’t do chinese, which is right out for me

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software-quality-extends-to-mac/

lol hasn't this been like the focus for the past 5 years? every year the theme seems to be 'this version of OSX has a lot of under the hood improvements' but i guess this year it'll be even more about 'under the hood improvements'

, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

they've half-assed it with the "we need to support new technology X or device Y and those aren't high-profile features but require a lot of internal rework to implement" so they've sold it as internal improvements

the big ones, which are more software features than optimization/intense testing, would be APFS and supporting security across devices imo

still kind of wacky that I can make a purchase on the web on macOS using Apple Pay and it detects my nearby phone and has me authenticate on that device

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

does windows have the feature of being able to change which language it's spell-checking/auto-correcting/suggestions within a single sentence, basically just as you type it?

like when I type c'est-à-dire it's like I ate a pizza hier, aujourd'hui et demain without mushrooms ou oignons.

that's the os x feature I love the most

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

i can't get my phone to do that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

the mac product line is abandonware, and the OS is getting there

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

macOS is mostly backported iOS stuff and I'm worried it's only there to support development/deployment of iOS apps tbh

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

xp yeah I'm not sure if my phone does that but my MBP certainly does & I would be loathe to give that up given my multi-lingual workflow

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

In my continual search for my next computer, I "upgraded" my 2014 15" MacBook Pro to a maxed out 2015 13", the fastest and possibly last MacBook Pro that Apple ever made.

— Gary Bernhardt (@garybernhardt) January 30, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

:/ it's such a dumb mistake why don't they take a minute and make a really nice new MBP

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

the main complaints about the modern ones are the touch bar and the strict adherence to usb-c over all else, right? and some keyboard complaints

actually that does sound bad when I list then like that

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

and that it's not a slam dunk hardware improvement over models many years older?

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

they'd like everyone to switch over to iDevices i think but MBP's are much more convenient for shit like work. idk wtf is wrong w/ them tbph. assuming nothing changes once the MBP i'm typing this on dies i'm almost certainly going back to PC.

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

all i want is a new mini. I'm hobbling here

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

my 8yo mac is still on low sierra because of all the recent press, and i've not replaced it because of how underwhelmed people have been with the new ones. what the fuck apple.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

Maybe a low end iMac?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

Or refurb

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

current plan is to wait until this dies and see what's going. if apple decides to build a good macbook, done. otherwise, yeah, refurb. don't think i could endure a desktop these days tbh.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

I want a good thunderbolt 3 enabled laptop so I can be a dumbass and try the external graphics card rig

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

what's the best non-Mac laptop atm?

, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

I think the Dell one with the tiny bezel?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

The Nintendo Switch

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

Lenovo's got great laptops. Been a mac user for aaaages, needed a Windows machine for work purposes but it's.. not as bad as I feared. It takes some time to redress Windows 10, strip away the annoying stuff (but at least it can still be done), and tbh it's been hella stable and fast on my Lenovo, I'm still amazed by it every day (got it last May).

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

yeah developers go for the dell XPS13 which is good apart from the webcam position

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

yeah i switched from a mbp to lenovo yoga a cpl months ago after prolly about 15 years of eschewing PCs, it has some quirks but nothing more than i was experiencing the last few years of mac ownership. still use macs for work and there's essentially no difference between the platforms anymore except that windows seems to get updated every now and again and has tons more features. i mostly use photoshop on the laptop and it's kind of unbelievable that there still (to my knowledge?) isn't a touchscreen mac laptop

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

I'm with Mordy though that I just do not follow Apple anymore; I can't figure out where they are going, what they're doing, and if it will be successful despite my many reservations (it probably will). They are starting to lose me.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

I stopped really caring about any sort of hardware junk a few years back and mostly care if the damn thing is functional and does all the crap I want, since most of the code I'm writing doesn't run anywhere near my own computer. I like a nice screen on my phone and stuff though.

this might be the year I'm way more into large kitchen appliances

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

you guys are gonna make me cry

j., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

My wife got the Surface Laptop, and it is pretty sweet.

DJI, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

I stopped really caring about any sort of hardware junk a few years back and mostly care if the damn thing is functional and does all the crap I want, since most of the code I'm writing doesn't run anywhere near my own computer. I like a nice screen on my phone and stuff though.

I think I crossed over into this realm a few years back. All of this hardware, no matter how much propaganda you throw at it, is basically just office supplies now. I'm more interested in $100 disposable laptops running QubesOS than I am by whatever form of the ubiquitous 15" MBP barge I've been towing around since 2004.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link

/I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit/

my macbook is that old, w/ somewhat newer but not up to date os and browser, and the browser hangs all the fuckin time. some other programs too, but browsers are the worse. really thwarts the use of force quitting, too, since it can take forever to even get the window up to confirm.


Have you swapped out the HD for an ssd yet? I had similar stuff going on with my 10yo mbp to what you report. Installing an ssd was like having a new computer all over again.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 06:27 (six years ago) link

I'm with Mordy though that I just do not follow Apple anymore; I can't figure out where they are going, what they're doing, and if it will be successful despite my many reservations (it probably will). They are starting to lose me.

― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not sure if it's just me getting older or the inevitable end of an era or actually related to some kind of gradual post-Jobs deterioration, but I definitely feel this too. Apple is losing that sense of being on some other plane of corporations and sliding back toward just being another phone and computer maker. Their product line makes no sense anymore, their decisions make no sense, they haven't presented a game-changing concept in a long time and seem to mostly follow and improve on (questionably at that) rather than lead.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

you can pay with your face now

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

plus you've got the singing poop so

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

their products used to make life better p much but are now arguably making life (both individual and civic) worse. gotta be giving them corporate cognitive dissonance, which can only be relieved by extracting all possible money available in the global economy and then doing nothing with it

stet, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

tbh absolutely no companies make devices that make any sense to me as far as computers go

mh, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link


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