I HATE APPLE

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yea it's Russian roulette whether i actually get Gboard or not

by which i mean, every so often my phone actually shoots a bullet into my head. questionable imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link

I've deleted the main English one, which maximises my chances of getting Gboard

Alba, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link

i don’t trust google to not scrape all my typing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:36 (six years ago) link

which is a shame, because it looks like it would solve all my problems

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link

I'm loving SwiftKey, got it after it was mentioned in this thread

willem, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link

ios swiftkey still doesn’t do chinese, which is right out for me

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software-quality-extends-to-mac/

lol hasn't this been like the focus for the past 5 years? every year the theme seems to be 'this version of OSX has a lot of under the hood improvements' but i guess this year it'll be even more about 'under the hood improvements'

龜, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

they've half-assed it with the "we need to support new technology X or device Y and those aren't high-profile features but require a lot of internal rework to implement" so they've sold it as internal improvements

the big ones, which are more software features than optimization/intense testing, would be APFS and supporting security across devices imo

still kind of wacky that I can make a purchase on the web on macOS using Apple Pay and it detects my nearby phone and has me authenticate on that device

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

does windows have the feature of being able to change which language it's spell-checking/auto-correcting/suggestions within a single sentence, basically just as you type it?

like when I type c'est-Γ -dire it's like I ate a pizza hier, aujourd'hui et demain without mushrooms ou oignons.

that's the os x feature I love the most

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

i can't get my phone to do that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

the mac product line is abandonware, and the OS is getting there

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

macOS is mostly backported iOS stuff and I'm worried it's only there to support development/deployment of iOS apps tbh

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

xp yeah I'm not sure if my phone does that but my MBP certainly does & I would be loathe to give that up given my multi-lingual workflow

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

In my continual search for my next computer, I "upgraded" my 2014 15" MacBook Pro to a maxed out 2015 13", the fastest and possibly last MacBook Pro that Apple ever made.

— Gary Bernhardt (@garybernhardt) January 30, 2018

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

:/ it's such a dumb mistake why don't they take a minute and make a really nice new MBP

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

the main complaints about the modern ones are the touch bar and the strict adherence to usb-c over all else, right? and some keyboard complaints

actually that does sound bad when I list then like that

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

and that it's not a slam dunk hardware improvement over models many years older?

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

they'd like everyone to switch over to iDevices i think but MBP's are much more convenient for shit like work. idk wtf is wrong w/ them tbph. assuming nothing changes once the MBP i'm typing this on dies i'm almost certainly going back to PC.

Mordy, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:35 (six years ago) link

all i want is a new mini. I'm hobbling here

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

my 8yo mac is still on low sierra because of all the recent press, and i've not replaced it because of how underwhelmed people have been with the new ones. what the fuck apple.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

Maybe a low end iMac?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

Or refurb

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

current plan is to wait until this dies and see what's going. if apple decides to build a good macbook, done. otherwise, yeah, refurb. don't think i could endure a desktop these days tbh.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

I want a good thunderbolt 3 enabled laptop so I can be a dumbass and try the external graphics card rig

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

what's the best non-Mac laptop atm?

龜, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link

I think the Dell one with the tiny bezel?

calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

The Nintendo Switch

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

Lenovo's got great laptops. Been a mac user for aaaages, needed a Windows machine for work purposes but it's.. not as bad as I feared. It takes some time to redress Windows 10, strip away the annoying stuff (but at least it can still be done), and tbh it's been hella stable and fast on my Lenovo, I'm still amazed by it every day (got it last May).

β™« very clever with maracas.jpg β™« (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

yeah developers go for the dell XPS13 which is good apart from the webcam position

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

yeah i switched from a mbp to lenovo yoga a cpl months ago after prolly about 15 years of eschewing PCs, it has some quirks but nothing more than i was experiencing the last few years of mac ownership. still use macs for work and there's essentially no difference between the platforms anymore except that windows seems to get updated every now and again and has tons more features. i mostly use photoshop on the laptop and it's kind of unbelievable that there still (to my knowledge?) isn't a touchscreen mac laptop

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

I'm with Mordy though that I just do not follow Apple anymore; I can't figure out where they are going, what they're doing, and if it will be successful despite my many reservations (it probably will). They are starting to lose me.

β™« very clever with maracas.jpg β™« (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

I stopped really caring about any sort of hardware junk a few years back and mostly care if the damn thing is functional and does all the crap I want, since most of the code I'm writing doesn't run anywhere near my own computer. I like a nice screen on my phone and stuff though.

this might be the year I'm way more into large kitchen appliances

mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

you guys are gonna make me cry

j., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

My wife got the Surface Laptop, and it is pretty sweet.

DJI, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

I stopped really caring about any sort of hardware junk a few years back and mostly care if the damn thing is functional and does all the crap I want, since most of the code I'm writing doesn't run anywhere near my own computer. I like a nice screen on my phone and stuff though.

I think I crossed over into this realm a few years back. All of this hardware, no matter how much propaganda you throw at it, is basically just office supplies now. I'm more interested in $100 disposable laptops running QubesOS than I am by whatever form of the ubiquitous 15" MBP barge I've been towing around since 2004.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link

/I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit/

my macbook is that old, w/ somewhat newer but not up to date os and browser, and the browser hangs all the fuckin time. some other programs too, but browsers are the worse. really thwarts the use of force quitting, too, since it can take forever to even get the window up to confirm.


Have you swapped out the HD for an ssd yet? I had similar stuff going on with my 10yo mbp to what you report. Installing an ssd was like having a new computer all over again.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 06:27 (six years ago) link

I'm with Mordy though that I just do not follow Apple anymore; I can't figure out where they are going, what they're doing, and if it will be successful despite my many reservations (it probably will). They are starting to lose me.

― β™« very clever with maracas.jpg β™« (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not sure if it's just me getting older or the inevitable end of an era or actually related to some kind of gradual post-Jobs deterioration, but I definitely feel this too. Apple is losing that sense of being on some other plane of corporations and sliding back toward just being another phone and computer maker. Their product line makes no sense anymore, their decisions make no sense, they haven't presented a game-changing concept in a long time and seem to mostly follow and improve on (questionably at that) rather than lead.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

you can pay with your face now

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

plus you've got the singing poop so

frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

their products used to make life better p much but are now arguably making life (both individual and civic) worse. gotta be giving them corporate cognitive dissonance, which can only be relieved by extracting all possible money available in the global economy and then doing nothing with it

stet, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

tbh absolutely no companies make devices that make any sense to me as far as computers go

mh, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Apple basically ruined the PC market by making the iPhone, literally an earth-changing hit. Mac laptops were "fun" for years, but compared to the iPhone they are "work" and effectively a niche product without a future outside of the "enterprise". Apple is still doing great engineering work with the iPhone (mainly with the SoC design) that could translate into devices that people want and don't make life worse (cf. stet above), I still might want an ARM macbook if it's extremely thin and runs for 12 hours.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

computers are weird now and I'm old

mh, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

I've been doing computers since age like 4 or something and I'm basically over it

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

"what's a computer?"

koogs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

apple hit the law of diminishing returns and thought they could overcome it! can't make anything else thin anymore so they made the keyboard thin and bad. i think it's an encouraging sign they pulled back from 'thinnest ever' with the new iphone and instead gave that space to battery. i don't know where they can walk the macbook pro back to except by returning to the old keyboard and putting in usb 3 slots. maybe OLED screen? processor performance has plateau'd innit, my two regular use computers are both coming on 4 years old and both still run starcraft great.

龜, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

who is the apple of the now, now that apple isn't the apple of the now?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

10 years ago to the month:
https://www.macworld.com/article/1054770/tech-events-dupe/applename.html

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

ugh I just want a machine that doesn't suck to use, I hate having to use windows machines on the rare occasions I have to. I think I just love the way the fonts render in os x? I've been a mbp user since 2001, and every day of work on it is a joy. I'm just a writer, almost entirely in latex, so it's nothing heavy---oh, and I work with a LOT of pdfs. and I work in multiple languages. all of this is a joy, and on windows it's sucked (I haven't used the latest windows as much but it's on my daughter's laptop so I've experienced it). I don't know if linux would be ok: I hate hacking, and I want beautiful font rendering. and it's not just retina: even my 2001 mbp was beautiful to look while writing.

ugh.

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

has anybody tried a dell xps?

the late great, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link


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